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Old 07-17-2005, 07:10 PM
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Yes, hate on somone because he isn't as ignorant or dense as you are. It's funny how alot of you are open on hating him now in this thread when there's a mass of you and he isn't here. Real chivalrous of you. Also, to make fun of him for his age, what's the point? Why isn't he allowed to post on a forum, let alone the NGRT, to participate in current events and the such? Oh right, because when you make a post that isn't thought out, he critisizes it. God forbid we have any intelligent conflicts on the forums! Besides, what about Galen, Stefan, Unix, Tux, Moons, and the such? Oh, you'd just rather brown nose your way in because they're all hunky-dory about life. I'd like to see the lot of you grow up and learn to talk trash to somones face, but hey, I guess you're all just children... since he's oh-so-old.
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It's funny how alot of you are open on hating him now in this thread when there's a mass of you and he isn't here.
I'd be willing to bet he is aware of my dislike for him, considering I have told him to his face many times.
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Yes, hate on somone because he isn't as ignorant or dense as you are. It's funny how alot of you are open on hating him now in this thread when there's a mass of you and he isn't here. Real chivalrous of you. Also, to make fun of him for his age, what's the point? Why isn't he allowed to post on a forum, let alone the NGRT, to participate in current events and the such? Oh right, because when you make a post that isn't thought out, he critisizes it. God forbid we have any intelligent conflicts on the forums! Besides, what about Galen, Stefan, Unix, Tux, Moons, and the such? Oh, you'd just rather brown nose your way in because they're all hunky-dory about life. I'd like to see the lot of you grow up and learn to talk trash to somones face, but hey, I guess you're all just children... since he's oh-so-old.
I don't think people get upset by his age so much as it is his age combined with how he speaks to the younger members. Kids dont like someone tearing apart everything they say, and having to defend themselves, especially if that wasn't the point of their post to begin with.
(This assumption based on the complaints I have seen).
Members also get angry when their threads go completely haywire with some debate with Kaimetsu and someone else, when their thread wasn't put here for that intention (also based on what I have seen).

Kaimetsu is very good at debating, no one can take that from him, but every single thread isn't made for him to debate, and not all kids/young adults even like to debate issues hence why they get angry when their thread turns into a debate.
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Same here, and so has several other members.
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Yes, hate on somone because he isn't as ignorant or dense as you are. It's funny how alot of you are open on hating him now in this thread when there's a mass of you and he isn't here. Real chivalrous of you. Also, to make fun of him for his age, what's the point? Why isn't he allowed to post on a forum, let alone the NGRT, to participate in current events and the such? Oh right, because when you make a post that isn't thought out, he critisizes it. God forbid we have any intelligent conflicts on the forums! Besides, what about Galen, Stefan, Unix, Tux, Moons, and the such? Oh, you'd just rather brown nose your way in because they're all hunky-dory about life. I'd like to see the lot of you grow up and learn to talk trash to somones face, but hey, I guess you're all just children... since he's oh-so-old.
Scott just opened a can of ownage onto the forum's Kai haters. But seriously Scott, do we really need to argue on every single thread ? We as in some people vs kai?
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Old 07-17-2005, 08:31 PM
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Old 07-17-2005, 08:37 PM
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Scott just opened a can of ownage onto the forum's Kai haters. But seriously Scott, do we really need to argue on every single thread ? We as in some people vs kai?
It would almost be disrespectful to Kai to not have a fight in his goodbye thread.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:21 PM
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Yes, hate on somone because he isn't as ignorant or dense as you are.
I don't think that's why they hate him. I think it's more been along the lines of him being a pain in the ass.
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It's funny how alot of you are open on hating him now in this thread when there's a mass of you and he isn't here. Real chivalrous of you.
I think I've been fairly open about my dislike of him.
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Also, to make fun of him for his age, what's the point? Why isn't he allowed to post on a forum, let alone the NGRT, to participate in current events and the such?
First of all, nobody made fun of his age, they simply criticized him for being so old and posting only to increase his ego. That's fairly immature behavior.
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Oh right, because when you make a post that isn't thought out, he critisizes it.
No, he takes stupid things to argue about and magnifies them.
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God forbid we have any intelligent conflicts on the forums! Besides, what about Galen, Stefan, Unix, Tux, Moons, and the such? Oh, you'd just rather brown nose your way in because they're all hunky-dory about life. I'd like to see the lot of you grow up and learn to talk trash to somones face, but hey, I guess you're all just children... since he's oh-so-old.
Jeeze-us. Are you PMSing or something?
Kai was an *******. He still is, probably, but he's being one somewhere else. Stop acting as if a critical part of this community has been removed.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:27 PM
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scott everyone who is talkin **** now were kai-haters for a long time

I hate him because he has to argue about **** which he doesnt even care about like GK
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I'd like to see the lot of you grow up and learn to talk trash to somones face, but hey, I guess you're all just children... since he's oh-so-old.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:54 PM
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True, but dude... Kai made some pretty good points throughout his campaign of ownage.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:36 PM
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I don't think that's why they hate him. I think it's more been along the lines of him being a pain in the ass.

