Classic Progress Report.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Tyhm

thus I opted to give Classic to someone who would work on it, a scripting genius - Com

I don't recall Com ever being given the title of "manager", or even anything above "LAT Administrator". He certainly didn't work on it a whole lot after a while, either.

so he gave it to Stormy.

I'm glad I just got completely skipped here...



As for what's being discussed here... I gave up trying to get the current administration to change several months ago. They simply want to do things their way. Classic had quite a few things from before already converted to work with an NPC Server. So what did Storm do when he came in? Oh, that's right, he deleted it all. While it may be true that everything was poorly planned out and scattered in terms of what was completed, it's also true that Classic has always been that way. (In the time I've been around, anyway.) It's certainly not something that wasn't able to be worked with. Hell, I used to work with the old system scripts on Classic prior to the NPC Server. I can assure you those were far worse than anything that was ever put on Classic Dev. It's apparently better for Storm to do everything himself, rather than using the resources that were available at the time. It doesn't matter if we essentially start with a completely blank server that has nothing, which is so far from what I know as Classic it's not even funny.

Anyway, it should be obvious now why I no longer help Classic, or care to try to get things changed anymore. I just thought I'd tell things the way I see them, in case there's some information there that was previously unknown.

[Evil_Trunks]

Originally Posted by Tyhm

thus I opted to give Classic to someone who would work on it, a scripting genius - Com. Who had no head for politics (much like myself) and couldn't handle the requests to hire and fire, so he gave it to Stormy.

Com didn't do anything

Storm redid all the systems, but what's the point? honestly, Classic would have been better off launching with the levels on classicdev from BEFORE Storm started over.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Leonis

So what if I'm contradicting myself? Just how original and clean can you be with pics1.png? Look at Maloria - look at Unholy Nation. All of their caves use similar tiles, yet use horrid black tiles as a background and use fewer tiles, meaning less detail. Go compare. :/

Despite what you may be implying, people have been able to make good levels without tile errors. The current Ventrue levels are bad: endl;

Originally Posted by Leonis

As for malfunctioning NPCs, how many times must I say this? PLEASE ****ING LIST THEM SO WE CAN FIX THEM. Thanks.

Not our job. It is the responsibility of whoever uploaded the levels to ensure that they are of top quality. There is no need for you to lose your temper.

Originally Posted by Leonis

If someone would be so kind as to list all tile errors/scripting errors in a nice presentable list and send them to either myself or Bell so we can fix them to please the masses, then do so.

Again, it is the responsibility of whoever uploaded the levels. If whoever uploaded the levels failed that responsibility, he/she should promptly admit uploading them as a mistake and either be more mindful in the future or resign.

Originally Posted by Leonis

Otherwise, stop your God damned *****ing

Are you so immature that you need to take the time out to compose this?

[zim5354]

/\ oh so true

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by Inspiration

The bottom line is, even working at a snails pace, a single person could have created more content than classic currently has, in the given time classic has had.

There is no excuse for the current lack of content really.

original point

[zim5354]

well this seems to be turning out kinda like g2k1 or kinda like delteria where one guild pretty much runs the server only this server is on a slide going to hell.

[maximus_asinus]

I massed "Worst Manager Ever" and Master Storm disconnected me. Actually he seems to disconnect me a lot lately.

[maximus_asinus]

I can honestly say, because of this thread, Storm actually decided to do something, even though its barely noticible, he fixed a couple errors in the hit detection.

[p2p_Sir_Link]

luda4gc,vin4gp,kev4lat

Newest revolution, although no one will hire us because we're too leet.

[maximus_asinus]

Today, Storm and I sat down and had a long debate (and most likely this thread was why), concerning several topics such as the new hit detection and movement VS the old, and why there was a lack of anything for updates.

For the new systems, it was a basic "Pro, Con" scenario. He explain why he felt it was necessary, how by rescripting the bombs and arrows he needed to in turn rescript everything else. Any suggestions I made to how he could have redone the items without scripting an entirely new system were ignored. I told him of several different severe bugs / issues with his system, but it didn't appear to get through to him. The new system is anti - lag, meaning it hurts anyone who lagged in the first place. Remember when you'd see someone running, and they'd stop and 'lagged out', and then jump from point A to point B? With the new system, this still happens, but thanks to serverside hit detection, you can PK a person when they appear to 'lag out'. It didn't sound like that point got through to him so I told him about another related topic. Moving between levels. You know how a person on a slowed connection would lag going through doors, and links? Still happens, but now you can kill a person if they lagging when they're moving to another level. More of the same can be done. This isn't fair to anyone on a slower connection/computer, his system barely works for stable connections, but even worse for those or bad ones.

As for lack of updates he decided to show me some baddies he got around to making. They work pretty smoothly, but I'd expect more, we have NPC server and some of the best scripters. Utilize them. From his mouth he did admitt he wasn't planning on any major releases, only bug fixes, [edit]and working on various things behind the scenes.[/edit] He wants to wait until everyone has access to V4, which hasn't even had a release date set. How long will we have to wait? 6 - 8 months? A year? I doubt Classic will be able to hold out for that long. The majority of people use V2, why not make something, and rescript it to support V4 when the time comes. Sure it'll be more work but hell, wouldn't you like to see someone updated on the server?

I demand that something happen on Classic. Update something, do some work and make a quest, make something.

[SoSolid66]

GC's hosting more often would be a nice improvement

[p2p_Sir_Link]

That would require more GCs, but Nighty spends all his time playing GK.

[Leonis]

And the Assistant GC Admin is on strike.

[p2p_Sir_Link]

Originally Posted by Leonis

And the Assistant GC Admin is on strike.

Yea, that pisses me off. Sting was never essential, and never will be. He has no talents such as events construction. He should be fired, but night won't do it.

What rascist/bashing comments?

[maximus_asinus]

Another case of bad Administrating. Nighty is going inactive, he doesn't do his job properly, and I bet you he lost interest with classic. His loss of interest causes him to work less, and his job gets negected. Everyone is effected by these lack of updates.

[edit]Just in, Storm has threatened to ban me (his words were remove me) because of me speaking out against him[/edit]