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Old 02-05-2005, 05:13 AM
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By the way, I learned to script from the Copy+Paste method. Although, unlike most newbie scripters today, I had an extra step called Experiment. I found whole scripts, put them in the editor, and played around with the script until I broke it or made something really cool. Most people today just use the script they find and never really try to learn something from it.

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Old 02-05-2005, 07:13 AM
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It is fairly basic scripting, and everyone must start somewhere, and not everyone is sure where to start.
We gave him ideas of where to start, you should not have posted full code. Especially seeing as how that is NOT the best way to do it.

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What of all the scripts Stefan has posted to help people become more advanced with newer gscript additions? Should Stefan also Adhire to the rules of not posting full scripts, and leave his documents and script to himself?
Stefan has posted NEW material, and also, things that are helpful to everyone, and not demanded by one person.

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Where would you be without those? Asking for help, unless you were a part of designing it, or just somehow knew all the commands before they were finished.
Once again, if you really wanted to help him, you would not have posted entire code for him to copy+paste. We gave him the commands to use, he could have easily have put them together, and actually learned something.


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blah blah, code here
You should have either done the heart manipulation clientside, or what my other post suggested, and did a check to see if the player's AP is below fourty.
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:39 AM
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x-x why don't you just answer his question
I would say it is because this person is asking for a script fitting his description rather than asking how to script something fitting his description. We do the latter, not the former.
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:40 AM
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Then offer some advice or direction or something, instead of just saying "read the rules"
I am sure there are tutorials or something that he could be directed to.
I dont see why simple scripts cannot be given
"Read the rules" is not advice or direction?

I should direct you to several posts where you have closed them with "Read the rules."

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Old 02-05-2005, 07:42 AM
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I would say it is because this person is asking for a script fitting his description rather than asking how to script something fitting his description. We do the latter, not the former.
Perhaps you should read the topic of this thread?
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:42 AM
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What of all the scripts Stefan has posted to help people become more advanced with newer gscript additions? Should Stefan also Adhire to the rules of not posting full scripts, and leave his documents and script to himself?
You should actually read the rule you're criticizing. It says not to post full scripts to solve people's problems. Posting a full script you designed and want to show off or want to release to the public certainly does not fit the rule's description.
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:44 AM
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Perhaps you should read the topic of this thread?
Now what?

Perhaps you should examine the wording of his post.
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:47 AM
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Now what?

Perhaps you should examine the wording of his post.
Perhaps he lacks skill in the English language, and 'i need ...' after his topic already states 'How do i..' is his way of asking for help?
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:49 AM
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Perhaps he lacks skill in the English language, and 'i need ...' after his topic already states 'How do i..' is his way of asking for help?
Then perhaps he should read this to avoid such ambiguity. (Credit once again goes to Loriel for the link)
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:52 AM
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Then perhaps he should read this to avoid such ambiguity. (Credit once again goes to Loriel for the link)
Then perhaps you should sticky that link, to avoid further instances like this
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Old 02-06-2005, 01:40 AM
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You should actually read the rule you're criticizing. It says not to post full scripts to solve people's problems.
So some problems some people were having getting adjusted to the new gscript engine, was not solved by Stefan creating example code?

Say i was eager to use the RC Item he posted, had he not posted, would many people have had a way to do it alone?

I am just saying, Stefan has helped solve a lot of problems by posting his code, I am not criticizing the rule, but bringing it into a diffrent perspective.
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Old 02-06-2005, 01:45 AM
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So some problems some people were having getting adjusted to the new gscript engine, was not solved by Stefan creating example code?

Say i was eager to use the RC Item he posted, had he not posted, would many people have had a way to do it alone?
The RC Item he posted was not example code. It was a tool that people can use on their server because it is not installed by default.


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I am just saying, Stefan has helped solve a lot of problems by posting his code, I am not criticizing the rule, but bringing it into a diffrent perspective.
Stefan has never posted code that was demanded from someone who did not attempt to script something theirselves. Like Lance said, read the rule before you so blatantly post about it being broken.
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Old 02-06-2005, 02:59 PM
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I agree with both sides of this to an extent.

I myself need help with scripting a lot, but I always TRY to do it myself, and then go for help if I am totally clueless as how to achieve the effect I want.

However, the script this person is asking for, is simple functions that I'm sure even someone who has never scripted before could figure out just by reading the commands.

Theres a huge difference between "GUYS CAN I PLZ HAVE THIS SCRIPT I DONT KNOW HOW 2 DO IT"

and

"Here's what I've tried so far, and none of this seems to be working, can someone explain to me what I need to add, or what I'm doing wrong"

You can learn a lot by cuting and pasting code, but only if you understand what the code your pasting is doing. Whenever someone helps me, I normally as them what they did to make it work if I can't figure it out myself by looking at their changes.
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Old 02-06-2005, 11:59 PM
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The RC Item he posted was not example code.
So your saying this weaponRC which he posted, contains no example of how to use gscript2 in an item, and by looking at it, it might not give you any hint as to how to do something you want.

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Stefan has never posted code that was demanded from someone who did not attempt to script something theirselves.
How many times have you tried scripting the new RC?
On the other side of that coin, how many times have people asked "When will the scripted RC be done?"

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Like Lance said, read the rule before you so blatantly post about it being broken.
You must be slightly thick, I posted about no rule being broken, I simply asked a rhetorical question, which just so happened to concern said rule.

Hey if you cant point out to me where I said "Stefan breaks the NPC forum rules" then I will be glad to apologize, but the problem is, you wont find where I said that, because I didnt.
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Old 02-07-2005, 12:57 AM
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Hey if you cant point out to me where I said "Stefan breaks the NPC forum rules" then I will be glad to apologize, but the problem is, you wont find where I said that, because I didnt.
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Should Stefan also Adhire to the rules of not posting full scripts, and leave his documents and script to himself?
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