Say what, Lance?

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by konidias

Because in a realistic situation, it would be difficult and/or time consuming to watch and judge both players and test their roleplaying abilities. Something the manager would not have time to do. Something the Kingdoms Admin would not rank as a major priority.

If the Kingdom Admin or Manager is removing kings because someone claims the king is showing favoritism, you're going to run out of kings pretty fast.

Trust me - proving if a person can roleplay properly or not takes about three seconds.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Trust me - proving if a person can roleplay properly or not takes about three seconds.

Why are there so many bad roleplayers in GK? There are human kings there, and it's absolutely atrocious. Having human kings doesn't seem to influence roleplaying suckiness.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by protagonist

Why are there so many bad roleplayers in GK? There are human kings there, and it's absolutely atrocious. Having human kings doesn't seem to influence roleplaying suckiness.

No Kingdoms Admin - which 2k1 has a very good one at that.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

No Kingdoms Admin - which 2k1 has a very good one at that.

How is a Kingdoms Admin going to know every little problem that goes on? I don't see how a Kingdoms Admin is going to fix bad roleplaying when the majority of the players don't roleplay well, or don't care to.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by protagonist

How is a Kingdoms Admin going to know every little problem that goes on? I don't see how a Kingdoms Admin is going to fix bad roleplaying when the majority of the players don't roleplay well, or don't care to.

The majority of players on 2k1 have always roleplayed...

And it's not like it would be a single person going "OH WELL LETS SEE WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY"...

Gryffon will be accepting complaints and whatnot if something happens or if something is going wrong... stuff like that. In which he invesitages.

Going by your logic free thought should be illigal because the police cant monitor a person's actions every day. And if they have Free Thought then they can break the laws.

[Nightmareangel]

I have a question. Which server will have the best economy? Which has the most collectable stuff planned (ie. hats/dolls/bomies/etc.)? Granted I didn't play the original 2k1 for that long (around half a year back in 2002) but I do remember loving the economy. I never really got into the roleplaying aspect of the server (was a no name guy in Zormite for a little while). The economy is what always had me hooked...well that and Counterstrike har har. Whichever one has the best economy is most likely the one I'd like to play the most (or whichever one I can get my Gray Krakken bomy back on anyway...har).

[konidias]

Originally Posted by Nightmareangel

I have a question. Which server will have the best economy? Which has the most collectable stuff planned (ie. hats/dolls/bomies/etc.)? Granted I didn't play the original 2k1 for that long (around half a year back in 2002) but I do remember loving the economy. I never really got into the roleplaying aspect of the server (was a no name guy in Zormite for a little while). The economy is what always had me hooked...well that and Counterstrike har har. Whichever one has the best economy is most likely the one I'd like to play the most (or whichever one I can get my Gray Krakken bomy back on anyway...har).

Well, judging by the fact that all the clothing and accessories the player wears on my server are going to be items... I'd have to say my server would have more stuff to collect. Unless Lance has a custom clothing system planned. More stuff to collect doesn't mean a better economy though... However, the economy and roleplaying are my biggest priorities.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

The majority of players on 2k1 have always roleplayed...

This does not assure us that the majority of players on the revisions will roleplay. I mean, a lot of them are on GK and not roleplaying.

Instead of knocking NPC Kings, how about you tell us why player kings are better? If the Kingdoms Admin is handling disputes and bad roleplayers and whatnot, what use is the player king?

[Googi]

Originally Posted by protagonist

How is a Kingdoms Admin going to know every little problem that goes on? I don't see how a Kingdoms Admin is going to fix bad roleplaying when the majority of the players don't roleplay well, or don't care to.

Yeah, I guess you'll have to count on an NPC to catch the bad RPers

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Going by your logic free thought should be illigal because the police cant monitor a person's actions every day. And if they have Free Thought then they can break the laws.

No, going by my logic, using a calculator is more effective than asking the guy next door. To further the analogy:
Calculators do not understand imaginary numbers. Therefore, you use them, as you would use an NPC king, to the point in which they become useless. You then rely on human intervention to finish the problem. The primary tool you use is the calculator, or NPC king, but you do have the human to deal with what the calculator can't understand (e.g the Kingdom Admin deals with what isn't regulated by the NPC king). At the very least, much bad language could be filtered by such an NPC king if certain things were scripted into the toguild or whatnot, as it doesn't require judgement whatsoever. Also, quests could be assigned through the NPC king and integrated with him, instead of relying on human kings to gain the wealth/items needed to host an event which will probably consist of trivia.

Originally Posted by Googi

Yeah, I guess you'll have to count on an NPC to catch the bad RPers

No, have a Kingdom Admin by all means. However, it will be the Kingdom Admin's responsibility to catch bad roleplaying, not at all the King's responsibility. It should be easy as 1, 2, 3 to join a kingdom (if you are p2p anyway) but also easy to get banned from a kingdom (by the Kingdom Admin).
I think human kings will just try to cover bad roleplayers' tracks for the sake of having a bigger kingdom. Numbers are considered quite desirable, if you haven't noticed.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by protagonist

No, have a Kingdom Admin by all means. However, it will be the Kingdom Admin's responsibility to catch bad roleplaying, not at all the King's responsibility. It should be easy as 1, 2, 3 to join a kingdom (if you are p2p anyway) but also easy to get banned from a kingdom (by the Kingdom Admin).
I think human kings will just try to cover bad roleplayers' tracks for the sake of having a bigger kingdom. Numbers are considered quite desirable, if you haven't noticed.

To Explain the Checks and Balances:

The Manager is the ultimate authority on a server (not bringing Steffy or Unix into the equation, we all know they trump all others), and on 2k1 Prime, Lance has final authority on all matters. Given the fact that Lance has expressed wishes to join a Kingdom as a citizen, and to allow for a specialist, he has appointed....

Kingdoms Administrator- My job is to ensure that the Kings are doing their jobs, that large events are approved and developed, and generally that Roleplaying dosen't infringe upon the Canon, rules, or the non-Rping sectors of the server.

The Kings are responsible for each and everyone of their members, and will be held accountable for their kingdoms as a whole. Should the kingdom's activity or quality slip, or if the King is found guilt of corruption/nepitism, they will be warned, or if the actions were warranting, will be removed.

I'm not here to do the King's jobs for them. I'm here to make sure they do them. If 2k2 had a Kingdoms Administrator, they would have not only been able to enforce the fact that Drow do not exsist in the in-house Graal continuity (by order of Vermain), they would have had no shortages of complaints with which they could remove the Drow from power: metagaming in the sense of allowing Etien to enter the kingdom by nepitism and powergaming in their ability to summon
the freaking Cthullu, amoung other charges.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by protagonist

No, have a Kingdom Admin by all means. However, it will be the Kingdom Admin's responsibility to catch bad roleplaying, not at all the King's responsibility. It should be easy as 1, 2, 3 to join a kingdom (if you are p2p anyway) but also easy to get banned from a kingdom (by the Kingdom Admin).
I think human kings will just try to cover bad roleplayers' tracks for the sake of having a bigger kingdom. Numbers are considered quite desirable, if you haven't noticed.

If the leader is bad, then they can be removed. Kingdom leaders take care of bad RPers. The Kingdom Admin and/or manager take care of bad kingdom leaders.