Graal2001

[Lance]

Originally Posted by brock128

It's not so much that you aren't posting anything as the fact that you are posting nothing other then "work is being done."

Hey, I made a new playerworld that is better then oasis and work is being done on it!!!

If you can't live without details, then it was nice knowing you.

I have already explained that the details (AS SUPER COOL AWESOME SECRETS) are better than "ok here's everything we're going to give you". That spoils the surprise - There's a lot of fun in exploring and discovering.

Loose lips sink ships, after all.

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Also, TO VT WITH LOVE: The multitude of new things is in the timeframe that starts the moment graal2001 went private and ends sometime around this moment, not 'in the last week'. Your assumption is flawed Now, I will ask you nicely to stop posting in this thread. I have nothing I am required to 'prove' or 'show' to you, and this will not change, no matter how many inane replies you make! Thank you for stopping by!

[Zurkiba]

We were told screenshots would be allowed on here...

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

We were told screenshots would be allowed on here...

And when I feel like releasing screenshots or one of my staff members suggests we release screenshots of something and I approve it then ye shall have your screenshots! Neither has occurred yet!

[xAndrewx]

can't u yourself just pst some old screenshots of familier places so people will be happy

[CheeToS2]

Here are a few screenshots:

[Lance]

Originally Posted by CheeToS2

Here are a few screenshots:

Enjoy

[xAndrewx]

I don't really see any difference between 2k1 and Unholy Nation... They are just levels... :o (We want cool scripts like the clock thing!)

[Brad]

those bone caves better be for orcs

[zell12]

They aren't. But you might be able to dominate the kingdom that inhabits them.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by zell12

They aren't. But you might be able to dominate the kingdom that inhabits them.

k good

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Lance

Also, TO VT WITH LOVE: The multitude of new things is in the timeframe that starts the moment graal2001 went private and ends sometime around this moment, not 'in the last week'. Your assumption is flawed Now, I will ask you nicely to stop posting in this thread. I have nothing I am required to 'prove' or 'show' to you, and this will not change, no matter how many inane replies you make! Thank you for stopping by!

Since when do you have the right to be abrasive? You're the one who let it die for so long.


It's nice to finally see some screenshots.

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by CheeToS2

Here are a few screenshots:

That second one sucks =[

[xAndrewx]

i dont like any of it.. well the clock is nifty.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by protagonist

Since when do you have the right to be abrasive? You're the one who let it die for so long.

hi thanks for reading my posts in this thread and comprehending them I really appeciate it

[CheeToS2]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I don't really see any difference between 2k1 and Unholy Nation... They are just levels... :o (We want cool scripts like the clock thing!)

There are plenty of scripts, but I'm not spoiling them all through screenshots. I've already showed you three new ones (although two are subtle). The sundial is not the best there is to offer.

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by Lance

hi thanks for reading my posts in this thread and comprehending them I really appeciate it

OMG LANCE MADE A SPELLING ERROR LETS ALL JUMP ON IT!

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by protagonist

Since when do you have the right to be abrasive? You're the one who let it die for so long.

Originally Posted by brock128

It's not so much that you aren't posting anything as the fact that you are posting nothing other then "work is being done."

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

We still dont believe Lance has done anything.


Edit// As a matter of fact. I havn't seen anything new since my speech a while back

Lance has told us that he's going to improve Graal2001 and make it worthwhile. He's put effort to put himself in a position to do so and restore development. Can't any of you support this? All you seem to have done so far is judge him by what he's done in the past and jump down his throat because of it, completely disregarding the fact that development is taking place: what you originally asked for. I have faith that this effort will be worthwhile and that Lance can get this right, even if you people don't.

[syltburk]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Lance has told us that he's going to improve Graal2001 and make it worthwhile. He's put effort to put himself in a position to do so and restore development. Can't any of you support this? All you seem to have done so far is judge him by what he's done in the past and jump down his throat because of it, completely disregarding the fact that development is taking place: what you originally asked for. I have faith that this effort will be worthwhile and that Lance can get this right, even if you people don't.

But we know how it allways ends, should I give you some examples?

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Lance has told us that he's going to improve Graal2001 and make it worthwhile. He's put effort to put himself in a position to do so and restore development. Can't any of you support this? All you seem to have done so far is judge him by what he's done in the past and jump down his throat because of it, completely disregarding the fact that development is taking place: what you originally asked for. I have faith that this effort will be worthwhile and that Lance can get this right, even if you people don't.

No... it's the fact that Tseng only works when someone is jumping on his back.

