Phoenix Crew

[Cheops]

I would like to thank the Governor for promoting me to Captain. I'll serve to the best of my abilities.

Now looking for crew members for the Phoenix Co. of CP. For more information, please see the site below. More information on trainee trials will be posted in the next day or two. Please PM me (in-game or on the forums) if you're interested.

After a long period of the inactivity of crews on CP, the tradition is being revived and we will make the best of it.

http://www.freewebs.com/phoenixcp

[Cheops]

The trials have been finalized and "applications" are now being accepted.
The site has been updated with the full info, please PM me (forum or in-game) if you wish to set up a trial in the coming days. Read the site carefully.

http://www.freewebs.com/phoenixcp

[Cruchot]

Congratulation Cheops ! you deserved it !


Commander Yannick Steele of the Crescent Pirates

[Nappa]

your site is nub, sir.

[Butz]

Originally Posted by Nappa

your site is nub, sir.

Mystery Meat Navigation!

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by Nappa

your site is nub, sir.

Originally Posted by Butz

Mystery Meat Navigation!

so sorry you two couldn't figure out how to navigate a site with four menu options---especially one not meant for you, which means you went out of your way to view it

*plays the world's smallest violin for you*

[Butz]

Originally Posted by Cheops

so sorry you two couldn't figure out how to navigate a site with four menu options---especially one not meant for you, which means you went out of your way to view it

*plays the world's smallest violin for you*

You posted your website in a public forum, expect critique if it's not decent.

Also. If it's confusing, it's confusing. People should be able to go to a website and know what to do, not have to sit there and figure out what obscure symbols mean.

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by Butz

You posted your website in a public forum, expect critique if it's not decent.

Also. If it's confusing, it's confusing. People should be able to go to a website and know what to do, not have to sit there and figure out what obscure symbols mean.

Neither of your "critiques" were constructive. And again, I feel sorry for you if you found navigating to be an adventure in deciphering "obscure symbols." I should add that to the list of requirements to join: "must be able to find the information on how join by figuring out the obscure symbols on this site."

Anyway, thanks for the input, but I don't think I'll be changing anything about it.

[Butz]

Originally Posted by Cheops

Neither of your "critiques" were constructive. And again, I feel sorry for you if you found navigating to be an adventure in deciphering "obscure symbols." I should add that to the list of requirements to join: "must be able to find the information on how join by figuring out the obscure symbols on this site."

Anyway, thanks for the input, but I don't think I'll be changing anything about it.

A more constructive critique then.

You are creating a page that is to be used for people looking for info about the application. When creating a page for others, ease of use should be the first thing addressed.

These are the two major problems I have with how it's set up.

Mystery Meat Navigation - It means that though you have navigation on your site, there is no indication that it is indeed navigation, nor where it goes to. Those pictures along the bottom could just as easily be mistaken for a footer.

Page Downed - I'm running at 1024x768 as my resolution. When I get to your page, all I see is a big image. To get to what is actually important about that page, I have to scroll down. This is bad.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just think that it could use a little work.

[Draenin]

What the heck? It's just Blood Raiders, except with lower requirements.

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by Draenin

What the heck? It's just Blood Raiders, except with lower requirements.

Point 1: Blood Raiders require you to be at least lvl 20 overall and in b-mode. The Phoenix Co. is lvl 20 in ONE OF THE THREE damage classes and b-mode AND you have to prove yourself in ship combat. So, yeah... that pretty much makes it MORE selective and with HIGHER reqs. You ever fought me one on one and gotten my ship down to 20% consitution? Not many people can. I challenge you, in fact I DARE you to try.

Point 2: Blood Raiders haven't been selective since Becan quit (and now, besides Becan, who is inactive, there is only one other member). They are now a position you can rank up to---one that YOU ranked up to in fact before you were demoted (sorry about that).

Point 3: Blood Raiders focused more on covert tactics and terrorism. The Phoenix Co. focuses on naval power---the only novel idea I borrowed was having a den for the crew.

Originally Posted by Butz

A more constructive critique then.

You are creating a page that is to be used for people looking for info about the application. When creating a page for others, ease of use should be the first thing addressed.

These are the two major problems I have with how it's set up.

Mystery Meat Navigation - It means that though you have navigation on your site, there is no indication that it is indeed navigation, nor where it goes to. Those pictures along the bottom could just as easily be mistaken for a footer.

