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Old 12-23-2004, 02:50 PM
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Hmm, let's see....
Playerworld owners own the PW, but they RENT the space in which the PW is on.
That makes Graalonline RESPONSIBLE for the content on the RENTED space.
Paying customers go on these PW's, and play them....if there is illegal crap, pornographic materials, etc....and someone complains to authorities, or someone sues for some reason or another...who do you think this happens to? The OWNERS of Graal, of course.

Suggesting that the PW owners should be able to do what they want is stupid...this is suppose to be something for everyone to enjoy....EVERYONE
The owner enjoys making it, and their staff if there are any..they enjoy getting it put up for others to enjoy, and the players (hopefully) enjoy playing it.
There might be some who like to be abused, dont mind seeing illegal crap, dont mind seeing nasty images, or whatever....but I do not think the majority do, I know Stefan and Unixmad dont want it...and I am willing to bet that a good amount of parents would not appreciate it either.

Before the current PWA, people complained alot about not being able to contact Stefan about problems on their PW's, that is why the PWA was started I think, and now things get done alot faster.
Stefan cannot handle it all, that is why Business owners hire staff.

As for IP ranges....I seriously dont know what the problem is here. I mean in the past it was quite apparent that something needed to be done as people were hacking accounts and getting on RC...creating havok, removing content, and putting crazy stuff on the PW. I even know a couple of times, there was so much content uploaded that it filled up the hard drive and nothing on any PW would save because of it...what a mess.

The PWA can handle alot of problems themselves, which make things run smoother, otherwise everyone would have to wait until Stefan got to it as busy as he is.
*shrugs*
I like getting things done as quick as possible, but that is just me....

Maybe some of you should remember that this is a BUSINESS
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Old 12-23-2004, 02:56 PM
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Hmm, let's see....
Playerworld owners own the PW, but they RENT the space in which the PW is on.
That makes Graalonline RESPONSIBLE for the content on the RENTED space.
Paying customers go on these PW's, and play them....if there is illegal crap, pornographic materials, etc....and someone complains to authorities, or someone sues for some reason or another...who do you think this happens to? The OWNERS of Graal, of course.

Suggesting that the PW owners should be able to do what they want is stupid...this is suppose to be something for everyone to enjoy....EVERYONE
The owner enjoys making it, and their staff if there are any..they enjoy getting it put up for others to enjoy, and the players (hopefully) enjoy playing it.
There might be some who like to be abused, dont mind seeing illegal crap, dont mind seeing nasty images, or whatever....but I do not think the majority do, I know Stefan and Unixmad dont want it...and I am willing to bet that a good amount of parents would not appreciate it either.

Before the current PWA, people complained alot about not being able to contact Stefan about problems on their PW's, that is why the PWA was started I think, and now things get done alot faster.
Stefan cannot handle it all, that is why Business owners hire staff.

As for IP ranges....I seriously dont know what the problem is here. I mean in the past it was quite apparent that something needed to be done as people were hacking accounts and getting on RC...creating havok, removing content, and putting crazy stuff on the PW. I even know a couple of times, there was so much content uploaded that it filled up the hard drive and nothing on any PW would save because of it...what a mess.

The PWA can handle alot of problems themselves, which make things run smoother, otherwise everyone would have to wait until Stefan got to it as busy as he is.
*shrugs*
I like getting things done as quick as possible, but that is just me....

Maybe some of you should remember that this is a BUSINESS
Not trying to be negative, but when I see our wonderful magical pwa calling other people "***s" for hitting them with weapons, it doesn't really shout out BUSINESS to me.

I do admit that they do get things done quicker than in my past graal experience, but for some reason I hear just "negative" and how stupid my staff are rather then "How can I help you?"[/
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Old 12-23-2004, 03:15 PM
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Not trying to be negative, but when I see our wonderful magical pwa calling other people "***s" for hitting them with weapons, it doesn't really shout out BUSINESS to me.

I do admit that they do get things done quicker than in my past graal experience, but for some reason I hear just "negative" and how stupid my staff are rather then "How can I help you?"[/
I agree with you there, and such things should be reported as that is not an appropriate way to handle situations....but you cannot judge a whole idea, or a whole staff structure based on 1 person (if it is one person).
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Old 12-23-2004, 03:37 PM
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This is an arguement of endless loops.

The PWA, or some form of them, ARE needed.

There are over 100 playerworlds, all of them having problems now and then, some much more than others. I'm fairly sure Stefan does not have the time to deal with 100 Managers himself.

Yes, I have seen PWA's overstep their boundries. That's nearly unavoidable. However what's important is that they do what's needed to be done when it is needed.

If playworld managers were allowed to do whatever they wanted, how long would it be before Companys were looking to sue Graal Online for having copyrighted material all over the place? How long would it take before outraged parents took action because of profanity and poronography on the servers, when the site clearly states the game is free of such adult material?

In a perfect world, the PWA would not have to be there to hold everyones hand.

Consequences dictate our course of action, and it doesn't matter what's right.
It's only wrong if you get caught.

If there were no rules, if they were not enforced at all, can you imagine the state graal would be in?
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