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Old 03-25-2005, 09:52 PM
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He can edit Zormite's blacklist just the same. The issue was that it sounded as if he was trying to start a war because he didnt like how another kingdom was managing their own blacklist, which should be a sovreign right to each kingdom -- so I dont see how your example correlates (Since Graynt is not twisting or bending anything, its his response to Ed's actions which is the center of debate). And I'm still not clear as to whether it was Dustari's blacklist Graynt was mad at Dustari for, or Zormite's blacklist Graynt was mad at Dustari for.
Sorry Zen, its just Zurk's history with Zormite that I think is causing the main stife. Not anything to do with any blacklists. Personally I wouldn't go to war over the fellow, but I understand why it bothers Zormite so much that he is in Dustari.


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What amazes me is that you actually believe yourself, and that somewhere along the road you started to dislike me, and I still havent figured out why. I did not judge you as being the ProjectShifter type: you hold grudges even after people appologize the best they can and try to burry the hatchet over and over. You just didnt like my input, ever, even when it was in private.
In Wren's defense, you can at times have a bit of 'anxious father syndome' when it comes to Zormite, and I don't think there is any dislike - just its a bit frustrating when you get anxious over some of the smaller changes. I don't think there is any PSing going on.
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Look, I'm all for Graynt being Dictator. I was really pleased with his opening announcement, it gave me a stellar first impression, and I knew from then he was capable. His decision to break ties with Dustari so early on is a topic well worth examining, and I'm sure Graynt felt the same way (that its a topic well worth discussing) or else he wouldnt have made a open thread about it in this forum where he knew his position would more than likely be questioned by at least a few. Every good leader benefits from criticism, and from opinions from multiple points of view. Thats a lesson some people figure out....and others dont so much, Wren.

And I'm not trying to "remotely lead" anything, I just chime in when topics come up that I have strong feelings for, thats unfair to get pissed at me for that. You have to understand where I'm comming from.
I just think Zen, sometimes you jump the gun and assume the worst. For instance, this affair has nothing to do with the blacklist, its about Zurk's actions in the past and recent present towards Zormite and many people in Dustari.
I still think its fair to critisize Zormite, but you should find out and understand the details before jumping to conclusions.
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