bug or hack!

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Project Glitch

Well if they'd check the logs properly they'd have the proof they want but the laziness in this world is unbelievable.

It is quite difficult to check a nonexistant log.

[MasterNuke]

Anyway... this case is solved... the gloves were found and returned.

[Emily_Cruddas]

Thank you for the info Ed, now i can stop worrying about those two lost weapons since i'll never get to use them.


Perhaps you can tell me what it logs? I'm sure staff can find out if you drop it, if you traded it away (Even if it was a hacker trading your gear will it still be logged?) or even if it was sold?


I'm sure you might find in logs that an item someone once had is just suddenly gone the very next day with no hint as to where it vanished, should that not be the biggest clue that something is wrong?

[Splke]

Now are you going to tell me that Nayoko, one of the most respectable and honest people on Graal is going to lie about making them?

Hahahaha @ that.

[LilNiglet]

Hey I lost the most powerful item in the game, I think I was hacked.

AKA I completely agree with the "stop saying you got hacked" opinion. Nobody in their right mind would 'hack' your computer to get into some dumb game account and steal a fake glove or shield or sword. What these people are doing, what you are calling 'hacking,' is often ignorance on your part. These keyloggers and trojans can't be run without your help. The entire reason a trojan is called a trojan is because someone gives it to you and you run it, therefore it is your fault you lose whatever you lost. It's happened to me before, when I was less educated about such things :P

In other words, smarten up about what people send you and what you run. Never run what people you don't know send you. If you must, always keep your virus scanner up to date and manually scan files you get from those people.

[falco10291029]

Originally Posted by LilNiglet

Hey I lost the most powerful item in the game, I think I was hacked.

AKA I completely agree with the "stop saying you got hacked" opinion. Nobody in their right mind would 'hack' your computer to get into some dumb game account and steal a fake glove or shield or sword. What these people are doing, what you are calling 'hacking,' is often ignorance on your part. These keyloggers and trojans can't be run without your help. The entire reason a trojan is called a trojan is because someone gives it to you and you run it, therefore it is your fault you lose whatever you lost. It's happened to me before, when I was less educated about such things :P

In other words, smarten up about what people send you and what you run. Never run what people you don't know send you. If you must, always keep your virus scanner up to date and manually scan files you get from those people

If it were 15 years ago, I'd agree with you, but trojans are becoming more advanced, and can jump to you from ANY online application if you don't have a firewall or antivirus. Many online applications don't have protections from this so trojans will just run over to someone else's computer, download a keylogger without you knowing, and before you know it, your passwords are everywhere. There are some people who would get rid of one item so idiots like you people would say "it must be your fault, it's impossible for anyone to do something like make 1 item go away". Trust me, my dad is has done computer engineering, computer programming, has been taught how to hack or do things like that, and he has told me about several ways these things can happen. open up your minds people, there are losers out there who will hack literally 1 item. Anyone who wishes to argue this hadbetter have signifigant evidence to disprove me because i know what I am talkign about more than most of you computerilliterate people.

[BLOODY-SWORD]

I lost a master key in a simmilar way, i died in a map and then when i tried to get into the house i noticed that i didnt have the key, i know that when you die things like keys arent supposed to drop, but i had no money so maybe some bug took the key and destroyed it or something, i MIGHT have sold it by accident too to an NPC but im sure that i would have noticed, it might have been some other reason.
PS: Alot of people have PMed me telling me that their items randomly went missing... i think that somebody should look into the problem and find out what's going on.