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Old 12-14-2004, 07:00 AM
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You do not post any details. You post vague things that have no particular meaning, i.e "there is work being done". There are no specifics in your messages.
And of course the only reason that I could possibly have for not posting specifics is that there is no progress! It could never be that specifics are not required to be disclosed, or that I would rather surprise people with the multitude of changes that we have been making!
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Old 12-14-2004, 10:42 AM
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We shall see it when it is released, just need to wait, go find something else to do, i watched 16 movies during this month and i'm still waiting for anything major to happen with Era, 2001 and GK, but i'm not holding my breath.



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Old 12-14-2004, 03:00 PM
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And of course the only reason that I could possibly have for not posting specifics is that there is no progress! It could never be that specifics are not required to be disclosed, or that I would rather surprise people with the multitude of changes that we have been making!
It's not so much that you aren't posting anything as the fact that you are posting nothing other then "work is being done."

Hey, I made a new playerworld that is better then oasis and work is being done on it!!!
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Old 12-15-2004, 05:32 AM
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It's not so much that you aren't posting anything as the fact that you are posting nothing other then "work is being done."

Hey, I made a new playerworld that is better then oasis and work is being done on it!!!
If you can't live without details, then it was nice knowing you.

I have already explained that the details (AS SUPER COOL AWESOME SECRETS) are better than "ok here's everything we're going to give you". That spoils the surprise - There's a lot of fun in exploring and discovering.

Loose lips sink ships, after all.

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Also, TO VT WITH LOVE: The multitude of new things is in the timeframe that starts the moment graal2001 went private and ends sometime around this moment, not 'in the last week'. Your assumption is flawed Now, I will ask you nicely to stop posting in this thread. I have nothing I am required to 'prove' or 'show' to you, and this will not change, no matter how many inane replies you make! Thank you for stopping by!
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Old 12-15-2004, 06:01 AM
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We were told screenshots would be allowed on here...
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Old 12-15-2004, 06:46 AM
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We were told screenshots would be allowed on here...
And when I feel like releasing screenshots or one of my staff members suggests we release screenshots of something and I approve it then ye shall have your screenshots! Neither has occurred yet!
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:28 AM
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can't u yourself just pst some old screenshots of familier places so people will be happy
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Also, TO VT WITH LOVE: The multitude of new things is in the timeframe that starts the moment graal2001 went private and ends sometime around this moment, not 'in the last week'. Your assumption is flawed Now, I will ask you nicely to stop posting in this thread. I have nothing I am required to 'prove' or 'show' to you, and this will not change, no matter how many inane replies you make! Thank you for stopping by!
Since when do you have the right to be abrasive? You're the one who let it die for so long.


It's nice to finally see some screenshots.
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:31 PM
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Since when do you have the right to be abrasive? You're the one who let it die for so long.
hi thanks for reading my posts in this thread and comprehending them I really appeciate it
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Old 12-15-2004, 10:43 PM
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OMG LANCE MADE A SPELLING ERROR LETS ALL JUMP ON IT!
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Old 12-15-2004, 10:50 PM
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Since when do you have the right to be abrasive? You're the one who let it die for so long.
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It's not so much that you aren't posting anything as the fact that you are posting nothing other then "work is being done."
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We still dont believe Lance has done anything.


Edit// As a matter of fact. I havn't seen anything new since my speech a while back
Lance has told us that he's going to improve Graal2001 and make it worthwhile. He's put effort to put himself in a position to do so and restore development. Can't any of you support this? All you seem to have done so far is judge him by what he's done in the past and jump down his throat because of it, completely disregarding the fact that development is taking place: what you originally asked for. I have faith that this effort will be worthwhile and that Lance can get this right, even if you people don't.
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Old 12-15-2004, 10:54 PM
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Lance has told us that he's going to improve Graal2001 and make it worthwhile. He's put effort to put himself in a position to do so and restore development. Can't any of you support this? All you seem to have done so far is judge him by what he's done in the past and jump down his throat because of it, completely disregarding the fact that development is taking place: what you originally asked for. I have faith that this effort will be worthwhile and that Lance can get this right, even if you people don't.
But we know how it allways ends, should I give you some examples?
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Old 12-15-2004, 11:19 PM
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Lance has told us that he's going to improve Graal2001 and make it worthwhile. He's put effort to put himself in a position to do so and restore development. Can't any of you support this? All you seem to have done so far is judge him by what he's done in the past and jump down his throat because of it, completely disregarding the fact that development is taking place: what you originally asked for. I have faith that this effort will be worthwhile and that Lance can get this right, even if you people don't.
No... it's the fact that Tseng only works when someone is jumping on his back.

What was going on before my speech? Nothing
What happened after my speech? Excalibur was hired

Excalibur was trying to contact Tseng. What did Tseng do? Nothing
What happened after I got onto him about it? Excalibur was contacted and now work is being done on Malenth.

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The simple fact is this. Tseng only jumps to it when someone is stating the faults in his management. He has NOT put himself in a position to restore 2k1. Go on Graal2001 Dev right now and see if he's on. In fact, see if any staff members are on. If a cowardly general makes a cowardly army, then an inactive manager makes an inactive staff.

If you'd look back on the comments of the G2k1 loyalist, you will find that we dont just bash managers. We certainly dont bash managers who are restoring a server we want back. Where is the logic in that? We dont support Tseng because he hasn't done anything to show us that he is working.

We're not judging him for his actions in the past. We're judging his actions now. Lance has been given more chances then any previous manager. He can not neglect his position.

I recently got to tour 2k1 to witness new things that were being put up. I'm not going to tell you anything, do not contact me about it. I saw CheeToS's screenshots and they're all from the old months, pre-speech (excluding the sundial script). Two kingdoms still aren't done. One LAT couldn't possibly do everything on 2k1.

If it took 15 or so months to finish a kingdom and a half then how long will it take to finish another kingdom and a half plus fix the various level bugs found all over the server? Another year? Might as well be playing Graal2006 by then.
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Old 12-16-2004, 12:48 AM
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hi thanks for reading my posts in this thread and comprehending them I really appeciate it

Why should I listen to what you say? So far it's been a bunch of fallacy.

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Lance has told us that he's going to improve Graal2001 and make it worthwhile. He's put effort to put himself in a position to do so and restore development. Can't any of you support this? All you seem to have done so far is judge him by what he's done in the past and jump down his throat because of it, completely disregarding the fact that development is taking place: what you originally asked for. I have faith that this effort will be worthwhile and that Lance can get this right, even if you people don't.
This isn't some underdog project. 2k1 was a popular server and Lance's inaction has prevented it from being revived. His refusal to allow more people work on it and his refusal to step down has pretty much buried it.
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:50 PM
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And of course the only reason that I could possibly have for not posting specifics is that there is no progress! It could never be that specifics are not required to be disclosed, or that I would rather surprise people with the multitude of changes that we have been making!
If you could make all these changes in one week, then it truly shows how ridiculas this situation is. As of a week ago, nothing was going on. Am I to believe any different now?


You simply are not showing any change in behavior. You're continuing to make the same style of statements without any supporting evidence. Why should we take your word for it?
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Old 12-14-2004, 11:02 PM
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The purpose of the recent posts is simple.

We still dont believe Lance has done anything.


Edit// As a matter of fact. I havn't seen anything new since my speech a while back
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Old 12-15-2004, 02:35 AM
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