why kill v5

[6sixty6]

why are yall killing v5, over 1.4 of all graalins use v5 cuz v6 is still so ****ing bugged out its not funny

[6sixty6]

why do i keep getting this v6 migration crap, to a site that dont have the real downlod like for a v6

[cbk1994]

Not sure what you mean by "over 1.4" since that doesn't make sense in any way but about 80% of Era was using v6 last time I checked (a few months ago).

[6sixty6]

mend 1/4 and in one forth as in a quarter

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by 6sixty6

mend 1/4 and in one forth as in a quarter

wat the

[6sixty6]

v5 ran so much smoother, i mean for **** sake i dont have "open gl" graphics so v6 dont run very well,

[Tim_Rocks]

v5 was blocked for trials only and during the disconnection a popup is displayed to notify them. The reason it's being blocked is because current hacks only work on v5 (correct me if I'm wrong?) and by blocking v5 for trials we are decreasing the hacking that goes on. Players wouldn't want to risk their own accounts, obviously, so they use trials.

Best guess though, that's the only reason I'd want v5 removed.

[ilovegirlzz]

the hacks cant be that bad..all they do is summon a bunch of pixels and lag **** out.

[Tim_Rocks]

It's actually been removed, but that doesn't mean two weeks from now Stefan won't disables v5 completely.

[ilovegirlzz]

wow so now im forced to use *** ass v6....no fair guys

[WillaWonka]

Originally Posted by ilovegirlzz

wow so now im forced to use *** ass v6....no fair guys

Get a better computer...
Cause windows 95 called me yesterday, kept harassing me tryna find all those who didnt update from that to the new windows 8...

I'll contact them about you.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by WillaWonka

Get a better computer...
Cause windows 95 called me yesterday, kept harassing me tryna find all those who didnt update from that to the new windows 8...

I'll contact them about you.

Windows 8 is trash :|

Not helping anyone's case with that comparison XD

[Tim_Rocks]

what's so bad about it?

[kia345]

How dare the client update and we be expected to use the most recent release! This is so unfair, I wasn't aware I was playing COMMUNIST graal or something

[Tim_Rocks]

Yeah! How dare they make updates to improve the game, they should be ashamed and possibly stoned to death!

[bloodykiller]

except a couple small details v6 is better. unless you have 16gb ram or something you can't raid and stream stuff at the same time on v5

[ilovegirlzz]

i just dont like it ok...same reason i didnt like v5 but they forced you to update and then boom. New updates can suck guys..look at IOS 6

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by ilovegirlzz

i just dont like it ok...same reason i didnt like v5 but they forced you to update and then boom. New updates can suck guys..look at IOS 6

[DustyPorViva]

Technically every new version is forced onto users... or else we'd still all be using v2.

[shrimps]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Technically every new version is forced onto users... or else we'd still all be using v2.

Best version ever.

[ilovegirlzz]

lmaoo every comment getting deleted

[WillaWonka]

The forums are suppose to be used for insulting and slander

what is this new outbreak of enforcement!??!?!

[bloodykiller]

i'm sure that out of those 15 comments only a couple were slanderous xD the admin's mouse must've gone crazy

[Cow2001]

i think the question is why can't we use v2 or v4????
i liked them much better rly

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

i think the question is why can't we use v2 or v4????
i liked them much better rly

stohp it already

[Cow2001]

no you stop it, im allowed to post my opinions about the game

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

no you stop it, im allowed to post my opinions about the game

Presumably, among other things, a giant lack of security updates, a lack of functionality with new scripting, and general improvements (or what the developers assume are improvements) on the software.

Didn't you quit the game like six times already in the past two months?

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

no you stop it, im allowed to post my opinions about the game

Your opinions are wrong though.

[Cow2001]

Originally Posted by Scoper

Didn't you quit the game like six times already in the past two months?

do i know you??
I did say i was taking a break from the graal forum but that was over 6 months ago!

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Your opinions are wrong though.

sorry i didn't know you have a monopoly on the truth around here.

[WillaWonka]

^ ^ Tell me why rogue is on ur signature. o.O

[Cow2001]

i'll respond to your points.
i'm a player, not a developer.
thats why things like new scripting and improvements for developers should be beyond me, they are just things in the background.

the only part that really concerns me and other regular players about the client is how it looks and feels. on this aspect i don't think v5 and v6 improved things at all, and this is why i prefer the other versions (and i know i'm not alone on this!).

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

i'll respond to your points.
i'm a player, not a developer.
thats why things like new scripting and improvements for developers should be beyond me, they are just things in the background.

the only part that really concerns me and other regular players about the client is how it looks and feels. on this aspect i don't think v5 and v6 improved things at all, and this is why i prefer the other versions (and i know i'm not alone on this!).

w0rd.

