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Old 08-17-2005, 10:40 PM
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I know! I mean, damn, why are VIPs finally getting a practical use of their subscription plan!?

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.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .... I mean why a month
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:47 PM
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(pointless line of periods) I mean why a month
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:50 PM
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I mean why a month
Well, to that respect, it's safe to say it's not completed to Stefan's (and the other developers') expectations, no?
Common sense 4tehwin? =]
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:16 PM
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Well, to that respect, it's safe to say it's not completed to Stefan's (and the other developers') expectations, no?
Common sense 4tehwin? =]
OK i get the point u all hate me.......what i mean is if it is being released so soon for them why not make it like just 3 weeks for all others
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:18 PM
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OK i get the point u all hate me.......what i mean is if it is being released so soon for them why not make it like just 3 weeks for all others
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Is that clear for you now?

If you want it in two weeks go get a VIP upgrade. Otherwise you have to wait another two weeks on top of that.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:20 PM
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Is that clear for you now?
IM NOT SAYING IT'S UNFAIR IM JUST SAYING IF IT'S READY SO SOON WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT RELEASE FOR THE PUBLIC AND IF U'LL EXCUSE ME IM GUNNA GO CHECK THE COST FOR UPGRADING TO VIP!!!!!!TY VERY MUCH FOR BEING A SMART ASS HAUNTER!!!!
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:23 PM
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IM NOT SAYING IT'S UNFAIR IM JUST SAYING IF IT'S READY SO SOON WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT RELEASE FOR THE PUBLIC
Calm down...

They're doing that because if they released it to the public at the same time as they released it to VIP, VIP upgrades would be useless. I want my $25 worth of pre-releases, thank you.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:37 PM
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[QUOTE=haunter]Calm down...

They're doing that because if they released it to the public at the same time as they released it to VIP, VIP upgrades would be useless. I want my $25 worth of pre-releases, thank you.[/QUo
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:04 AM
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Calm down...

They're doing that because if they released it to the public at the same time as they released it to VIP, VIP upgrades would be useless. I want my $25 worth of pre-releases, thank you.[/QUo
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nice way 2 quote lol....and v4 is horrible and all it has is useless additions
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:54 AM
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and v4 is horrible and all it has is useless additions
nice way 2 b ignorant lol....


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IM NOT SAYING IT'S UNFAIR IM JUST SAYING IF IT'S READY SO SOON WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT RELEASE FOR THE PUBLIC AND IF U'LL EXCUSE ME IM GUNNA GO CHECK THE COST FOR UPGRADING TO VIP!!!!!!TY VERY MUCH FOR BEING A SMART ASS HAUNTER!!!!
It's not ready, there are bugs being found that need fixing so that when released the wider community to not suffer them. And, in addition, things such as text updates for the website haven't been completed.
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:30 PM
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nice way 2 quote lol....and v4 is horrible and all it has is useless additions
Do you happen to have V4?
Do you know the significance of V4?

Remember all those ideas you guys keep having about things not looking good or making huge additions where everyone complains "lol 2 lagy 4 me". With V4, that's a THING OF THE PAST.

I'm sure none of you know what computer languages are, but I'll say this anyway. V4 is programmed in C++ which enabled graal to be virtually 10x less laggy. V2 and V3 (I think V3) were programmed in Delphi, which was not powerful enough to support all of these things.

Thanks to V4, you will see playerworlds grow bigger and better. Of course, you wouldn't know that because Zone is your whole graal life.
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:48 PM
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Thanks to V4, you will see playerworlds grow bigger and better. Of course, you wouldn't know that because Zone is your whole _____ life.
Based on what happened the last time the Graal Servers went down for a few hours I think it's safe to say that we can remove the word "graal" from that last sentence...
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:08 PM
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Based on what happened the last time the Graal Servers went down for a few hours I think it's safe to say that we can remove the word "graal" from that last sentence...
ya graal is really my whole life...i play it for like an hour a week but its really my whole life. Guys just cause u r nerds who spend their life on the computer doesnt mean i do
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:26 PM
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Lmao @ Playing it an hour a week.

You're terrible at lieing. :[
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:57 AM
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Lmao @ Playing it an hour a week.

