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Old 12-06-2004, 11:49 PM
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Elemental Kingdoms suggestion thread

Ok, I am trying to make EK more playerfriendly and such, so post any suiggestions you have to make it better, other than the following:

1. Please don't say "delete it to make it better" or anything like that

2. Don't ask me to add a level system, I have the EXP and power systems explained elsewhere in the forums.

3. Please try not to make your suggestions like "The graphix suck make them better", I am asking for CONSTRUCTIVE criticism/ideas.
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Old 12-06-2004, 11:58 PM
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Ok, I am trying to make EK more playerfriendly and such, so post any suiggestions you have to make it better, other than the following
Make the sword system better. I swing the sword once and get a *failed* message, then the sword doesn't work ever again.

Document how to start off in some way, I will be using the start island on my server to start the players off with the basics, then they can go to the main island with some knowledge. You should try making a tutorial level or have a sign telling the player where to go to get certain items.

Make things more interactive. From when I had RC, you had a simple preset string for kingdom sizes and percents. Make it more interactive! Maybe when the player starts off, a server strings adds a number to their selected kingdom member count and then something calculates percentages?
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:17 AM
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Hmm i accidentally put forum instead of thread in the title, oops....

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Make the sword system better. I swing the sword once and get a *failed* message, then the sword doesn't work ever again.
I have been working on that bug, but am unsure what's wrong with it. The failed part is normal, but it should still be usable. Do you mean you cant do anything with it or you keep failing? If it's the latter then you just have low EXP. If not then perhaps sometime you could help me make the swords into a class liek you have? It would help a lot.

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Document how to start off in some way, I will be using the start island on my server to start the players off with the basics, then they can go to the main island with some knowledge. You should try making a tutorial level or have a sign telling the player where to go to get certain items.
Yes i suppose a tutorial level would be good..... I do have a *system item that actually helps by telling you the basics but everyone thinks that that's what we use for client commands XD.

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Make things more interactive. From when I had RC, you had a simple preset string for kingdom sizes and percents. Make it more interactive! Maybe when the player starts off, a server strings adds a number to their selected kingdom member count and then something calculates percentages?
Quite honestly, the kindom stuff won't be implemented until we are almost ready for classic (a long time), and wa splanning on doing something like this. There will also be ways to join each kingdom's army, spy group, or arcane army, and then do war actions, but I won't get into that right now.
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:54 AM
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I have been working on that bug, but am unsure what's wrong with it. The failed part is normal, but it should still be usable. Do you mean you cant do anything with it or you keep failing? If it's the latter then you just have low EXP. If not then perhaps sometime you could help me make the swords into a class liek you have? It would help a lot.
Cant use it at all. Nothing happens.

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Yes i suppose a tutorial level would be good..... I do have a *system item that actually helps by telling you the basics but everyone thinks that that's what we use for client commands XD.
Thats cause usually systems dont have help. Make a help sign or something.

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Quite honestly, the kindom stuff won't be implemented until we are almost ready for classic (a long time), and wa splanning on doing something like this. There will also be ways to join each kingdom's army, spy group, or arcane army, and then do war actions, but I won't get into that right now.
I would get it done now. Its only going to help you.
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Old 12-07-2004, 01:40 AM
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Cant use it at all. Nothing happens.
Well would you be willing? to help convert the swords into a class? After that everything would be a lot easier to fix.

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Thats cause usually systems dont have help. Make a help sign or something.
I'll probably make a starting quest or the like, but it may take a little while because my HW has been a lot lately :-/.

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I would get it done now. Its only going to help you.
I suppose, but there are more important things to work on now, and the kingdom thign wil ltake a lot of time and effort that could go into things that would be mor ehelpful; at the time.
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Old 12-07-2004, 02:32 AM
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Make all the levels Grass and then make a money giving NPC along with NPCs and your fine.
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Old 12-07-2004, 02:35 AM
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Ok new rule (more of a request, really since i have no power):
No stup[id or useless ones like give me money or the one logicbot just posted :-P.
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Old 12-07-2004, 03:32 AM
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Ok new rule (more of a request, really since i have no power):
No stup[id or useless ones like give me money or the one logicbot just posted :-P.
Dude. Every suggestion thread has stupid posts.
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Old 12-07-2004, 03:50 AM
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Old 12-07-2004, 05:29 AM
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Ok new rule (more of a request, really since i have no power):
No stup[id or useless ones like give me money or the one logicbot just posted :-P.
*Uses new command /smartpost*

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Old 12-07-2004, 05:33 AM
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*Uses new command /smartpost*

Maby you SHOULD really restart.

