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Old 03-26-2005, 12:18 AM
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i am banned from samurai but i am not on the black list. i was told by nanoko(i apologize for spelling) her self i was going to be blacklisted, i even went on thier black list page to joke about it but it wasn't documented infront of me. i may not know zurkiba as long as you all but he seems pretty decent.and thier is the chance of redemption.
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Then you can't blame Ed for allowing Zurkiba into the kingdom although he was blacklisted, now can you?
There is more to spotting bad players than looking in a blacklist, given that staff disconnected Zurk trying to get him out of the castle...I can't even remember how many times, and the other abuses he did - his reputation should not have been that hard to uncover.

I just think Zurk's addition was unfortunate, but I am still on Dustari and wouldn't go to war over the guy. I feel he'll get himself removed soon enough, its in his nature to do so.
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There is more to spotting bad players than looking in a blacklist, given that staff disconnected Zurk trying to get him out of the castle...I can't even remember how many times, and the other abuses he did - his reputation should not have been that hard to uncover.
Still, my point remains valid. Zurkiba is not blacklisted, so there's no way in hell a war can be started over Dustari adding the guy.
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thats what he is saying he doesn't want a war, but he understands why we are upset. if we get in a war with Dustari we are screwed.
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I dont care to argue... it would be similiar if I knew my teacher would give me a zero on a project, no matter what I did, and I worked long and hard on it. Just doesn't make any sense.

So ol', all knowing Padren. You mention my actions over and over. Please explain these actions to me

YOU LEFT DUSTARI:
I was removed from Dustari because Tseng removed two people, including Larrien, for the OOC comment of "Tseng should be on more often", and I protested it... OOCly of course. You should be glad I even roleplayed a small exit. And if I do recall, later you staged a revolt, in which I would have returned and would've been accepted with open arms.

YOU CAMPED IN THE CASTLE:
No, I went into the castle as a Duke of Dustari to roleplay with Zoe. In which she insulted me.

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That aside... what have I done against Zormite? Nothing!
What have I done against Dustari? Nothing!
What have I done against people such as yourself? Nothing!

So Padren, I'm going to paraphrase you here to simply say
"stop being an obstructionist."

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Durime... do you even know what a catalyst is?

Your aid...... all of 2 members. nice. See you there... wait I forgot who this was written for. See you there for two seconds before you log for a week and a half.

Maybe you should check your misunderstood concepts and explore the buffer analogy... seems to make more sense for the concept you are trying to apply.

How about next week when your class gets to the explantion about Pangea you can talk about the kingdoms in that context and give us a nice explanation about how they formed, all mighty ROI.
Learn to Roleplay please. There is -no way- that the island of Forest only has two people on it. Every kingdom has an invisible citizenry, army, and navy.
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I dont care to argue... it would be similiar if I knew my teacher would give me a zero on a project, no matter what I did, and I worked long and hard on it. Just doesn't make any sense.

So ol', all knowing Padren. You mention my actions over and over. Please explain these actions to me

YOU LEFT DUSTARI:
I was removed from Dustari because Tseng removed two people, including Larrien, for the OOC comment of "Tseng should be on more often", and I protested it... OOCly of course. You should be glad I even roleplayed a small exit. And if I do recall, later you staged a revolt, in which I would have returned and would've been accepted with open arms.

YOU CAMPED IN THE CASTLE:
No, I went into the castle as a Duke of Dustari to roleplay with Zoe. In which she insulted me.

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That aside... what have I done against Zormite? Nothing!
What have I done against Dustari? Nothing!
What have I done against people such as yourself? Nothing!

So Padren, I'm going to paraphrase you here to simply say
"stop being an obstructionist."
If I said 'you left Dustari' I am sorry, I should have said you were thown out. After your dismissal you were still not welcome in Dustari, for various reasons. , not the least of which was your continuing hostility towards Zormite and pretty much everyone you disagreed with.

With your 'roleplaying' fiasco when you castle camped....why is it that you just couldn't get the message that you are not a duke anymore accept it even when staff told you to stop distrupting the events?

Don't you think that if I was to go try to 'rp' on forest as their king, that maybe I would not be 'well received' and just perhaps, it would be because I was acting like an idiot?