You're terrible at lieing. :[
ok...ask ne....ask them how long i played this week...go ahead do it.. its no more than 2 hr

neway u cant say "ppl say ur good so u must play alot" cause ace plays problly 4 30 min a week and hes still best
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:38 AM
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I probably haven't played Zone in three weeks. Owned.
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:35 AM
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I probably haven't played Zone in three weeks. Owned.
how is that owned???? I havent played in 2 weeks,beside today which i played for 20 minutes. So dont say "owned" like a little kid.Now plz stop posting things on this thread that will shift the topic.
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Old 08-30-2005, 09:50 AM
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how is that owned???? I havent played in 2 weeks,beside today which i played for 20 minutes. So dont say "owned" like a little kid.Now plz stop posting things on this thread that will shift the topic.
You don't have a right to call somebody a little kid seeing as you are doing exactly what they are doing and continuing to flame. So both of you stop and cease staining these threads.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:48 PM
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V4 is programmed in C++ which enabled graal to be virtually 10x less laggy.
Because programming language makes up about 90% of any program's network latency (and, hell, even performance because I know you have no clue what lag is), and because Stefan totally ditched Delphi for v4.
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Old 08-30-2005, 09:15 PM
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I hope you're being sarcastic. :[
You hope who is being sarcastic?
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Old 08-30-2005, 11:16 PM
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You hope who is being sarcastic?
That guy said I know nothing about lag.
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That guy said I know nothing about lag.
rofl.....thiers 2 things wrong with that

1.ur a genious
2.every1 knows what lag is
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Old 08-31-2005, 04:32 AM
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2.every1 knows what lag is
Explain to me the technicalities of lag.
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Old 08-31-2005, 04:50 AM
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I hope you're being sarcastic. :[
I shall help you out! The stuff inside the parentheses was Not Sarcasm.
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Old 08-31-2005, 05:23 AM
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Explain to me the technicalities of lag.
Basically lag is a bug sorta that lags the game so ur guy moves slow/and or freezes.Thats what basic lag is. (im not saying every1 knows the technical stuff)
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Basically lag is a bug sorta that lags the game so ur guy moves slow/and or freezes.Thats what basic lag is. (im not saying every1 knows the technical stuff)
You just used the word "lag" to describe lag. You suck.

You said everybody knows what lag is... not what lag does. There's no such thing as basic lag, or complex lag... It's just lag.

You have no idea what lag is.
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Old 08-31-2005, 07:43 AM
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You just used the word "lag" to describe lag. You suck.

You said everybody knows what lag is... not what lag does. There's no such thing as basic lag, or complex lag... It's just lag.

You have no idea what lag is.
Lag= Sumthing that slows your character. Their ya happy now???
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:33 PM
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Lemme have a go. Lag is an interruption inbetween the connetion of the network system you are playing from to your home computer. This interruption stalls the connection for a certain time period. Thus causing lag. This "lag" is usually on online games, such as Graal, so when lag happens someone walks past you then lag attacks and that person is gone. Overall, lag is a basic connection interruption which leaves you immobile for a period of time.
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:28 PM
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Lemme have a go. Lag is an interruption inbetween the connetion of the network system you are playing from to your home computer. This interruption stalls the connection for a certain time period. Thus causing lag. This "lag" is usually on online games, such as Graal, so when lag happens someone walks past you then lag attacks and that person is gone. Overall, lag is a basic connection interruption which leaves you immobile for a period of time.
Freaky. Did you get that from like a dictionary or sumtin?
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Lemme have a go. Lag is an interruption inbetween the connetion of the network system you are playing from to your home computer. This interruption stalls the connection for a certain time period. Thus causing lag. This "lag" is usually on online games, such as Graal, so when lag happens someone walks past you then lag attacks and that person is gone. Overall, lag is a basic connection interruption which leaves you immobile for a period of time.
wow....ummm ya what he said
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Freaky. Did you get that from like a dictionary or sumtin?
No. Why?
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Old 08-31-2005, 08:41 PM
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No. Why?
Because it's an insanly tripped out definition dude!
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Freaky. Did you get that from like a dictionary or sumtin?
That would be a pretty dumb dictionary.
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That would be a pretty dumb dictionary.
Nah.What darksoul said is exactly what lag is.
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No, it's not. Lag in terms of the Internet is normally a high latency in packet delivery. Similar symptoms also occur if packets are frequently lost, which can happen with the UDP protocol, despite it being 'faster'.
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I understand that much. I just don't understand could make packets just... float off. :[
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No, it's not. Lag in terms of the Internet is normally a high latency in packet delivery. Similar symptoms also occur if packets are frequently lost, which can happen with the UDP protocol, despite it being 'faster'.
I trust that definition.
Lag is just another technical term that has lost it's meaning among gamers through overusage. The Game freezes? "ZOMG LAG!" When it could actually be your processor having to much to, well, process at one time. That will essentially crash your computer.
And, from what I understand, "Latency" has something to do with connection between the client PC and the server. (High latency=Bad, Low latecy is good)
The quoted definition is the actual definition.
EDIT:And could a virus/program glitch make packets be lost?