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1. Please don't say "delete it to make it better" or anything like that
I think your /smartpost is broken.

He has something. He just needs to fix things up a bit and make the server run more smoothly.
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Old 12-07-2004, 07:31 PM
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I hate, hate, HATE graal's defualt menu system ESPCIALLY when a playerworld uses it with 234807234 npcws!
Make a menu system then you will get some decency of my eyes and mouse looking at the server.
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Old 12-07-2004, 10:35 PM
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I made one, but it was only one weapon at a time. The images are all different sizes so it's hard to make a more organized one with multiple weapons in an area. Plus I never did like making menus.
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Old 12-08-2004, 02:48 AM
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Then hire someone like me that specializes in that.
Also ALWAYS make your icons 32x32
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Old 12-08-2004, 04:55 AM
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I'd hire you but I'm afraid you would delete whatever you can and say "i was trying to help" lol
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Old 12-09-2004, 02:15 AM
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I'd hire you but I'm afraid you would delete whatever you can and say "i was trying to help" lol
1. I do not wish to work on your server as I only work on ones that I view have a promise and intrest me.
2. I am not immature such that I would delete everything... My vision of your maturity just droped because you even thought that.
3. You should know not to give enough rights to people so that they could do that and you should also back everything up weekly.
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Old 12-09-2004, 03:20 AM
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1. I do not wish to work on your server as I only work on ones that I view have a promise and intrest me.
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2. I am not immature such that I would delete everything... My vision of your maturity just droped because you even thought that.
His maturity never seemed to be very high. I don't think people should be using 'lol' on forums. It just doesnt seem right.
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Old 12-09-2004, 04:15 AM
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1. I do not wish to work on your server as I only work on ones that I view have a promise and intrest me.
I actually wasn't planning on hiring you anyway, and actually the whole thing was a joke, and I knew you wouldn't work there anyway.

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2. I am not immature such that I would delete everything... My vision of your maturity just droped because you even thought that.
I wouldn't know that, there are several people who would. Maturity can be looke dat several ways, or as a composition of all the ways, and i personally find you immature as well.

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I obviously was exaggerating, I actually have a couple methods to prevent deletion, only my most trusted staff has rw access to levels folde,r everyone else pouts it in folders that have files redirected to levels, plus i backup at least weekly.
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His maturity never seemed to be very high. I don't think people should be using 'lol' on forums. It just doesnt seem right.
Don't base someone's maturity off of internet slang. I use AIM so much that whenever i use a typed message i tend to use lol, and other such things. You are basically the immature one for basing it off of that.
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Don't base someone's maturity off of internet slang. I use AIM so much that whenever i use a typed message i tend to use lol, and other such things. You are basically the immature one for basing it off of that.
I said it doesnt seem to be very high. That is my opinion. I base it off your forum posts because I personally don't know your or even talk to you on AIM.
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Old 12-09-2004, 04:20 AM
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I said it doesnt seem to be very high. That is my opinion. I base it off your forum posts because I personally don't know your or even talk to you on AIM.
Then you shouldn't then have an opinion on someone you don't know. This is a common thing most learn in life.
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Then you shouldn't then have an opinion on someone you don't know. This is a common thing most learn in life.
It really humors me when little kids try to teach people older then them things that they had already learned way earlier in life...
As for my maturity. I attend one of the top thrre highschools in the whole US and I have about 10 hours of classes everyday with about 4 hours of homework. It is really hard to be immature and stay in this school. Maturity is not only a level of how you act but also your level of responibility and I can see from your work that you are not very responcible. (Including that fact that you argue with EVERY LITTLE THING)
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As for my maturity. I attend one of the top thrre highschools in the whole US and I have about 10 hours of classes everyday with about 4 hours of homework. It is really hard to be immature and stay in this school
That doesn't seem like a convincing argument. It seems more like an opportunity to brag about your pseudo-school.
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That doesn't seem like a convincing argument. It seems more like an opportunity to brag about your pseudo-school.
Pseudo-school?
Hardly. I don't pay $40,000 for nothing. You are just jealous because I am going some where with my life and can actually get into college with ease.
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Pseudo-school?
It is an art school, yes?

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You don't pay $40,000 at all, I'll wager.