Is that explained to your satisfaction?
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If I said 'you left Dustari' I am sorry, I should have said you were thown out. After your dismissal you were still not welcome in Dustari, for various reasons. , not the least of which was your continuing hostility towards Zormite and pretty much everyone you disagreed with.

With your 'roleplaying' fiasco when you castle camped....why is it that you just couldn't get the message that you are not a duke anymore accept it even when staff told you to stop distrupting the events?

Don't you think that if I was to go try to 'rp' on forest as their king, that maybe I would not be 'well received' and just perhaps, it would be because I was acting like an idiot?

Is that explained to your satisfaction?
What reasons? You keep saying I have done bad actions against Dustari, bad actions against Zormite. Yet you cant support your claims.

No staff told me to "stop distrupting events". I was roleplaying as my character none the less.

Considering that my character was never removed as Duke, nor were his lands actually taken from him, I do believe I have full right to claim my land and retain the title of Duke.
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Considering that my character was never removed as Duke, nor were his lands actually taken from him, I do believe I have full right to claim my land and retain the title of Duke.
What does it take for you to accept that you were removed as Duke and your lands were taken from you?

Raziel Venmyr, His Grace the Duke of Borea held 'your' position long after your absense, in which much of your former lands rest. You were disgraced, removed, gone, history, and all but forgotten. Why can't you accept that?

We even considered at one time letting you come back, but you felt physcially ill at the idea of being in a Dustari that was allied with Zormite. I made that offer to you myself and you decided not to return.

But please, tell us, here and now, what exactly would you have considered 'notice' of your removal as Duke from Dustari? Not when you were removed and stripped of that rank of course, nor when other people filled your previous rank, nor when you were told by the leaders of the kingdom told you those lands had since been reclaimed, nor when you were told you were not welcome to disrupt events of actual members of the kingdom - please, do tell us what exactly happened that made this all 'fuzzy' for you? How did you fail to comprehend? And please, let us know how all this equates to 'good roleplaying' on your part, I am sure it will be interesting.
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I'm still wondering why none of you actually gave me any examples and facts to why he was bad. You just kept saying he was bad. O.o All except for one bad thing he did, I heard about indirectly. Why do you spare me the much needed information?
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What does it take for you to accept that you were removed as Duke and your lands were taken from you?

Raziel Venmyr, His Grace the Duke of Borea held 'your' position long after your absense, in which much of your former lands rest. You were disgraced, removed, gone, history, and all but forgotten. Why can't you accept that?

We even considered at one time letting you come back, but you felt physcially ill at the idea of being in a Dustari that was allied with Zormite. I made that offer to you myself and you decided not to return.

But please, tell us, here and now, what exactly would you have considered 'notice' of your removal as Duke from Dustari? Not when you were removed and stripped of that rank of course, nor when other people filled your previous rank, nor when you were told by the leaders of the kingdom told you those lands had since been reclaimed, nor when you were told you were not welcome to disrupt events of actual members of the kingdom - please, do tell us what exactly happened that made this all 'fuzzy' for you? How did you fail to comprehend? And please, let us know how all this equates to 'good roleplaying' on your part, I am sure it will be interesting.
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Why would Zormite seriously need a good reason to start a war? Why can't they just be announcing that they are invading Dustari because Zurkiba joined, while actually doing it for imperialistic reasons? Since when is it an international crisis when two kingdoms go to war?

A Zormite Dictator finally got the balls to say that he doesn't want to be Dustari's little handservant anymore. And I applaud him for that.
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Durime... do you even know what a catalyst is?

Your aid...... all of 2 members. nice. See you there... wait I forgot who this was written for. See you there for two seconds before you log for a week and a half.

Maybe you should check your misunderstood concepts and explore the buffer analogy... seems to make more sense for the concept you are trying to apply.

How about next week when your class gets to the explantion about Pangea you can talk about the kingdoms in that context and give us a nice explanation about how they formed, all mighty ROI.
Wow, let's think IN CHARACTER for a moment. Forest is a huge, fertile island. Forest can send food to it's allies. Forest contains huge magical potential, and from an In-Character perspective, it has more than it's OOC members.

