Spreading the love for Valentines. - Page 5

maximus_asinus · #**161** 03-09-2005, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link

This whole staff strike makes me lol. Storm, you have some people to fire.

No, the Administrators of each respected division has people to fire. In the case of LAT, you maybe right.

p2p_Sir_Link · #**162** 03-09-2005, 03:19 AM

GCs who need to be fired:
Sting
Kitten
Kat

LATs:
None, there appear to be no LATs, thanks to Selflon

FAQs:
Fire all these newbs, WTF, a 10 hourer FAQ. Fabulous.

Evil_Trunks · #**163** 03-09-2005, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link

GCs who need to be fired:
Sting
Kitten
Kat

Kat isn't a staff person on Classic

p2p_Sir_Link · #**164** 03-09-2005, 10:43 PM

=\, Good then, fire Sting and Kitten though, =\

jake13jake · #**165** 03-09-2005, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link

=\, Good then, fire Sting and Kitten though, =\

But I love Kitten

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p2p_Sir_Link · #**166** 03-10-2005, 01:24 AM

But kitten is striking.

maximus_asinus · #**167** 03-14-2005, 05:34 PM

Thread Revival:
Classic restored the original stats. That is a giant step in the right direction.
Not items, just kills/deaths.

jake13jake · #**168** 03-15-2005, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Thread Revival:
Classic restored the original stats. That is a giant step in the right direction.
Not items, just kills/deaths.

The big things bothering me are the bushes and the movement.

I'm just wondering, how many think it would be better to not even be able to slide by a sqrt8 tile width instead of having such buggy diaganol movement?

One of my movement scripts gets that far at least. The movement is also more precise than the default (instead of having ##.9899353434 for your x it would be a multiple of 1/16. The biggest of differences is that my movement doesn't support speeds with a 20 tiles/sec or greater... I think, although having so fast a speed can hurt the smoothness of it, and I think that would be a bug in the default movement too. (Just curious, I already know that Storm would never use my movement, and all I have scripted is the movement, save jumping and hurt modes, and gani controls and sword).

I haven't investigated bushes entirely, because updateboard is extremely strange. I made a script that just destroys the bush, and the bush acts like a default bush for no reason. Then again, I could do things kindof backwards of what the current system is (but not on gmap), now that I think of it. Since updateboard is so wierd I can just putnpc, setimg of the slashed bush, draw it under the player, and setshape2 to walkable tiles. Then there wouldn't be so much lag when entering levels, unless there are a lot of bushes slashed. If the stupid clientside updateboard thing didn't drop items I would just have to figure out how to cache the x,y of the bush so that it could be redrawn. I would also not want to redraw the bush when someone is standing on it, and hmmm... I just realized that glove strength could be built into rocks, though not so easily with this method.

maximus_asinus · #**169** 03-16-2005, 01:05 AM

why couldn't you make the sword detect the bush tiles and have it update board via this? I am not the best scripter, and I can see how checking each time you used the sword could lag, but I doubt it'd be noticeable.

p2p_Sir_Link · #**170** 03-16-2005, 01:18 AM

This thread died like classic guys. Get over it.

jake13jake · #**171** 03-16-2005, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

why couldn't you make the sword detect the bush tiles and have it update board via this? I am not the best scripter, and I can see how checking each time you used the sword could lag, but I doubt it'd be noticeable.

Simply, you can't updateboard on a gmap.

NPC Code:



if (keypressed) {

  this.test_x = int(playerx + 1.0) + 2*vecx(playerdir);

  this.test_y = int(playery + 1.5) + 2*vecy(playerdir);

  if (keydown(5)) {

    if (tiles[this.test_x,this.test_y] == 2 && tiles[this.test_x+1,this.test_y] == 3 && tiles[this.test_x,this.test_y+1] == 18 && tiles[this.test_x+1,this.test_y+1] == 19) {

      tiles[this.test_x,this.test_y]     = 677;

      tiles[this.test_x+1,this.test_y]   = 678;

      tiles[this.test_x,this.test_y+1]   = 693;

      tiles[this.test_x+1,this.test_y+1] = 694;

      putleaps 0,this.test_x,this.test_y;

      updateboard this.test_x,this.test_y,2,2;  

    }

  }

}

Put a //#CLIENTSIDE above that and it mimics the default bush script. It will drop rupees and items on it's own. Not Classic's rupees but the default bush drop items. It will slash the bush for everyone, and the bush will reappear on it's own.

