The Fine Line - The Limit of Roleplaying

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Draenin

We didn't "all agree" on anything. You just liked the idea, and you ran with it. The problem is that you do not listen, Gambet.

Considering you said you agreed on it and I said I agreed on it and Butz made the suggestion, then I guess that means we all agreed on it (atleast everyone who was there at the moment). Remember, it does not mean that what Butz suggested would be used, it just means that we found a better solution for an idea, which is a good thing.

Originally Posted by Draenin

And no, by "we"

You meant me. And by

By "we" I meant The Team.

Originally Posted by Draenin

You were an outcast from the beginning. (A 'testmember.')

That does not make me an outcast. I'm in the team on more of a trial basis to show Bjoern and Sam that I can keep up with both my Zone job and GK job.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

1) How exactly do you intend to enforce them?
2) You seem to be arguing that a bad rule can only be removed if a better one can be identified?

1) I'm not going to enforce that rule if the team does not agree upon it. As I said, my intentions are not to punish, but rather to teach.

2) Not exactly. A bad rule can be removed, but we still have not found valid reasoning for it to be deemed a "bad rule". It is quite useful for those beginning to learn, and it's also useful during role playing events (which was explained a few posts above by someone else).

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by Gambet

I'm not going to enforce that rule if the team does not agree upon it. As I said, my intentions are not to punish, but rather to teach

This seems to conflict with your earlier statement:

"they will have to still be used in the future"

If they are not going to be enforced, how are they going to be "used"?

Not exactly. A bad rule can be removed, but we still have not found valid reasoning for it to be deemed a "bad rule"

Well, I already explained that. Context usually makes it easy to tell that a person is speaking out of character. The brackets don't add anything, and they inconvenience the players. Bad rule.

Your words:

"Until we, the team, come up with better rules to replace them [...]"

Are you now rescinding this and agreeing that the rule could be removed even without a replacement, as long as it can be shown to be detrimental?

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

This seems to conflict with your earlier statement:

"they will have to still be used in the future"

If they are not going to be enforced, how are they going to be "used"?

They won't be if the team decides to not use them.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Well, I already explained that. Context usually makes it easy to tell that a person is speaking out of character. The brackets don't add anything, and they inconvenience the players. Bad rule.

Your words:

"Until we, the team, come up with better rules to replace them [...]"

Are you now rescinding this and agreeing that the rule could be removed even without a replacement, as long as it can be shown to be detrimental?

Yes, I will bring up this discussion with the team when we have our meeting. We have still yet to meet everyone together, so nothing has been determined as of yet. But, all suggestions are welcome.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by Gambet

They won't be if the team decides to not use them

Then you are rescinding your statement. Okay.

If it were all up to you, how would you enforce the rule?

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Then you are rescinding your statement. Okay.

If it were all up to you, how would you enforce the rule?

I'm not going to punish people left and right for not knowing the rules, or for being new and so forth. I just hope I WON'T have to punish anyone. I mean, I'm sure if we all agree on punishing anyone, it would be for extreme matters. Learning how to properly role play may take some time for certain people, so we have to bare with them.

Warnings are always nice .

But I honestly wouldn't warn anyone unless they knew the rules but wanted to "act cool" by not following them . It happens a lot on Graal.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by Gambet

I'm not going to punish people left and right for not knowing the rules, or for being new and so forth

I didn't ask what you wouldn't do.