First of all, nobody made fun of his age, they simply criticized him for being so old and posting only to increase his ego. That's fairly immature behavior.

No, he takes stupid things to argue about and magnifies them.

Jeeze-us. Are you PMSing or something?
Kai was an *******. He still is, probably, but he's being one somewhere else. Stop acting as if a critical part of this community has been removed.
Er, you're making it sound like you take personal offence to getting pwned on a messageboard. If that's the case, then you do take things to seriously.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:39 PM
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Why make fun of his age? Moon Goddess was twice his age, and she doesn't seem to be able to measure up against his witty battles. In many ways, Kaimetsu was a fabulous guy, and most of you disrespected him because of his arrogant way of ruining your threads. Perhaps if you were a little more respectful towards him, and accepted that you were wrong when you made a mistake, most of his arguing would be finished within the first post. But instead, you people have too much pride to accept that you are not always right.
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Why make fun of his age? Moon Goddess was twice his age, and she doesn't seem to be able to measure up against his witty battles. In many ways, Kaimetsu was a fabulous guy, and most of you disrespected him because of his arrogant way of ruining your threads. Perhaps if you were a little more respectful towards him, and accepted that you were wrong when you made a mistake, most of his arguing would be finished within the first post. But instead, you people have too much pride to accept that you are not always right.

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Rofl, it is funny that people acaully "hate" him.
I just think it is funny how he makes everyone look like an idiot.
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Perhaps if you were a little more respectful towards him, and accepted that you were wrong when you made a mistake, most of his arguing would be finished within the first post. But instead, you people have too much pride to accept that you are not always right.
I had a few arguments with him, and usually the only reason it went on because we misunderstood eachother. I never disliked him though.
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Er, you're making it sound like you take personal offence to getting pwned on a messageboard. If that's the case, then you do take things to seriously.
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Exactly. He never actually proved anyone wrong. Everyone is acting like he owned everyone, but all he did was advocate uncertainty. Since humans are pretty much inherently cautious, he was just exploiting a common psychological traite.
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but all he did was advocate uncertainty. Since humans are pretty much inherently cautious, he was just exploiting a common psychological traite.
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Exactly. He never actually proved anyone wrong. Everyone is acting like he owned everyone, but all he did was advocate uncertainty. Since humans are pretty much inherently cautious, he was just exploiting a common psychological traite.
So? What's invalid about advocating uncertainty?
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So? What's invalid about advocating uncertainty?
Nothing is invalid about it, it's just annoying to come here and try to post and get help and then Kaimetsu comes around and just says something so pointless, then you have his little herd of Kaimetsu lovers come around (which mods are included) and cheer him on then it gets even more annoying.

I didn't hate Kai, I found his arguments funny but just like GRAWL THE COMIC, it got old. Sometimes I like to go on the forums to actually read about a certain topic, but when I get to page 4 it's just Kai defending himself over something absolutely stupid. If he really is that smart he would get away from graal forever and get a successful job and throw his money and arguments around somewhere else.

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Notice, I don't debate with him, because I hate to debate, it is never ending, and he is really good at it
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Hard to have respect for that don't you think? It wouldn't have been so bad if it didn't happen so frequently.
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IMO, Kai wasn't looking for respect, he was looking for debates/arguements. He admitted more than once that he liked doing so. Alot of times, things that were started, never should have been started to begin with.

You people know that we are probably all being set up here right? Kaimetsu is probably reading this thread constantly and laughing
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Why make fun of his age? Moon Goddess was twice his age, and she doesn't seem to be able to measure up against his witty battles. In many ways, Kaimetsu was a fabulous guy, and most of you disrespected him because of his arrogant way of ruining your threads. Perhaps if you were a little more respectful towards him, and accepted that you were wrong when you made a mistake, most of his arguing would be finished within the first post. But instead, you people have too much pride to accept that you are not always right.
I'd love to agree with you, but I simply don't.

He may have been witty, but it was poorly used and channeled entirely incorrectly. He was a pompous prick. Touche, though, touche...
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Old 07-18-2005, 05:58 AM
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I didn't die
Notice, I don't debate with him, because I hate to debate, it is never ending, and he is really good at it
Hard to have respect for that don't you think? It wouldn't have been so bad if it didn't happen so frequently.
IMO, Kai wasn't looking for respect, he was looking for debates/arguements. He admitted more than once that he liked doing so. Alot of times, things that were started, never should have been started to begin with.

You people know that we are probably all being set up here right? Kaimetsu is probably reading this thread constantly and laughing
Why don't you just ban him since he's only about causing trouble and pissing people off?

Really what use does he have on these forums? Granted many people here have no use(myself included since I'm not heavily involved with the graal community) but Kai really goes the extra mile to aggrivate everyone.
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Old 07-18-2005, 06:33 AM
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Whoa, I'm late.

Kaimetsu, gone?! That's not cool.

I looked up to his debating skills, he owned.



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Old 07-18-2005, 07:30 AM
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Why don't you just ban him since he's only about causing trouble and pissing people off?