All of these automatic things, they shouldn't be happening. I should have to write this serverside to get the bush to be slashed for everyone. I should have to write special code for the items to drop. I should have to cache the bush locations so that I can redraw them.

Now, the clientside updateboard updating for everyone isn't exactly a bad thing, this helps a lot. But all of the other stuff screws me up.

maximus_asinus · #**172** 03-16-2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake

Simply, you can't updateboard on a gmap.

Oh GMAP, I hate you so.

csod123 · #**173** 03-16-2005, 05:41 PM

you all can ***** about anything can't you.

maximus_asinus · #**174** 03-16-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by csod123

you all can ***** about anything can't you.

Yes I can, now shut up.

jake13jake · #**175** 03-17-2005, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Oh GMAP, I hate you so.

Hmm... however, I just realized something. -If- tiles can be recognized on a gmap at all, they could probably be backwards scripted so that it puts an npc of the slashed bush image and setshape2s to a walkable tile and destroys itself on a timeout. If I had preference, I'd make it so that nothing could respawn if you were standing on it (like the pots and getting stuck in the corner of Vangel JFs).

p2p_Sir_Link · #**176** 03-19-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by csod123

you all can ***** about anything can't you.

Maximus and I would be working hard on classic, if Selflon was active to hire/Storm would hire some people.

jake13jake · #**177** 03-21-2005, 01:00 AM

I'm so sad that there is nothing interesting to talk about recently. There has been nothing happening on Classic. Absolutely nothing.

p2p_Sir_Link · #**178** 03-21-2005, 08:19 PM

This is trueness. I'm on the verge of quitting and working full time on my server.

maximus_asinus · #**179** 03-21-2005, 08:26 PM

Storm was hinting at a new addition he was working on. He wasn't very specific, but from what I was able to pry out of him was that it was a hangout of some sort, based on old levels. Hope you enjoy it.

Minoc · #**180** 03-21-2005, 10:10 PM

Hopefully the old Graal Castle.

Unpredlctable · #**181** 03-21-2005, 11:29 PM

Hopefully anything.

p2p_Sir_Link · #**182** 03-22-2005, 03:21 PM

Are we now beleiving what storm says?

jake13jake · #**183** 03-24-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link

Are we now beleiving what storm says?

All I believe is that you misspelled a word.

Evil_Trunks · #**184** 03-24-2005, 10:19 PM

why do you guys keep bumping this old topic?

might as well make a new topic called "*****ing and moaning about classic" and put comments there

Minoc · #**185** 03-24-2005, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link

Are we now beleiving what storm says?

I do.
I've known Storm for a long time, he's one of the most trustable players I know.

Even if you disagree with Storm's vision of Classic, you can't say he's not doing his best to improve the server.

maximus_asinus · #**186** 03-24-2005, 11:18 PM

who's definition of improve are we using?

Minoc · #**187** 03-24-2005, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

who's definition of improve are we using?

Improve as in adding things that would satisfy the players.

Minoc · #**188** 03-24-2005, 11:28 PM

Ok.. all is fine but one thing I've just noticed.
There seem to be new PK rooms, which are exactly like the old PK Cave.
It really ruins the value of kills count, and the classic feeling.

maximus_asinus · #**189** 03-24-2005, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoc

Improve as in adding things that would satisfy the players.

I'm confused, when you're satisfied, you complain? because thats what people are doing now.

Minoc · #**190** 03-24-2005, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

I'm confused, when you're satisfied, you complain? because thats what people are doing now.

No, but he's TRYING to satisfy the players.
You can disagree with his ideas without claiming he's lazy, corrupt, etc'.

maximus_asinus · #**191** 03-25-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoc

No, but he's TRYING to satisfy the players.
You can disagree with his ideas without claiming he's lazy, corrupt, etc'.

I can question his motives as he is making classic in his own view, and not listening to player input.

Polo · #**192** 03-25-2005, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

I can question his motives as he is making classic in his own view, and not listening to player input.

Simply untrue. In my own view, we wouldn't have the PK rooms, as like Minoc, I think it devalues what a kill is worth, also would probably be using the built in movement, and a whole load of other things would be different. Realise that I have to balance what the players want, what is good in terms of making a robust server, and then try and mould it all into one coherent ball of pleasure for you all. Its simply not possible to please 100% of the people, 100% of the time, but that doesn't stop me trying.

maximus_asinus · #**193** 03-25-2005, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Polo

also would probably be using the built in movement

so the players asked for the custom movement system?

I think your goal should be pleasing atleast 75% of the server, and I doubt you are doing that much.