Graal Forums  

Go Back   Graal Forums > General Forums > Graal Main Forum (English)
FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-24-2004, 01:49 AM
bef bef is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 243
bef is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to bef Send a message via MSN to bef
Some interesting points...

I'd just like to say that Graal these days seems more focused on Managing than getting players interested and involved, I say this only days after a new server has been released but thats not going to fix the problem, what we need is to revert to the days where there were only 3 or 4 servers, this was good because each server would be over 120player count and people actually want to play. I don't agree that Graal should be more concerned about IP Ranges than they are about playability, Stefan and Unix should both realise that doing that is an aweful not only for the players but for their marketing and financing of the game.

PWA's are somewhat helpful if you have a small problem, but if you have a larger problem you have to contact Stefan or get a PWA to... Seeing as Stefan doesn't use emails and doesn't always respond to Forum PM's I think somebody actually needs to be made powerful enough to handle ALL playerworld problems on their own, actually do things to help servers and even take a load off of stefans back.

I had more to say, but i forgot what it was.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by smurfmidgetninja
I am planning to study physics in college but my dream is to prove God exists through science.
  #2  
Old 12-24-2004, 01:50 AM
Spark910 Spark910 is offline
Ex-Graal Global
Spark910's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: England
Posts: 10,892
Spark910 has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by bef
Some interesting points...

I'd just like to say that Graal these days seems more focused on Managing than getting players interested and involved, I say this only days after a new server has been released but thats not going to fix the problem, what we need is to revert to the days where there were only 3 or 4 servers, this was good because each server would be over 120player count and people actually want to play. I don't agree that Graal should be more concerned about IP Ranges than they are about playability, Stefan and Unix should both realise that doing that is an aweful not only for the players but for their marketing and financing of the game.

PWA's are somewhat helpful if you have a small problem, but if you have a larger problem you have to contact Stefan or get a PWA to... Seeing as Stefan doesn't use emails and doesn't always respond to Forum PM's I think somebody actually needs to be made powerful enough to handle ALL playerworld problems on their own, actually do things to help servers and even take a load off of stefans back.

I had more to say, but i forgot what it was.
I agree with most there. I think that maybe more should be done in terms of new things for the players, rarther than the developers.
__________________
--Spark911
  #3  
Old 12-24-2004, 03:30 AM
Deek2 Deek2 is offline
Registered User
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Springfield, Missouri
Posts: 1,578
Deek2 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by bef
Some interesting points...

I'd just like to say that Graal these days seems more focused on Managing than getting players interested and involved, I say this only days after a new server has been released but thats not going to fix the problem, what we need is to revert to the days where there were only 3 or 4 servers, this was good because each server would be over 120player count and people actually want to play.
Are you even aware of the repercussions that would happen if we did that?
  #4  
Old 12-24-2004, 04:21 AM
protagonist protagonist is offline
Banned
protagonist's Avatar
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CAW
Posts: 5,586
protagonist is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to protagonist Send a message via MSN to protagonist
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deek2
Are you even aware of the repercussions that would happen if we did that?

It makes a certain amount of sense, if the playerworlds went on a weekly cycle or something. Have them switch between classic and hosted. The people who really wanted to play them would go to hosted, while others would just stick with classic servers.
  #5  
Old 12-24-2004, 04:40 AM
ZanderX ZanderX is offline
what up
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 18,614
ZanderX is a glorious beacon of lightZanderX is a glorious beacon of lightZanderX is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by protagonist
It makes a certain amount of sense, if the playerworlds went on a weekly cycle or something. Have them switch between classic and hosted. The people who really wanted to play them would go to hosted, while others would just stick with classic servers.
That's different than what bef was suggesting. Yours, however, is a fine suggestion.
  #6  
Old 12-24-2004, 04:47 AM
Deek2 Deek2 is offline
Registered User
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Springfield, Missouri
Posts: 1,578
Deek2 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by protagonist
It makes a certain amount of sense, if the playerworlds went on a weekly cycle or something. Have them switch between classic and hosted. The people who really wanted to play them would go to hosted, while others would just stick with classic servers.
This would imply that none of the servers be removed, which I don't think is the case. Either way, it might decrease management load, but decreasing the amount of servers isn't going to provoke more people to play.
  #7  
Old 12-24-2004, 02:20 PM
middo middo is offline
VHE Monkey
middo's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: California
Posts: 327
middo is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to middo
I'm not sure if this has been announced yet, I really am tired and dont feel like sifting through 4 pages of subtle flame.

But.
Here is the real problem;
We have more PWs than we do players, all the players flock to the crappy PWs rather than the ones with heart and soul, the PWAs shut down someone with no IP range while someone with an IP range is doing things just as bad.
Overall its just a stupid circle, and there are SO MANY GOD FORSAKEN PWs, For the love of GOD GET RID OF SOME. WAY too many.
  #8  
Old 12-24-2004, 02:47 PM
Spark910 Spark910 is offline
Ex-Graal Global
Spark910's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: England
Posts: 10,892
Spark910 has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by middo
the PWAs shut down someone with no IP range while someone with an IP range is doing things just as bad.
Now that a system for IPs has been put into place, we wont have to mess around worrying about that, and can concentrate on other things. But for us IP ranges was a top priority, due to the amount of time wasted restoring playerworlds and trying to stop people who aren't the account owner being on RC.
__________________
--Spark911
  #9  
Old 12-24-2004, 09:48 PM
anim8999 anim8999 is offline
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 28
anim8999 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spark910
Now that a system for IPs has been put into place, we wont have to mess around worrying about that, and can concentrate on other things.
What are these "other things"? I can't think of anything that the PWA does.
  #10  
Old 12-24-2004, 11:47 PM
ZanderX ZanderX is offline
what up
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 18,614
ZanderX is a glorious beacon of lightZanderX is a glorious beacon of lightZanderX is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by middo
I'm not sure if this has been announced yet, I really am tired and dont feel like sifting through 4 pages of subtle flame.

But.
Here is the real problem;
We have more PWs than we do players, all the players flock to the crappy PWs rather than the ones with heart and soul, the PWAs shut down someone with no IP range while someone with an IP range is doing things just as bad.
Overall its just a stupid circle, and there are SO MANY GOD FORSAKEN PWs, For the love of GOD GET RID OF SOME. WAY too many.
The problem with this is that playerworlds are a very, very good source of income for Graal. Getting rid of them would lose customers and income.
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright (C) 1998-2019 Toonslab All Rights Reserved.