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You don't even know what my life is like, dawg. And it's extremely arrogant to assume that I would want to live like you.

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Or your parents' money can, anyway. That aside, I certainly don't have any problems being accepted by colleges. I am, after all, much more intelligent than you.
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Old 12-09-2004, 10:26 PM
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It really humors me when little kids try to teach people older then them things that they had already learned way earlier in life...
As for my maturity. I attend one of the top thrre highschools in the whole US and I have about 10 hours of classes everyday with about 4 hours of homework. It is really hard to be immature and stay in this school. Maturity is not only a level of how you act but also your level of responibility and I can see from your work that you are not very responcible. (Including that fact that you argue with EVERY LITTLE THING)
Funny how I'm not a little kid and I think I am near slash's age (but can't be sure), plus that was adressed to him, not you.
Maturity and responsibility being seen as the same thing would be a very narrow look at what maturity is. I like to think of maturity as a combination of: Age you Act, responisibility, morals, and overall actions (hard to explain what i mean by this better, sorry). I have no proof that you goto said school, and i doubt you have tangible proof either. Based on what I said, and what I've seen from you, you don't seem to be a very mature person in my opinion (Slash if you are thinking of calling me a hypocrite for this, I know Zokemon better than you know me, and I based my opinion on something better). Since I have no evidence of your responsibility however, I can't be sure of your overall maturity however.

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Hardly. I don't pay $40,000 for nothing. You are just jealous because I am going some where with my life and can actually get into college with ease.
By saying hardly, which means barely, you are admitting that it is a pseudo school, from a technical viewpoint, though I know what you mean. Kai is obviously better educated than you and seems to have some good morals, despite his tendency to overargue. Also, for all we know you could be doign bad in that school which won't get you itno college. Even if you do go to such a school, that means little.
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Haha I knew Zero would bring out the Art School card.

Falco,
There is no rule or lesson or anything that says I cannot have an opinion. I remember you saying I am your acquaintance because I have talked to you on Graal. I am allowed to have an opinion of you based on what I have seen.

What the heck. You are a hipocryte.
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Then you shouldn't then have an opinion on someone you don't know. This is a common thing most learn in life.
Do you know him personally? I don't think so!
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Based on what I said, and what I've seen from you, you don't seem to be a very mature person in my opinion
Something better? You just said exactly how I judged you.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:10 AM
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Slash: I am not a hypocrite. You based your opinion of me based on the fact that i use weblingo, I based it on how I have seen Zokemon act on the forums, there's a huge difference.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:11 AM
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Slash: I am not a hypocrite. You based your opinion of me based on the fact that i use weblingo, I based it on how I have seen Zokemon act on the forums, there's a huge difference.
Using weblingo on the forums is an act on the forums.
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I am not even going to bother with idiots such as your self since degrading people seems all you are capible of. And just a side note, you are wrong Falco since you get kicked out of the school if your GPA isn't 3.00 or higher.
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Using weblingo on the forums is an act on the forums.
But it isn't overall action on the forums.

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I am not even going to bother with idiots such as your self since degrading people seems all you are capible of. And just a side note, you are wrong Falco since you get kicked out of the school if your GPA isn't 3.00 or higher.
Quite the hypocrite aren't we? Degrading a server is indirectly degrading the owner, obviously, and all you do is say "Ek sucks". A GPA of 3.0 isnt anything special, so it basically only filters out complete *****s.
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Quite the hypocrite aren't we? Degrading a server is indirectly degrading the owner, obviously, and all you do is say "Ek sucks". A GPA of 3.0 isnt anything special, so it basically only filters out complete *****s.
Are you in highschool even? Public school grades ALOT easier. If you miss a single assignment here, you are ****ed.
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Yes, im a sophmore. I geuss i wouldn't know how private school grades, I'll admit, but still, a B average isn't anything to brag about, is what I am saying.
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Yes, im a sophmore. I geuss i wouldn't know how private school grades, I'll admit, but still, a B average isn't anything to brag about, is what I am saying.
What classes are you taking?
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What classes are you taking?
In the current semester:
PDM, Chemistry, English 10, Choir, History, and Mass Media.
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I took trig in my freshman year so I stoped with math.
Other then that, I am taking:
American Lit, US History, Drafting, Design, Theater History, Stage Management and Company.
As you can see I have 2 academic classes and 5 theater classes.
I got done with the required stuff early.
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Old 12-10-2004, 05:03 AM
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