Its Time We Take A Stand

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Lance...this is exactly what I meant when I said that staff are loosing interest. You dont play GK anymore, so you wouldnt know how things have changed player wise. You're saying that you should loan stuff to untrustworthy people? Dude....those whom people consider 'trustworthy' are the ones scamming.

Do I have to know how "things have changed player wise"? Don't loan stuff to untrustworthy people. It's simple. I can't help it if people fail to make appropriate judgements of others.

Why is it that you staff must take the easy way out and say stuff like "dont loan stuff to untrustworthy people."

It certainly is not GraalOnline's business to control what people do with their items (as long as they are following the rules).

Did you even read my suggestion?

Yes, I did. I thought I made that blatantly obvious when I noted that the idea of server-controlled loans is reasonably laughable.

I dont see how scamming would be possible if you used my method.

There are several possibilities; I shall note the simplest - if your system was implemented but not used, it would actually be quite likely.

You cant tell who can be trusted and who cant be trusted anymore, and thats sad....real sad.

Then you suck at judging people. And you're right, it is quite sad.

Your best friend one day can be the one who scams you the next....

That person was not really your best friend, now were they?

its just how it is man,

Perhaps in your circle of people who suck at judging others and picking friends, but this is hardly an epidemic.

and if something isnt done, it will make everyone quit.

They should perhaps instead revise their criteria for selecting friends.

[SyLaTAC]

Originally Posted by Lance

Do I have to know how "things have changed player wise"? Don't loan stuff to untrustworthy people. It's simple. I can't help it if people fail to make appropriate judgements of others.



It certainly is not GraalOnline's business to control what people do with their items (as long as they are following the rules).



Yes, I did. I thought I made that blatantly obvious when I noted that the idea of server-controlled loans is reasonably laughable.



There are several possibilities; I shall note the simplest - if your system was implemented but not used, it would actually be quite likely.



Then you suck at judging people. And you're right, it is quite sad.



That person was not really your best friend, now were they?



Perhaps in your circle of people who suck at judging others and picking friends, but this is hardly an epidemic.



They should perhaps instead revise their criteria for selecting friends.

k lance let me borrow you kite shield ill give it back trust me =)


the only good global staff was PS milinko or how ever you spell it and Bjorn ZH sucks cuz hes mean to everyone and i hope somethings happen to him IRL
Lance doesnt know GK and should event off his items since he never plays anymore

[SyLaTAC]

Im posting as i am reading this Gambet it right i like his idea but the player should be replaced by a NPC and before you trade it will tell you how long you are trading for so someone doesnt get there items back in a year ZH should be fired

and why dont people like seeing horses on the table i find it reallllllllly funny lol

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by SyLaTAC

ZH should be fired

Originally Posted by SyLaTAC

and why dont people like seeing horses on the table i find it reallllllllly funny lol

Read these two quotes from SyLaTaC's post. Consider what I deal with daily. Consider what Stefan deals with daily; I pitty that man.

[SyLaTAC]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

Read these two quotes from SyLaTaC's post. Consider what I deal with daily. Consider what Stefan deals with daily; I pitty that man.

eh i have to agree it must somewhat suck to be Stefan

[SyLaTAC]

but Lance let me borrow your Kite shield ill give it back im your friend

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by SyLaTAC

but Lance let me borrow your Kite shield ill give it back im your friend

Stop double posting, and being stupid.

[Dach]

Originally Posted by SyLaTAC

Im posting as i am reading this Gambet it right i like his idea but the player should be replaced by a NPC and before you trade it will tell you how long you are trading for so someone doesnt get there items back in a year ZH should be fired

and why dont people like seeing horses on the table i find it reallllllllly funny lol

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Why are you people lending stuff anyways? Just don't lend crap that you don't want to lose.

[fireedragn]

Why the HELL are you asking the staff to waste time on implementing something that has already been addressed. Since the introduction of safe trade tables, it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to steal items directly.

Here's a good way to make sure that somebody won't steal your stuff: ask them to give you some items of the same value as the item you lent them. Then, if they do decide to dip out, you wont be completely screwed. If they don't agree to your proposal, then you know they aren't trustworthy.

I can't believe everyone is still talking about this. I mean...you GAVE the item to them, why should staff be held responsible for your stupidity? Next you'll be asking the staff to take away monsters' ability to attack. "OMG the monster killed me when I ran up to it!"

If you get scammed, it's your own damn fault. Deal with it.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by fireedragn

Why the HELL are you asking the staff to waste time on implementing something that has already been addressed. Since the introduction of safe trade tables, it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to steal items directly.

Here's a good way to make sure that somebody won't steal your stuff: ask them to give you some items of the same value as the item you lent them. Then, if they do decide to dip out, you wont be completely screwed. If they don't agree to your proposal, then you know they aren't trustworthy.

I can't believe everyone is still talking about this. I mean...you GAVE the item to them, why should staff be held responsible for your stupidity? Next you'll be asking the staff to take away monsters' ability to attack. "OMG the monster killed me when I ran up to it!"

If you get scammed, it's your own damn fault. Deal with it.

I'm starting to think you cant read. Let me say this loud and clearly

I DID NOT GET SCAMMED, I AM THINKING OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SCAMMED.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Gambet

I'm starting to think you cant read. Let me say this loud and clearly

I DID NOT GET SCAMMED, I AM THINKING OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SCAMMED.

He brings up a good point though.

If you are going to lend out your items you should ask for collateral until the items are returned.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by SyLaTAC

k lance let me borrow you kite shield ill give it back trust me =)

It's fairly obvious that you intend to scam me. Maybe this intensely witty trick would work on you, but I'm afraid that I'm nowhere near as gullible (or stupid).

the only good global staff was PS milinko or how ever you spell it and Bjorn
ZH sucks cuz hes mean to everyone and i hope somethings happen to him IRL

Oh, me too! I hope he wins the lottery. I think that would be nice.

Lance doesnt know GK

Wait just a minute, buddy. I've got ~2,000 hours there and served as one of the only two staff members there for an inordinately long amount of time, but I "don't know it"? You're sure I haven't picked anything up in all of that time?

and should event off his items since he never plays anymore

How is not playing often at all justification for eventing off items?

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Lance

Oh, me too! I hope he wins the lottery. I think that would be nice.

Thanks, that would be nice.