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DAMMIT IM CHEKIN THE DEFINITION UP 1 SEC.................................
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Ok here's the dictionary meaning *ahem*
hang (back) or fall (behind) in movement, progress, development, etc.
imprison: lock up or confine, in or as in a jail; "The suspects were imprisoned without trial"; "the murderer was incarcerated for the rest of his life"
slowdown: the act of slowing down or falling behind
interim: the time between one event, process, or period and another
throw or pitch at a mark, as with coins
stave: one of several thin slats of wood forming the sides of a barrel or bucket
cover with lagging to prevent heat loss; "lag pipes"
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Lag often refers to delays experienced in computing communications, however it may also apply to written or other forms of communication.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag

The amount of time between making an online request or command and receiving a response. Until lag time becomes no time at all the internet will not be consumer-friendly, and its profit potential will remain limited.
www.lazworld.com/glossary.htm

A time delay between the output of a signal and the response of the instrument to which the signal is sent. (2) A time relationship between two waveforms where a fixed reference point on one wave occurs after the same point of the reference wave.
www.weedinstrument.com/info_central/l.html

an imaging study that can detect cancer cells or abnormalities in the lymphatic system and structures. It involves a dye being injected to the lymph system.
montekids.org/healthlibrary/peds/oncology/glossary.htm

The measure of the time between the center of mass of precipitation to the center of mass of runoff (on the hydrograph). Basin lag is a function of not only basin characteristics, but also of storm intensity and movement. Some hydrologic texts define lag from the center of mass of rainfall to the hydrograph peak. lag (time)
www.srh.noaa.gov/wgrfc/resources/glossary/l.html

Lowest Adjacent Grade (to a structure)
www.fema.gov/fhm/fq_term.shtm

the horizontal distance between two geographic data points. Used to create a semi-variogram.
www.bae.uky.edu/~precag/PrecisionAg/PAterms.htm

the time delay between the start or finish of an activity and the start or finish of its successor(s).
www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/30/pt300048.htm

Crosspieces used to connect the ribs in centering.
pghbridges.com/termsBrg.htm

The number of data points that a filer, such as a moving average, follows or trails the input price data.
www.trade10.com/Options_glossary.html

a user-specified distance class within which semivariance is computed for a set of data points.
http://www.forestry.umt.edu/academic...s_glossary.htm

coarse gravel material remaining behind when finer material has been eroded away
www.newmont.com/en/gold/glossary/index.asp

Delay in response.
www.100megsfree4.com/dictionary/car-dicl.htm

An interval of time before additional flow enters the system.
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In continuous nuclear logging techniques, radioactivity measurements are made over a period of time in order to average statistical variations. During the statistical averaging period (time constant), the detector is continually moved while surveying. The distance the detector moves during one time constant is commonly called the amount of lag. See dynamic measure point.
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1. That part of the difference between the output of an instrument and its input that is due to the failure of the instrument to respond instantaneously to variations of the input signal. It is a function of the instrument's time constant. See time lag. 2. A time displacement of a time series. See autocorrelation. 3. See delay.
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A coarse-grained residue left behind after finer particles have been transported away, due to the inability of the transporting medium to move the coarser particles.
http://www.ozestuaries.org/oracle/oz...m_glossary.htm

As used in the play of marble games, specific to the game of Ringer (see) the means used to determine which player goes first.
akronmarbles.com/glossary_of_marble_related_terms.htm

the momentary time of contact of the printing screen to the substrate immediately after the printing stroke.
www.sgia.org/glossary/Ll.cfm

(also "lag putt, approach putt") a putt that is intended to stop close to the hole but not presumed to be holed Example: I was just lagging the putt, actually; I never thought it would go in.
www.pgaprofessional.com/glossary/l.html

phase The stage of growth of microbial cells in which nucleic acids and proteins are synthesized, but in which there is no cell division.
http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/sc...b14_gloss.html

Lag is a term indicating the latency of a connection, mainly to the bad. More lag indicates a longer time for your game to communicate with the game server, and thus a higher amount of lag indicates slower responses.
www.thehaus.net/dict.shtml

Lag distance is a distance (h) within which any two samples (a pair) is taken for variogram calculation. Lag tolerance ( ) is assigned to the lag for setting a search interval for pairs: ± . So the pairs are searched within h ± distance. Often, default lag tolerance is set to half lag distance ( =h/2). See 7.1 Variogram calculation parameters.
http://www.ibrae.ac.ru/~mkanev/eng/g.../Glossary.html

Retention that occurs in a video image when rapid motion of the camera or viewed object leaves a trail.
www.cameras-cctv.com/glossary/h-o/

a veneer or pavement of fragments of diverse origins or composition on the land surface. Commonly applied to highly ferruginous concretions (in S. Aust. also applied to silcrete gibber). Fragments may be faceted, rounded and/or varnished.
http://www.pir.sa.gov.au/pages/miner...D=824&tempID=7

The usual delay between the actual time a service is rendered or an item is supplied and the time it is paid for and recorded. Lag includes both claims that have not yet been submitted and claims that have been submitted but not yet paid. Lag is the result of administrative efficiency of the provider, the employer (if employer involvement is required in supplying claim forms or verifying eligibility), the employee, and the claim administrator. Human procrastination is a major factor in lag.
www.allianceu.com/glossary.htm
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