Its Time We Take A Stand

[Gambet]

SCAMMING

I am honestly 100% tired of this. Do you know what it is to be on a server and having to be scared to even drop some dias to prep one of your weapons with the thought that someone might come by and sweep them from you?, or the thought of a very good friend scamming you? It really sucks.

Scamming...I'M TIRED OF IT!

Does anyone know what was scammed today?

THE LIGHTNING SABER

That weapon is like 1 or 2 of a kind, and some poor girl got scammed today. The staff do absolutely nothing about scamming, except sit back and say its legal to scam. Legal to scam...what type of rule is that? The lightning saber doesnt even belong to me but I'm helping this girl as hard as I would if the sword were mines to try to get it back. I know that it wont be returned, but it really ticks me off. Something REALLY has to be done. What good are the GK Police f they will allow scamming?

Scamming is causing players to quit!

The account that scammed the lightning saber is:

littlerichie2

his partner in crime:

GenTso420

DO NOT TRUST THESE ACCOUNTS AT ALL!


Look, I see people getting scammed everyday, and it really saddens me to see that those scammed have nothing to do but to quit, and quit is what they end up doing. So many players are leaving because of scammers, and its really ridiculous.

Too many things are ruining GK right now, and nothing is being done about it.

My two favorite servers:

Zone
Graal Kingdoms

Zone is perfect, and GK use to be, but now, it seems that all staff have lost interest, and scammers are ruling the place. Something....ANYTHING....has to be done.

A WAY TO END SCAMMING

I think this will definately end all scamming between friends. Ok, this is how it works. There will be two sides of the table (like there is now), but the difference is, one side of the table will have a special symbol in the center of it, and the other side wont. This special symbol indicates the trade table leader. Now, this is how it works, when one person puts an item on the table, and both players accept, a new menu will show, where the table leader will set the following setting:

Time Before TradeBack:

Basically, the table leader sets a time, and after that time passes, whatever has been traded is traded back. So, if I want to show my friend my Ice Dagger, and I want to make sure he doesnt scam me, I would take him to this special trading room, I would set the time to like 3 minutes, and let him see it. When the 3 minutes are over, the items are traded back automatically.

NOTE: IF ONE OF THE TWO PLAYERS THAT TRADED IN THESE SPECIAL TRADING ROOMS LOGS OFF, THEN THE ITEMS WILL BE TRADED BACK INSTANTLY TO PREVENT THOSE LOGGING OFF SCAMMERS.

Now, after the table leader sets the time, a new window will appear for both players, and both players will either choose to accept or to decline the trade. If both users accept the trade, then the items are traded and the timer begins. If one of the traders accepts and the other declines, then the trade is ended and both players items are returned.

NOTE: THESE SPECIAL TRADE ROOMS ARE NOT TO BE USED FOR NORMAL TRADES.

EDIT: LETS SAY YOUR FRIEND LETS YOU BORROW ONE OF HIS/HER ITEM(S), IN ORDER TO PREVENT YOU FROM SELLING IT, MAKE IT SO THAT YOU CANNOT SELL ANY ITEMS THAT YOU GOT WHILE INSIDE THIS SPECIAL TRADING ROOM, SINCE ITS NOT REALLY YOURS, ONLY TEMPORARILY (UNTIL THE TIMER RUNS OUT).

This is the BEST way to prevent scamming that I can think of.


I really hope you all like this idea, I would really like to see it put into effect (that is, if its possible to make).

[Damix2]

Just like to add, making it very clear that this is not to be used for normal trades so new players, won't go in there and trade their items.

[GoldSri]

Another good idea is one i know from another game. apart from being able to trade items there is the option of "lend"

Lend means you can give your item to anybody but you have the option to retrieve it back to your inventory at any point.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by GoldSri

Another good idea is one i know from another game. apart from being able to trade items there is the option of "lend"

Lend means you can give your item to anybody but you have the option to retrieve it back to your inventory at any point.

This new trade table would pretty much cover for this. I just really hope the GK staff see this thread, because something has to be done.


If this is decided to be made, then I think its best if Stefan makes it, to prevent bugs/glitches/loop holes.

[Lance]

The new mudlib should fix any 'bugs' remaining with the trade tables.

And server-coordinated loans? Man, just don't loan stuff to untrustworthy people. It isn't that hard.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Lance

And server-coordinated loans? Man, just don't loan stuff to untrustworthy people. It isn't that hard.

Honestly.

[XGoLink]

Scamming rocks... thats my oppinion

[Jaquet]

Why? Do you scam? You prolly wouldnt think it would rock if you got scammed, you just prolly enjoy seeing others scammed

[Kaimetsu]

I would say that scamming should be illegal, but it's a difficult thing to enforce.

Would be interesting if trades could be reversed until a finite time has passed (the length of which is probably relative to the value of the items being traded). Neither party can drop or trade their side of the bargain until that time has been cleared. Then scammed users have a chance to instantly fix things if they realise that they were fooled.

Of course, it'd probably require major modification to some systems, and that just ain't gonna happen.

[XGoLink]

Originally Posted by Jaquet

Why? Do you scam?

I do, indeed..

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by Lance

It isn't that hard.

So some people, it is, sadly.

[Evil_Lord_Sparda]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Zone is perfect, and GK use to be..

Hardly. There has always been scamming on 2k2, right from the very start with Porky and others.

[Googi]

There isn't any 2K2 police, but there should be. Also, all of the taxes on trading (both table trading and plat trading) should be gotten rid of. The don't accomplish anything and just encourage scamming.

[XGoLink]

No, Police for 2K2 would suck

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by XGoLink

No, Police for 2K2 would suck

because they'd stop you from scamming?

I view scamming as a sort of theft, it goes against the Rules of Conduct.
Punishment for scamming should be inforced.