Wow, isn't it fun to think from a Roleplaying point of view as opposed to game mechanics?
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Why would Zormite seriously need a good reason to start a war? Why can't they just be announcing that they are invading Dustari because Zurkiba joined, while actually doing it for imperialistic reasons? Since when is it an international crisis when two kingdoms go to war?

A Zormite Dictator finally got the balls to say that he doesn't want to be Dustari's little handservant anymore. And I applaud him for that.
I doubt that really is the case. It's more of a 'Zoe is not queen anymore and Wren doesn't like Ed' situation, I think.
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Wow, let's think IN CHARACTER for a moment. Forest is a huge, fertile island. Forest can send food to it's allies. Forest contains huge magical potential, and from an In-Character perspective, it has more than it's OOC members.

Wow, isn't it fun to think from a Roleplaying point of view as opposed to game mechanics?
Forest probably has more then any other kingdom out there.

Forest isn't a colony of other kingdoms. It's a fully functional state which has been around for a long time. Longer then Dustari and Zormite.

As for actual IC Imaginary players
Dustari has a good bit, a lot of the citizenry died in Ackbar... but most left after Ackbar.

Zormite has few, The Zormite colony was a military outpost made so that the human kingdoms couldn't surpass them. More people would've stayed in the old lands then would've gone to the new lands.

Samurai has a few, same situation with the Zormites. They would've stayed behind.

Pirates, ARR... they left after Ackbar chasing the Dustarians.

Forest, always been there... had years of peace to grow.
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Wow, let's think IN CHARACTER for a moment. Forest is a huge, fertile island. Forest can send food to it's allies. Forest contains huge magical potential, and from an In-Character perspective, it has more than it's OOC members.

Wow, isn't it fun to think from a Roleplaying point of view as opposed to game mechanics?
It is fun to think from a roleplaying point of view over game mechanics, especially when the mechanics tend to be skewed and flawed.

I am curious though, how would you tend to resolve 'differences of opinion' in roleplayed conflicts?
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It is fun to think from a roleplaying point of view over game mechanics, especially when the mechanics tend to be skewed and flawed.

I am curious though, how would you tend to resolve 'differences of opinion' in roleplayed conflicts?
RP Administrator.

Or a break dancing competition.
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Or a break dancing competition.
Oh you better bring it, cause its on.

I was thinking west side story dance off, but...How do you get an impartial RP Administrator? Or those whom stand to loose to abide by what they feel is a wrong RP Administrator? I am kinda pushing the topic only because I think it would be good to resolve it at some point, I think GK really suffers for a lack of how to do wars and conflicts in general.
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Cute but it doesn't explain how you think that you get to be a duke after having been kicked out by the leaders of that kingdom.
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Yes it does.
You know when you get kicked out of a kingdom you are not any longer a member of that kingdom, especially when no one in that kingdom wants you there.

What do you think makes Zurk so special that he gets special rules?
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Oh you better bring it, cause its on.

I was thinking west side story dance off, but...How do you get an impartial RP Administrator? Or those whom stand to loose to abide by what they feel is a wrong RP Administrator? I am kinda pushing the topic only because I think it would be good to resolve it at some point, I think GK really suffers for a lack of how to do wars and conflicts in general.
You get Stefan to finally appoint an RP Admin.

Like he should have done when the server went public.

Even if they're only job is to say- yes, that can happen or no that can't.
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In Wren's defense, you can at times have a bit of 'anxious father syndome' when it comes to Zormite, and I don't think there is any dislike - just its a bit frustrating when you get anxious over some of the smaller changes. I don't think there is any PSing going on.
No, I've heard alot more than she has said to me personally by 2nd hand accounts and AIM copy-pastes. She doesnt like me. Even threatened to excommunicate me from my own Family once while talking to somebody, I think.


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I just think Zen, sometimes you jump the gun and assume the worst. For instance, this affair has nothing to do with the blacklist, its about Zurk's actions in the past and recent present towards Zormite and many people in Dustari.
I still think its fair to critisize Zormite, but you should find out and understand the details before jumping to conclusions.
I asked Gyrant to explain himself before I went into anything, and he blamed it on a blacklist issue which I've admitted I am still confused about a little, because he wasnt exactly clear about it in his post.