Page Downed - I'm running at 1024x768 as my resolution. When I get to your page, all I see is a big image. To get to what is actually important about that page, I have to scroll down. This is bad.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just think that it could use a little work.

Mystery Meat is on the menu permanently, sorry but it's a personal stylistic issue. But I am concerned about the resolution issue. I'm on 1280 x 854 and it looks just right, but at your resolution it *is* a tad big---I'll work on fixing it since the majority of people do view pages at that resolution nowadays. Thank you for that last post, that really should have been your first post instead of the three word exclamation you first posted.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by Cheops

I challenge you, in fact I DARE you to try.

Don't be surprised when it happens.

Originally Posted by Cheops

They are now a position you can rank up to---one that YOU ranked up to in fact before you were demoted (sorry about that).

I was demoted because of inactivity on there. (Doing more RP Team stuff than CP stuff.) And, I was given that position again before I quit CP. Might wanna check the facts as to why a person got demoted rather than just looking at the fact that they did.

Originally Posted by Cheops

Blood Raiders focused more on covert tactics and terrorism.

Since when was raiding a town via naval forces considered to be the equivalent of stuffing a pipe bomb into your neighbor's mailbox or sending them an envelope full of deadly white powder? It's not like they didn't know it was going to happen.

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by Draenin

Don't be surprised when it happens.

Let's make it a date, then. When are you free?

Originally Posted by Draenin

I was demoted because of inactivity on there. (Doing more RP Team stuff than CP stuff.) And, I was given that position again before I quit CP. Might wanna check the facts as to why a person got demoted rather than just looking at the fact that they did.

Knew that, notice I didn't say the reason why you quit, just wanted to force you to admit you were inactive. Remember this?

Originally Posted by Draenin

And don't say that I don't participate in events, Cheops. Alan knows for a fact that I do.

Yet you just said, you were inactive enough that Alan decided to demote you. Anyway that settles that.

Originally Posted by Draenin

Since when was raiding a town via naval forces considered to be the equivalent of stuffing a pipe bomb into your neighbor's mailbox or sending them an envelope full of deadly white powder? It's not like they didn't know it was going to happen.

You mean RP-wise or through GM. In RP terms---how many people does a mailbox-bomb take out? Likely not more than a few. A naval raid on an entire town? Lots more, is my guess. As for game mechanics---the pipe bomb and anthrax, not possible. Naval raid---happened tons of times.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by Cheops

Yet you just said, you were inactive enough that Alan decided to demote you. Anyway that settles that.

I participated in the events, idiot. I just didn't stay bmode and other stuff because even the other members at the time didn't do much more than I did.

Originally Posted by Cheops

just wanted to force you to admit you were inactive.

To be an ass. If that's your one true aim, that's sad.

Originally Posted by Cheops

You mean RP-wise or through GM. In RP terms---how many people does a mailbox-bomb take out? Likely not more than a few. A naval raid on an entire town? Lots more, is my guess. As for game mechanics---the pipe bomb and anthrax, not possible. Naval raid---happened tons of times.

You're missing the point I was making completely. Stop and take time to actually comprehend something rather than just reading it, taking pieces of it, and throwing it into your arguement without any general regard to what I was trying to say.

[Cheops]

Originally Posted by Draenin

I participated in the events, idiot. I just didn't stay bmode and other stuff because even the other members at the time didn't do much more than I did.

Funny I didn't see you at them except afterwards.

Originally Posted by Draenin

To be an ass. If that's your one true aim, that's sad.

To show how you contradicted yourself after I called you on something and to wonder why you care so much about a rank and kingdom you left and didn't contribute all that much to.

Originally Posted by Draenin

You're missing the point I was making completely. Stop and take time to actually comprehend something rather than just reading it, taking pieces of it, and throwing it into your arguement without any general regard to what I was trying to say.

Then please explain, you weren't very clear. I love how whenever someone fails to put something in a clear and concise manner and as a result someone misinterprets it, it's always "stop and take the time to actually comprehend rather than just reading." Please explain what you did mean.

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Also note, the use of the words idiot and ass in an otherwise rational discussion. Keep your cool, kid, and I'll keep mine.

By the way, conspicuously absent is your acceptance of my invitation. Still open when you get the guts and the skills.