Its Time We Take A Stand

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Gambet

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I just wish I could justify banning him, only so we wouldn't have to see him repeatedly be ignorant.

Everytime someone repeats theirself it seems that you turn to that cursed quote of yours. Just because they're repeating themself doesn't mean they have nothing to say, infact - if they're repeating theirself they likely have something very important to say, and you're just missing it. It's a shame those people have to suffer to repeat themself to ignorant eyes.

The point is very clear, Gambet. If Bob, or Evan, or whatever his stupid name is, gets jealous THAT easily than you haven't discussed each other's opinions, and ideals enough to see that, and he is not your friend. Use your own methods to test trust. When you go swimming do you put a toe or a finger in the water, first, or do you cannon ball in? If you cannon ball in, and find flesh-melting tempratures too hot it's not the water's fault... it's yours.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I just wish I could justify banning him, only so we wouldn't have to see him repeatedly be ignorant.

Everytime someone repeats theirself it seems that you turn to that cursed quote of yours. Just because they're repeating themself doesn't mean they have nothing to say, infact - if they're repeating theirself they likely have something very important to say, and you're just missing it. It's a shame those people have to suffer to repeat themself to ignorant eyes.

The point is very clear, Gambet. If Bob, or Evan, or whatever his stupid name is, gets jealous THAT easily than you haven't discussed each other's opinions, and ideals enough to see that, and he is not your friend. Use your own methods to test trust. When you go swimming do you put a toe or a finger in the water, first, or do you cannon ball in? If you cannon ball in, and find flesh-melting tempratures too hot it's not the water's fault... it's yours.

THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL FAIL TO UNDERSTAND..


All you say is "Its your fault"...well...yes, its there fault, BUT CREATING SOMETHING LIKE I SUGGESTED WOULD END SCAMMING.

Give the players a way to lend items without worrying about being scammed, and the problems will be solved.

All you're doing now is sitting back, ridiculing the players, and saying its their fault. I agree, it is their fault, but why is it so hard to do something like I have suggested?

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Gambet

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We don't have a magical wand we can wave to enstate these measures, and even if we did - what gurantees they would work? I haven't actually read them, but I doubt they would work because you don't have much experience in the matters... and I somehow doubt you're another Confucius.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

We don't have a magical wand we can wave to enstate these measures, and even if we did - what gurantees they would work? I haven't actually read them, but I doubt they would work because you don't have much experience in the matters... and I somehow doubt you're another Confucius.

You havnt even read my suggestion and you're here rambling about things you have no clue of? How very wise of you.

Its amazing how someone could talk so much smack in a thread and not even know what has been said in the thread. This would be considered bashing, would it not? Either way, you are not doing a very good job at it


Lance...

Just read what I wrote in the post right above yours...it says everything.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Gambet

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I'm very aware of how scamming works, which is what I'm discussing. I'm not discussing your method of prevention. Watch your wee little tongue, or I will pry it from your mouth and wear is as a neck tie.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I'm very aware of how scamming works, which is what I'm discussing. I'm not discussing your method of prevention. Watch your wee little tongue, or I will pry it from your mouth and wear is as a neck tie.

Now you make threats? What type of role model are you exactly? Its amazing how some of the staff, which represent the server, act.

ZH, this has nothing to do with how scamming works, it has to do with a method to prevent it, which is what we people want.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Now you make threats?

Threats? Eek, where? I simply said I would borrow your (wee) tongue for an undefined period of time and wear it as a neck tie!

What type of role model are you exactly?

I wasn't aware that I was one, but if I am one; I am a poor role model! (just ask my parents)

Its amazing how some of the staff, which represent the server, act.

Honestly, I know... just look at that mean Vlad.

ZH, this has nothing to do with how scamming works, it has to do with a method to prevent it, which is what we people want.

Ah, my appologies, I was under the impression that this thread was about scamming.

[dNeonb]

On Graal Kingdoms we have a class called "Thief". If we'd make scamming illegal then this class would have nothing to do. For Staffs is scamming illegal. You need to know what people you can truest and who not. Like Lance said this is no GraalOnline's business what people do with their items and what not.

The kingdoms, there players are in can say it is illegal but then they have to do something and not the staff. Scamming is a kind of RP but if noone wants to RP it won't work.

Handle scamming is no job of the Policeguys on GK becasue scamming is legal, and maybe staff cares about it but can not do something because it is illegal.

By the way, if you have a problem with Zero Hour as staffmember of this server then don't talk about it here. Talk to Lance or me in eMail, Forum PM or game PM. Maybe Stefan if you want. But the forum is not the correct place for it.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Gambet

THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL FAIL TO UNDERSTAND..


All you say is "Its your fault"...well...yes, its there fault, BUT CREATING SOMETHING LIKE I SUGGESTED WOULD END SCAMMING.

Give the players a way to lend items without worrying about being scammed, and the problems will be solved.

Originally Posted by Gambet

If these trading tables were made, then I am 100% sure that those who know about it will in fact use it while lending items. Those who dont, well, its their faults if anything happens.

Which is it?

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Lance

Which is it?

I didnt think it was hard to understand.


What I meant:

Those who use the new trading tables I suggested wouldnt have to worry about being scammed, but those who are scammed because they didnt use it, well, then it would be their faults. I highly doubt anyone would lend anything to anyone without using these trading tables if they were to lend someone their items.


Just make SOME way to be able to lend items without worrying about being scammed.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Just make SOME way to be able to lend items without worrying about being scammed.

That could be handy. Perhaps a type of player trade where the person who has the item specifies a time when the items should be returned to their account, and then it shows the person accepting the items and if they agree to the time they will accept the trade (and the items being traded cannot leave the person's account while they're being loaned). I think that, if GK did this, it would be the only game I know of which has done this.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

That could be handy. Perhaps a type of player trade where the person who has the item specifies a time when the items should be returned to their account, and then it shows the person accepting the items and if they agree to the time they will accept the trade (and the items being traded cannot leave the person's account while they're being loaned). I think that, if GK did this, it would be the only game I know of which has done this.

Thats EXACTLY what I suggested . Read my darn first post.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Thats EXACTLY what I suggested . Read my darn first post.

I still think you're a dumby.