Pwa...

[Darlene159]

Lance and Projectshifter, you completely misunderstood my post
My beef is, do the Playerworlds realize that the GST have the authority to do other things above global scripting?
Or do they throw a fit when the GST try to go beyond what their jobs are?

The lower PWA should have the power to help in situations, instead of having to go to GST because they dont have the power to do what they need to do.
I dont like the whole "I have more power than you", or "that is my job" either, but if you have GST doing PWA's job, then it can create confusion on the playerworlds.
I am just wondering how many staff have gotten angry with the GST for trying to do the PWA's job, because they do not know that "some" of the GST have the authority to do it.

*Shrugs*
Just seems to me that the PWA should be able to do their jobs as a whole, instead of the lower PWA having to go to Spark, GST, or higher to get things done.

I am not trying to bash anyone here, or start an arguement, I am looking at things as a Manager of a PW would look at things. There is enough confusions with changes and this and that now, I would hate for staff on a PW to get in trouble for telling off a GST member, because they dont think GST have the authority to take care of PWA issues.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Lance and Projectshifter, you completely misunderstood my post
My beef is, do the Playerworlds realize that the GST have the authority to do other things above global scripting?
Or do they throw a fit when the GST try to go beyond what their jobs are?

The lower PWA should have the power to help in situations, instead of having to go to GST because they dont have the power to do what they need to do.
I dont like the whole "I have more power than you", or "that is my job" either, but if you have GST doing PWA's job, then it can create confusion on the playerworlds.
I am just wondering how many staff have gotten angry with the GST for trying to do the PWA's job, because they do not know that "some" of the GST have the authority to do it.

*Shrugs*
Just seems to me that the PWA should be able to do their jobs as a whole, instead of the lower PWA having to go to Spark, GST, or higher to get things done.

I am not trying to bash anyone here, or start an arguement, I am looking at things as a Manager of a PW would look at things. There is enough confusions with changes and this and that now, I would hate for staff on a PW to get in trouble for telling off a GST member, because they dont think GST have the authority to take care of PWA issues.

Unfortunately, to have the ability to do our job right would mean drastically increased rights, including serveroptions, ban rights, rw to pretty much everything (perhaps not NC, but even then...), warp players, open comments, set rights, and some other things.

I can't see that ever happening, so we have to go through Spark. I don't think it can get any better because we're not really trusted as much as the GST. Maybe it's because we don't have debug and can't occasionally chat with Stefan about issues pertaining to us. Who knows?

[Projectshifter]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

The lower PWA should have the power to help in situations, instead of having to go to GST because they dont have the power to do what they need to do.
I dont like the whole "I have more power than you", or "that is my job" either, but if you have GST doing PWA's job, then it can create confusion on the playerworlds.
I am just wondering how many staff have gotten angry with the GST for trying to do the PWA's job, because they do not know that "some" of the GST have the authority to do it.

*Shrugs*
Just seems to me that the PWA should be able to do their jobs as a whole, instead of the lower PWA having to go to Spark, GST, or higher to get things done.

I am not trying to bash anyone here, or start an arguement, I am looking at things as a Manager of a PW would look at things. There is enough confusions with changes and this and that now, I would hate for staff on a PW to get in trouble for telling off a GST member, because they dont think GST have the authority to take care of PWA issues.

Actually come to think of it, I'm heavily surprised as well. I have not had any conflicts with managers, they usualy just realize "global" and then due to being a global have no problems in cooperating. Mostly the only problems result when unhappy staff, who usually have little to no say in these matters due to their position and arrogance, try to get upset and "you can't do that! I'm getting you fired now, you're in trouble when i talk to Stefan". Strangely enough, Stefan has not once contact me after these few occurances
But the truth of the matter is, most playerworld managers are versed on what is going on, and they realize that a global is there to help 'usually', and that when it comes to hacking or security, the GST tend to be the forerunner on knowledge and being able to fix such things, due to the fact that so much is based upon scripts and server settings and such.

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Projectshifter

the GST tend to be the forerunner on knowledge and being able to fix such things, due to the fact that so much is based upon scripts and server settings and such.

Though the PWA has seriously increased their hacking knowledge with the last hirings.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Lance and Projectshifter, you completely misunderstood my post

Incorrect! I merely felt like correcting an egregious error I spotted. However, you certainly did not read and comprehend mine:

My beef is, do the Playerworlds realize that the GST have the authority to do other things above global scripting?

For, if you had, you would understand that 'the GST' do not have such authority, but some of its members do!

Or do they throw a fit when the GST try to go beyond what their jobs are?

And, you would have then applied that knowledge to reach the conclusion: "It is not 'going beyond what their jobs are' if it is independent of their job."

The lower PWA should have the power to help in situations, instead of having to go to GST because they dont have the power to do what they need to do.

Again, you need to stop speaking of these people in a group. Some PWA members have such banning/unbanning/etc powers. New ones, however, do not automatically get all this extra stuff (and they certianly shouldn't) until they have proven themselves trustworthy. I should also note that the PWA does not have to 'go to the GST'. In fact, I cannot think of an example where this has happened to me. I have been approached for advice, for backup, but never because I had some arbitrary rights that others do not.

I dont like the whole "I have more power than you", or "that is my job" either, but if you have GST doing PWA's job, then it can create confusion on the playerworlds.

I have encountered little to none in my experience. People recognize my position as a global administrator and are quite willing to comply.

I am just wondering how many staff have gotten angry with the GST for trying to do the PWA's job, because they do not know that "some" of the GST have the authority to do it.

Why would someone get angry at a group for what some of its members have done? That is fallacious thinking, and quite a bit like the line of thinking that leads to stereotypes, racism, and hate crimes.

*Shrugs*
Just seems to me that the PWA should be able to do their jobs as a whole, instead of the lower PWA having to go to Spark, GST, or higher to get things done.

See above.

I am not trying to bash anyone here, or start an arguement, I am looking at things as a Manager of a PW would look at things. There is enough confusions with changes and this and that now, I would hate for staff on a PW to get in trouble for telling off a GST member, because they dont think GST have the authority to take care of PWA issues.

I do not think it is required to state that you are not trying to bash anyone or start an argument. For example, I am simply clearing up some misconceptions and answering your questions, but I hardly feel it necessary to throw in such a disclaimer. Anyway, in reply to your last comment: It is unwise to just 'tell off' a global staff member. That is just asking for trouble.