A Comedy of Species

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Gryffon's not "special"

He's a member of a race that doesn't appear to exist. Seems pretty special to me.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

He's a member of a race that doesn't appear to exist. Seems pretty special to me.

As opposed to Shawn, the fox-thingy? Why should we be limited to just Elf, Zormite, Dwarf, or Human? How did these races come to be in the first place?

People made them up.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

As opposed to Shawn, the fox-thingy?

I did not say that you were the only one.

Why should we be limited to just Elf, Zormite, Dwarf, or Human?

Because those are the only creatures that have any presence in the world.

Why do you need your character to be a winged vultureperson? The most believable backstory is the one with greatest parsimony.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

I did not say that you were the only one.



Because those are the only creatures that have any presence in the world.

Why do you need your character to be a winged vultureperson? The most believable backstory is the one with greatest parsimony.

And why do they HAVE a presence? Because people MADE them have presence. Not that it matters. This is neither here nor there. This is a forum for official FOREST business in an official FOREST forum. If you wish to continue this debate, please do so in the general Kingdoms forum.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

And why do they HAVE a presence? Because people MADE them have presence

Is that your goal with the bird people? Seems unlikely!

Again: Why does he need to be a member of some newly invented species? Does it allow anything that wouldn't otherwise have been possible? Does it make sense that he's the only one of his kind in the world? Is it even feasible that his race could've evolved from vultures? Your character is not believable, and that's a pretty fatal flaw when roleplaying.

This is a forum for official FOREST business in an official FOREST forum. If you wish to continue this debate, please do so in the general Kingdoms forum.

I'm hardly off topic. If we're asking people to propose backstories then it makes sense to have some discussion on what kinds are acceptable. Still, if you wish to move it to that forum then I guess I will comply. Just make the thread and I'll switch over.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Is that your goal with the bird people? Seems unlikely!

Again: Why does he need to be a member of some newly invented species? Does it allow anything that wouldn't otherwise have been possible? Does it make sense that he's the only one of his kind in the world? Is it even feasible that his race could've evolved from vultures? Your character is not believable, and that's a pretty fatal flaw when roleplaying.



I'm hardly off topic. If we're asking people to propose backstories then it makes sense to have some discussion on what kinds are acceptable. Still, if you wish to move it to that forum then I guess I will comply. Just make the thread and I'll switch over.

By that same logic, why be anything other than human? Does being an Elf give me any more options? Only culturally, I suppose. Does being a Daveon give me any new options? Again, it allows me to make a character from a cultural perspective. Being a Daveon allowed me to juxtapose Gryffon's internal hatred of himself with his quest for serenity with Mytriism. THAT is why I created the Daveons.

As for their origin, they are vulture-like in appearance and tendancies, but I don't think I put that they were descended from vultures in so many words. A panda may look like a bear, but they're certainly not closely related enough that you'd call it a bear.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

By that same logic, why be anything other than human?

Because the other established races have certain traits that define a character - traits that are universally recognised. You don't need to explain your character's origins and traditions and tendencies every time you introduce him.

Again and again: Believability is closely linked to parsimony! Do you intend to let everybody invent their own species? To the point where there are no two members of the same race?

As for their origin, they are vulture-like in appearance and tendancies, but I don't think I put that they were descended from vultures in so many words

Well, not since you edited your post.