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

i'll respond to your points.
i'm a player, not a developer.
thats why things like new scripting and improvements for developers should be beyond me, they are just things in the background.

the only part that really concerns me and other regular players about the client is how it looks and feels. on this aspect i don't think v5 and v6 improved things at all, and this is why i prefer the other versions (and i know i'm not alone on this!).

Visually and aesthetically, perhaps you're right. But you probably also wouldn't like thousands of trial hackers running around messing up your gameplay.
Furthermore, new updates (generally?) meant newer/more scripting options, which means the developers can do more stuff. For you.

What's more important, a good game, or a good shell around it?
Also, don't speak for all 'regular' players. I prefer v5 and v6 over previous versions, and am sure some others do as well.

Finally..while I agree that for a non-staff player, development is a background thing, don't think for a second it doesn't directly affect you. To think so would be incredibly dumb

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Scoper

Visually and aesthetically, perhaps you're right. But you probably also wouldn't like thousands of trial hackers running around messing up your gameplay.
Furthermore, new updates (generally?) meant newer/more scripting options, which means the developers can do more stuff. For you.

What's more important, a good game, or a good shell around it?
Also, don't speak for all 'regular' players. I prefer v5 and v6 over previous versions, and am sure some others do as well.

Finally..while I agree that for a non-staff player, development is a background thing, don't think for a second it doesn't directly affect you. To think so would be incredibly dumb

w0rd.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Scoper

thousands of trial hackers

I would love thousands of trial hackers. I think thousands of any kind of player would be great. Graal can hardly muster scores of players.

And that's why the improved security is a laughable point. There's nothing to secure.

And the development end of it? I'm pretty sure the servers I played on previous clients were just as (if not more) enjoyable than what passes now.

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by kia345

I would love thousands of trial hackers. I think thousands of any kind of player would be great. Graal can hardly muster scores of players.

And that's why the improved security is a laughable point. There's nothing to secure.

And the development end of it? I'm pretty sure the servers I played on previous clients were just as (if not more) enjoyable than what passes now.

Ha, yeah, thousands might be a large overstatement. But,any hackers is still bad.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by kia345

I would love thousands of trial hackers. I think thousands of any kind of player would be great. Graal can hardly muster scores of players.

Uh, by thousands, he means a couple of players who just get banned over and over again. Sure the total could be a thousand, but it's really just a few players who get banned and keep coming back on another trial. And around the circle goes!

Originally Posted by kia345

And the development end of it? I'm pretty sure the servers I played on previous clients were just as (if not more) enjoyable than what passes now.

Uh, would you still rather be using GS1??

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Uh, would you still rather be using GS1??

I would.
While GS2 has its advantages, its introduction has had some significantly negative results.
GS2 scripts can't be used in offline editors. This pretty much killed the prospect of player-created content (as opposed to LAT-created), which in my opinion contibuted a lot to the spirit of the game.

Also, forcing completed servers to convert all of their scripts first to support an NPC Server and then to GScript2 unfortunately had a few casualties.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Scoper

But you probably also wouldn't like thousands of trial hackers running around messing up your gameplay.

The only hacks that ruin our gameplay on Zod apparently still work on v6.

Originally Posted by Scoper

Furthermore, new updates (generally?) meant newer/more scripting options, which means the developers can do more stuff. For you.

Right, because v5 was totally pushed to its limit.

Originally Posted by Scoper

What's more important, a good game, or a good shell around it?

A good game, obviously.

[Cow2001]

Originally Posted by Scoper

Visually and aesthetically, perhaps you're right. But you probably also wouldn't like thousands of trial hackers running around messing up your gameplay.

'hackers' were never that big of an issue, even before p2p.
i never minded them much really. they never really ruined the game for other players, and it was sometimes fun to see some guy come on and do some cool effects

Originally Posted by Scoper

Furthermore, new updates (generally?) meant newer/more scripting options, which means the developers can do more stuff. For you.

only potentially. look at graal some years ago and look at it now, can you really say we have more quality content in total than before (with 'inferior' scripting.

Originally Posted by Scoper

What's more important, a good game, or a good shell around it?

the game, but the shell is still very important

Originally Posted by Scoper

Finally..while I agree that for a non-staff player, development is a background thing, don't think for a second it doesn't directly affect you. To think so would be incredibly dumb

it may potentially affect the players, but not necessarily to a large enough extent to be more important than how the client feels. but anyway as i said i don't think regular players should concern themselves with it.