The time has come...

[Discharge]

This war is really about a determine man who just entered the leadership of Zormite and wants to conquer Dustari. A true ally would have discussed their concern peacefully before making any abrupt attacks.

The Paladins spoke to the Dictator and we agreed to meet on a small Island for peace talks, while we were discussing the concerns of Zormite, the Dictator orders his men to steal our boats and leave us stranded. Ironically, the kingdom of Zormite has transformed itself into an Astri type of kingdom. The very same kingdom that they despise and because Zurkiba once led that kingdom, they feel his intentions will always be to conquer. The whole Sagesun family is against Zurkiba, however let me remind you Sagesuns, your actions from the past to dethrone King Tseng was wrong. You conquered the throne of King Tseng. King Kamuii had his periods of inactivity but we never dethroned him. The ruling Sagesun monarchy had their inactivity periods also but they were not dethroned. I sense evil and greed.

[busyrobot]

Originally Posted by Discharge

...your actions from the past to dethrone King Tseng was wrong. You conquered the throne of King Tseng. King Kamuii had his periods of inactivity but we never dethroned him. The ruling Sagesun monarchy had their inactivity periods also but they were not dethroned. I sense evil and greed.

There is no way to dethrone another king as the result of an RP war unless its part of a storyline the 'vanquished' wants to play out, so other than the principle of the matter there isn't anything that can be gained.

I personally wouldn't go to war over Zurk, he will never change but people will never trust him enough nor will he ever find the time to be an actual threat.

What bothers me though Antonio , is that I have always trusted you and considered you a friend, and yet so it appears you have always considered me evil and greedy because of the debacle with lance? I worked exceptionally hard to work things out with lance for well over six months, in which time he made specific promises to become active or step down. I stopped more than one attempt to dethrone him and took a lot of anger from good Dustarians because I defended him so long. But whatever you think of all that happened, that doesn't bother me as does the time of 'false friendship' throughout the times we have worked together. I may never have been a Paladin, but I have always spoke what I felt was true when it mattered, and never spoke false kindness to someone I felt was greedy or evil.

I don't like the idea of Dustari and Zormite going to war at all, or that either nation is so quick to the blade on the other. Whatever the will of the two nations' be, so be it. I'll be tending to my cabin and firewood, but I won't be sharpening any blades.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by busyrobot

There is no way to dethrone another king as the result of an RP war unless its part of a storyline the 'vanquished' wants to play out, so other than the principle of the matter there isn't anything that can be gained.

I personally wouldn't go to war over Zurk, he will never change but people will never trust him enough nor will he ever find the time to be an actual threat.

What bothers me though Antonio , is that I have always trusted you and considered you a friend, and yet so it appears you have always considered me evil and greedy because of the debacle with lance? I worked exceptionally hard to work things out with lance for well over six months, in which time he made specific promises to become active or step down. I stopped more than one attempt to dethrone him and took a lot of anger from good Dustarians because I defended him so long. But whatever you think of all that happened, that doesn't bother me as does the time of 'false friendship' throughout the times we have worked together. I may never have been a Paladin, but I have always spoke what I felt was true when it mattered, and never spoke false kindness to someone I felt was greedy or evil.

I don't like the idea of Dustari and Zormite going to war at all, or that either nation is so quick to the blade on the other. Whatever the will of the two nations' be, so be it. I'll be tending to my cabin and firewood, but I won't be sharpening any blades.

I beleive Antonio was refering to the OTHER Sagesun. You know, the one who actually was a malevolent, meta-gaming, bias queen forged in the mold of inactivity that she gained the throne for vanquishing.

You know, that one.

[Discharge]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

I beleive Antonio was refering to the OTHER Sagesun. You know, the one who actually was a malevolent, meta-gaming, bias queen forged in the mold of inactivity that she gained the throne for vanquishing.

You know, that one.

Yes. Busyrobot, your not evil.

[busyrobot]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

I beleive Antonio was refering to the OTHER Sagesun. You know, the one who actually was a malevolent, meta-gaming, bias queen forged in the mold of inactivity that she gained the throne for vanquishing.

You know, that one.

Check your history - you were against Tseng yourself - and if you or Antonio condemn Zoe's part in the confrontation you are a hypocrite not to condemn me as well.

If you insist to forget the work she did do for Dustari let me at least remind you that we stepped down rather see continued in-activity from Dustari's leaders. Larrien was the last leader in Dustari's history to step down of his own free choice. MarkB...was removed by Lance and Kamuii with Stefan's help....Kamuii passed the throne to Lance after he was forced to resign in the face of a near 100% no confidence (understandable, Kamuii didn't have Gold), and Lance was removed forcibly by myself and Zoe when Dustarians like you and the vast majority was tired of his latest period of 6 months of inactivity.

When Zoe and I could not be active, we stepped down and Ana was crowned, and when she resigned Zoe came back to help, and after a short time talked me into returning too because she could not be active enough on her own. Then after tying to be active and not succeeding well enough, we stepped down a second time without a single member calling for us to. She even was the one who came to me and suggested we step down this last time because neither of us could be active enough to do the jobs justice.

Who the heck takes a twisted convoluted route to power and greed by resigning when they already have it?

The fact of the matter is you are the one perpetrating an attack on her in malevolence and with bias are looking for ways to twist her actions to suit your own opinion of her. There was a time when she stood up for you when others would speak ill - though definately long past.

I am not asking you to get along with her but really - if you are going to slander her try not to use something with such twisted irony as greedy power grabbing - she stepped down because she did not want to see Dustari without active leadership and of her own free will.