Really what use does he have on these forums? Granted many people here have no use(myself included since I'm not heavily involved with the graal community) but Kai really goes the extra mile to aggrivate everyone.
Pissing people off is subjective. Not all people were pissed off.

Secondly, Kaimetsu was simply trying to stop us from using the same, fallacious arguments everytime, which we inevitably did. It may seem like I'm bolstering him and i'm quite sure he didn't argue to teach, but he went at every argument with logic.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:49 AM
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I don't think people get upset by his age so much as it is his age combined with how he speaks to the younger members. Kids dont like someone tearing apart everything they say, and having to defend themselves, especially if that wasn't the point of their post to begin with.
(This assumption based on the complaints I have seen).
Members also get angry when their threads go completely haywire with some debate with Kaimetsu and someone else, when their thread wasn't put here for that intention (also based on what I have seen).

Kaimetsu is very good at debating, no one can take that from him, but every single thread isn't made for him to debate, and not all kids/young adults even like to debate issues hence why they get angry when their thread turns into a debate.
Same here, and so has several other members.
If these kids don't like his posts, they can bloody well ignore him. That's the beauty of forums, you can selectively ignore things. They don't have to "defend" themselves at all, if they learned that there wasn't a death shadow behind them bidding them to read his posts. Also, this being a forum, threads should be allowed in depth investigation. Are you saying if somone makes a suggestion, we should all just post with a "yes" or "no" answer? **** that. Stop giving him what he wants and continuing debates then. That's all that's needed. Grow up.

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I don't think that's why they hate him. I think it's more been along the lines of him being a pain in the ass.
What? Remember Myukoi? Alot of people only hated him because some of the more popular users did. I'm not saying all the people that dislike Kai are on some bandwagon, but alot are. If he's a pain in the ass, ignore it.
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First of all, nobody made fun of his age, they simply criticized him for being so old and posting only to increase his ego. That's fairly immature behavior.
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My theory is he finally got a life.
That's not poking fun? That's insinuating he didn't have a life. And being so old? That's only 4 years older than me. Boost his ego? He doesn't need to boost it by dealing with trivial "children." (I mean, since he's so old, you must be a child, right VT?) I also like how you call him mature;
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man scott you cryin to much get a tissue pls quit cryin :[
Yup. Kai is immature compared to other people on this forum. Gosh darn, silly me.
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No, he takes stupid things to argue about and magnifies them.
Finally you've acknowledged religion as being stupid. I'm sure Kai will appreciate that.

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Jeeze-us. Are you PMSing or something?
Kai was an *******. He still is, probably, but he's being one somewhere else. Stop acting as if a critical part of this community has been removed.
No, I'm just looking at the facts. He may have been an *******, but that's only in the perspective of certain people. I think sometimes he may have gone over the top, but that's only because you fed him. Also, I never considered logic a critical part of this forum, or Graal itself. I agree with you. ^_^;

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scott everyone who is talkin **** now were kai-haters for a long time

I hate him because he has to argue about **** which he doesnt even care about like GK
brad everyone who is talking **** now have been kai-haters for a long time but are only saying **** about it because he's not here to defend himself and have other people to back them up. ;_;

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Someones Face?

I didnt realise Kai talking trash to someone online was the same as talking trash to someones face
Either did I. Did you discover something new? Kai didn't talk trash, he analyzed your emotions and actions. I don't remember him calling anyone an ******* or telling them bluntly that they should die. If he did, he went about it in a more cunning way, that the person on the recieving end probably didn't even realize it.

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man scott you cryin to much get a tissue pls quit cryin :[
You again. I am crying. Wow. Look at me cry. Look at me cry. Hey. Guess what. Cry. Yup, that's me. And this is what the majority of you prefer to Kai? Well, whatever floats your canoes.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:26 PM
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*****, have a cry about it people who think im a *******.

I'm allowed a oppinion (so are you aswell). and have you ever heard of a hyperbole (probally isn't spelt correct) I don't want him dead I just think he's the biggest ****. who likes to take people down to increase his own ego.

He's the biggest egotisticall pratt i've ever had the pleasure to meet.

The reason I say pleasure is because it's good I can meet someone like him so I wont take people who are not *******s for granted

and I aint no two faced talk behind someones back either.

Lol, at banning him. I disliked him but he was a great help when he actually felt like being a half decent err cyber person.

I'll say stuff to his face.

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Shut up with your KSI-GS bs, everyone has heard it enough.

If they really cared then they would do it, it aint a nessecity it's just something that you said to help people (I'm sure that's great for some) stop being a johova and stop preaching.

I'm sick of hearing you piss on about it, you're being a broken record now shut up.
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:00 PM
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Haha, if Kai were here now he'd literally **** all of you guys over.

I only spoke to Kaimetsu on #gscript and from what I got from him he was an easy aproachable decent guy. I'll miss him.

Believe it or not, you guys need a good kick in you all think you're better than everyone else online. Kai got you down to earth and instead of using his hardcoreness skills to kick your ass he used his degree in English.
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