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Zormite's blacklist hasn't been updated for quite a while now - you can see that because the grammar and spelling I use in it is horrible. And hey, guess what? There's no freaking Zurkiba on Zormite's blacklist, nor on Dustari's.

Congratulations Zormite Dictators! You've proven to be ignorant once again!
Nah, Wren unstickied that a long time ago and never maintained it, she updates a seperate blacklist. When it was unstickied I guess it became unofficial, dunno, but as you can see I was the last person to update that blacklist (check last edit date at bottom of the post). There is another Zormite blacklist that is more updated somewhere, I'm sure. I think I've even seen a longer more recent blacklist, myself, but it was made after my time.

You gotta give Wren more credit than that lol, if you went by that blacklist than your saying that there was never a problem with anybody -ever- during the entire length of time since I was the one maintaining a blacklist. Of course they used a different one, the only difference is I wanted mine to be more public.
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You know when you get kicked out of a kingdom you are not any longer a member of that kingdom, especially when no one in that kingdom wants you there.
You know that a Duke is a title, right? And that someone who is English from nationality can be a Duke?

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What do you think makes Zurk so special that he gets special rules?
Why do you assume this? As stated above, this comment of yours is total bias. You're losing credibility with every post if you go on like this.
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You know that a Duke is a title, right? And that someone who is English from nationality can be a Duke?


Why do you assume this? As stated above, this comment of yours is total bias. You're losing credibility with every post if you go on like this.
I was and still am in Dustari, I know when was kicked out, when he told me specifically didn't want to come back (because of the zormite alliance), and when he was absent for such a long time.

We aren't talking about England, we are talking about ranks and positions within a graal kingdom. If you want a high rank, you do the work associated with that rank, both of which Zurk abandoned and his position was filled by active people.

I don't care if Ed says he's a duke now, that is his choice and he can do that, but for him to claim he was somehow a duke the whole time, and that his lands were never abandoned, and that he can equate abusing his global tag to being the only one in the entire kingdom of Dustari roleplaying 'right' that he is some celebrated hero of dustari - sorry, he is full of it.

He claims he was never exiled, yet he had a refugee tag in another kingdom before getting kicked out of there too.

The only way Zurk could even consider getting away with this really dumb idea that he has aways been a Duke and never left is to have to have special rules apply to him - and there are none that do.

Hey, you were in Dustari a long time ago too - maybe this way its all everyone else's faults you were removed and you can claim you are still and always were in Dustari - its just everyone else that has been in error.
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We aren't talking about England, we are talking about ranks and positions within a graal kingdom. If you want a high rank, you do the work associated with that rank, both of which Zurk abandoned and his position was filled by active people.
I'm sorry, I abruptly ended that line because of some strange loop in my mind. What I ment to say was:
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He claims he was never exiled, yet he had a refugee tag in another kingdom before getting kicked out of there too.
I doubt the choice of which rank or tag Zurkiba wanted was left to him. Someone gives him a rank, so if he wants to give him the rank of garbageman there isn't much Zurkiba can change about that.

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The only way Zurk could even consider getting away with this really dumb idea that he has aways been a Duke and never left is to have to have special rules apply to him - and there are none that do.
Could you be so kind to show me some text file or webpage with all rules? Because else, you don't have any evidence.

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Hey, you were in Dustari a long time ago too - maybe this way its all everyone else's faults you were removed and you can claim you are still and always were in Dustari - its just everyone else that has been in error.
I never was removed.
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I'm sorry, I abruptly ended that line because of some strange loop in my mind. What I ment to say was:
"And that someone who is English from nationality can be a Duke in France?"
Perhaps, it would depend on the leading authorities on Dukes in France to decide that.
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I doubt the choice of which rank or tag Zurkiba wanted was left to him. Someone gives him a rank, so if he wants to give him the rank of garbageman there isn't much Zurkiba can change about that.
He did choose to join the other kingdom and adopt a new rank.
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Could you be so kind to show me some text file or webpage with all rules? Because else, you don't have any evidence.
Uh, you're joking right? Are you saying you believe if say, a Paladin is caught scamming and is kicked out of a kingdom, he can run around abusing a global tag to appear as a paladin and claim that everyone in his former kingdom is just 'roleplaying badly' and that he is still a member - that this would somehow be considered a good example of being part of a kingdom?
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I never was removed.
Well I don't recall that much about your time in Dustari, sorry if I was mistaken. You have to see how though, given Zurk's view that players cannot ever be removed from a kingdom, unless that player agrees to leave and later doesn't change his mind - that it is impossible to remove scammers, or demote people who don't carry out their rank's responsibilities. The irony is he likes to boast how as Erik he lead forest with an iron hand and kicked people out left and right that did anything out of line. Now he is saying its not ever possible to kick anyone out of any kingdom, for any reason.
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Perhaps, it would depend on the leading authorities on Dukes in France to decide that
Probably not.

