Forest Council

[Xeph0ria]

I know I am not always right, and I never claimed to be always right. And my only point in the overthrows was that both people believed it was something they needed to do, so in their minds what they were doing was not being a traitor. However, any time someone unsuccessfully attempts to overthrow someone, it is looked at as being a traitor. Had either of the two been successful, they would have been looked upon as 'heroes'

As for pruning bad branches...I prefer to look upon it a different way. If I had taken that approach, I would have believed Kyden to be a bad branch, or a threat to myself. However, what I'm looking for is not power...instead, it is the ability to do what I believe needs to be done to keep forest going and rebuild it. It can NOT be said that Forest was not in a state of decay before I held the throne. Forest was virtually dead when chris gave it to Gryffon, and besides a few stories, some rank changing, and the beginning of a story that I am going to continue...not a whole lot really WAS done before I got it. Maybe had you had more time, you could have obtained the goal you were trying for, I don't know, and I'm not trying to discredit what you did at all, but just know that I am here for the betterment of the Forest...Nothing else.

I'm not saying either one had any good reasons or bad reasons or whatever, I'm not even reading into the specific situations very much, I was only trying to demonstrate that

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Xeph0ria

I know I am not always right, and I never claimed to be always right. And my only point in the overthrows was that both people believed it was something they needed to do, so in their minds what they were doing was not being a traitor. However, any time someone unsuccessfully attempts to overthrow someone, it is looked at as being a traitor. Had either of the two been successful, they would have been looked upon as 'heroes'

As for pruning bad branches...I prefer to look upon it a different way. If I had taken that approach, I would have believed Kyden to be a bad branch, or a threat to myself. However, what I'm looking for is not power...instead, it is the ability to do what I believe needs to be done to keep forest going and rebuild it. It can NOT be said that Forest was not in a state of decay before I held the throne. Forest was virtually dead when chris gave it to Gryffon, and besides a few stories, some rank changing, and the beginning of a story that I am going to continue...not a whole lot really WAS done before I got it. Maybe had you had more time, you could have obtained the goal you were trying for, I don't know, and I'm not trying to discredit what you did at all, but just know that I am here for the betterment of the Forest...Nothing else.

I'm not saying either one had any good reasons or bad reasons or whatever, I'm not even reading into the specific situations very much, I was only trying to demonstrate that

Lasaria: My posts have no backing? Becan was the same as Kyden? You NEVER said these things when I was the Reis; you never said "Let's keep Becan around." There's a vast difference between overthrowing an inneffective leader and questing for personal power.

Dayaa: Oh my, the Queen of Forest has spoken? Then surely all our woes must be in vain! For none of us have the wisdom to rival
a leader of Forest.

All: I hope you can all see what this farce really is; not true activity but feigned interest to support a bad regime. IC, there is no comparisson between a simple monarch, and an elven sage empowered by the Sap of Turns. If Kyden had sought power for himself on a personal level, wouldn't he already have flexed his IC might? If Lasaria, who had been Queen for quite a while, was a proper leader, wouldn't Chris have chosen him instead of me? What good is a council when it merely empowers the people already in power; what does it do but bolster an iron-handed reign?

[Xeph0ria]

My views changed between when I was "merely queen" and when I held the throne. However, my interest is sincere, and it will be seen. I need not argue about it to prove it.

As for 'leadership' in the past, if you asked chris then, he would have told you it was because I was not very active. If you asked him now, it would either be the same answer, or the answer may have changed (whether it's a sincere belief or not) likely because of what has been said since the fact.

Regardless, like I said before, I'm not going to argue about this, instead I'm going to lead Forest into a better time, and the actions will speak louder than any promise or any belittlement of my character could. Let's leave it at that. If you wish, you can say something like "when you fail, I'll be here to tell you i told you so," if you wish. It will show your maturity level as what it apparently truely is.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Xeph0ria

My views changed between when I was "merely queen" and when I held the throne. However, my interest is sincere, and it will be seen. I need not argue about it to prove it.

As for 'leadership' in the past, if you asked chris then, he would have told you it was because I was not very active. If you asked him now, it would either be the same answer, or the answer may have changed (whether it's a sincere belief or not) likely because of what has been said since the fact.

Regardless, like I said before, I'm not going to argue about this, instead I'm going to lead Forest into a better time, and the actions will speak louder than any promise or any belittlement of my character could. Let's leave it at that. If you wish, you can say something like "when you fail, I'll be here to tell you i told you so," if you wish. It will show your maturity level as what it apparently truely is.

I do not say "I told you so", I'll merely say that I have said what I said, with fullest conviction: that I believe you are an inferior leader, a questionable Roleplayer, an arguable nepitist, and that I am sorry I ever entrusted something as precious as Forest to once such as yourself.

"Chris picked you because you were more active". You don't believe that. The instant I became Aren, you assailed me twice: once on the matter of retaining your precious power, and a second time on the matter that you were more active than I was. You can't change your mind "after the fact".

[Waltz5]

Originally Posted by Xeph0ria

However, I spoke to Kyden and forgave him,

You can't forgive me, I did nothing wrong.

and he knows I have an open mind about things and if he has any suggestions, I listen.

Open mind? Or just in one ear and out the other?

But I'm done arguing, it's time to let this play out and see what happens and let the actions speak louder than the arguments.

Let it play out? In the months you've had you've done nothing except recruit members, promote some people, and had people collect tree seeds.

[AlaricoMontario]

Originally Posted by Waltz5

You can't forgive me, I did nothing wrong.


Open mind? Or just in one ear and out the other?


Let it play out? In the months you've had you've done nothing except recruit members, promote some people, and had people collect tree seeds.

I can vouch for the make us get tree seeds thing xD

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by AlaricoMontario

I can vouch for the make us get tree seeds thing xD

Back when I led Forest, I refused to leave the island so my diet consisted of worms and treeseeds