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He did choose to join the other kingdom and adopt a new rank.
So? I bet there are tons of examples out there of royalty and aristocraty who were forced out of their kingdom, got a job as officer or whatever in the army of someone else, and later returned to their kingdom with the same ranks.

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Uh, you're joking right? Are you saying you believe if say, a Paladin is caught scamming and is kicked out of a kingdom, he can run around abusing a global tag to appear as a paladin and claim that everyone in his former kingdom is just 'roleplaying badly' and that he is still a member - that this would somehow be considered a good example of being part of a kingdom?
That's something quite different.

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You have to see how though, given Zurk's view that players cannot ever be removed from a kingdom, unless that player agrees to leave and later doesn't change his mind - that it is impossible to remove scammers, or demote people who don't carry out their rank's responsibilities. The irony is he likes to boast how as Erik he lead forest with an iron hand and kicked people out left and right that did anything out of line. Now he is saying its not ever possible to kick anyone out of any kingdom, for any reason.
That's different too. I don't think Zurk ever said he wasn't kicked out of Dustari, but that nobody took his title.
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if he abandoned his lands and then goes to another kingdom then he abandones his lands, they should have been up for grabs, why did someone not take them?also this has gone way out of hand.
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if he abandoned his lands and then goes to another kingdom then he abandones his lands, they should have been up for grabs, why did someone not take them?also this has gone way out of hand.
He did have his lands officially removed from him and divided to other nobles, we even had another Duke in that region that was his successor. He just wants to say "oh that was just bad roleplaying cuz i r 2 leet 2 evR get kicked out in a good rp I R war hearo"
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That's different too. I don't think Zurk ever said he wasn't kicked out of Dustari, but that nobody took his title.
But his title was taken and we had Dukes who lead after him in the Borea area. His Grace the Duke of Borea Raziel Venmyr followed after Zurkiba as the reigning Duke of the Northern Lands.

Also, he is saying he was always a Duke and always a member, and still a Duke, and that it was everyone else who was wrong not to roleplay with him as if he was a member when he was clearly not and just abusing a global tag camped in the castle, against the objections of gk staff.
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But his title was taken and we had Dukes who lead after him in the Borea area. His Grace the Duke of Borea Raziel Venmyr followed after Zurkiba as the reigning Duke of the Northern Lands.
What was Zurkiba's exact title? Because else Raziel just took Zurk's duties. Also, why was he kicked and were his titles taken from him?
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What was Zurkiba's exact title? Because else Raziel just took Zurk's duties. Also, why was he kicked and were his titles taken from him?
Zurk's exact title was 'Duke' and Raziel's exact title was 'Duke' and they ruled the same areas. We required Dukes to manage garrisons for their towns, and Zurk was long kicked out and not managing anything for anyone. We restructured the Duke lands into three major areas, centered around the three major towns.
At one point, while he was still not a member and not playing GK at all, on the forums he tried to give his lands (ic, as you can't give lands that are your character's away ooc) to Chris, leader of Forest. He was reminded that all lands of a kingdom are first and foremost the kingdom's lands, and that even if his title was still honored, which was long since derelict, transfer to a foreign power of the majority of lands in Dustari would never be tolerated.

I am curious how many celebrated 'war heros' try to transfer lands to foreign powers...it doesn't seem right to me - that must mean I am bad at roleplaying, since it makes perfect sense to Zurk.
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if we go back into fish you will never touch the sand of another island. either way I would like to see the black list.
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if we go back into fish you will never touch the sand of another island. either way I would like to see the black list.
Zormite is already a fish kingdom.
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