What was going on before my speech? Nothing
What happened after my speech? Excalibur was hired

Excalibur was trying to contact Tseng. What did Tseng do? Nothing
What happened after I got onto him about it? Excalibur was contacted and now work is being done on Malenth.

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The simple fact is this. Tseng only jumps to it when someone is stating the faults in his management. He has NOT put himself in a position to restore 2k1. Go on Graal2001 Dev right now and see if he's on. In fact, see if any staff members are on. If a cowardly general makes a cowardly army, then an inactive manager makes an inactive staff.

If you'd look back on the comments of the G2k1 loyalist, you will find that we dont just bash managers. We certainly dont bash managers who are restoring a server we want back. Where is the logic in that? We dont support Tseng because he hasn't done anything to show us that he is working.

We're not judging him for his actions in the past. We're judging his actions now. Lance has been given more chances then any previous manager. He can not neglect his position.

I recently got to tour 2k1 to witness new things that were being put up. I'm not going to tell you anything, do not contact me about it. I saw CheeToS's screenshots and they're all from the old months, pre-speech (excluding the sundial script). Two kingdoms still aren't done. One LAT couldn't possibly do everything on 2k1.

If it took 15 or so months to finish a kingdom and a half then how long will it take to finish another kingdom and a half plus fix the various level bugs found all over the server? Another year? Might as well be playing Graal2006 by then.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

No... it's the fact that Tseng only works when someone is jumping on his back.

What was going on before my speech? Nothing
What happened after my speech? Excalibur was hired

Excalibur was trying to contact Tseng. What did Tseng do? Nothing
What happened after I got onto him about it? Excalibur was contacted and now work is being done on Malenth.

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The simple fact is this. Tseng only jumps to it when someone is stating the faults in his management. He has NOT put himself in a position to restore 2k1. Go on Graal2001 Dev right now and see if he's on. In fact, see if any staff members are on. If a cowardly general makes a cowardly army, then an inactive manager makes an inactive staff.

If you'd look back on the comments of the G2k1 loyalist, you will find that we dont just bash managers. We certainly dont bash managers who are restoring a server we want back. Where is the logic in that? We dont support Tseng because he hasn't done anything to show us that he is working.

We're not judging him for his actions in the past. We're judging his actions now. Lance has been given more chances then any previous manager. He can not neglect his position.

I recently got to tour 2k1 to witness new things that were being put up. I'm not going to tell you anything, do not contact me about it. I saw CheeToS's screenshots and they're all from the old months, pre-speech (excluding the sundial script). Two kingdoms still aren't done. One LAT couldn't possibly do everything on 2k1.

If it took 15 or so months to finish a kingdom and a half then how long will it take to finish another kingdom and a half plus fix the various level bugs found all over the server? Another year? Might as well be playing Graal2006 by then.

Don't take credit where it isn't due.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Lance

Don't take credit where it isn't due.

Wow, that's your reply for all I said.

After certain events took place (you know as well do I) you was noted for saying 'I'm going to shut Zurkiba up'. After that you hired Excalibur and posted your history lesson on the first page.

Then Excalibur went days looking for you. I came on 2k2 when you were on and told you about the situation. Later I was banned on 2k1 Dev (then unbanned shortly after) for "harassing you".

So I'll take your advice and I wont take credit where it isn't due, which I've been doing for some time now (if not my whole life)

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

I wont take credit where it isn't due, which I've been doing for some time now (if not my whole life)

Y'know, I really don't think this reads like you meant it to.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Y'know, I really don't think this reads like you meant it to.

If you take it to a literal sense, then it doesn't make sense. So yeah, as long as people understand it was meant to contradict what he said by saying I've been taking my own credit when it's due my whole life.

[brock128]

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Originally Posted by Lance

If you can't live without details, then it was nice knowing you.

I have already explained that the details (AS SUPER COOL AWESOME SECRETS) are better than "ok here's everything we're going to give you". That spoils the surprise - There's a lot of fun in exploring and discovering.

Loose lips sink ships, after all.

Except we're not given ANYTHING. Not one screenshot, idea, or anything that proves you've been doing anything other then twiddling your thumbs and playing that ball game.

And quite honestly, I doubt anything with the graal engine could be a SUPER COOL AWESOME SECRET THAT SHOULD NEVER BE SPOILED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

I have nothing I am required to 'prove' or 'show' to you, and this will not change, no matter how many inane replies you make!

You don't know the first thing about hyping

Originally Posted by Lance

hi thanks for reading my posts in this thread and comprehending them I really appeciate it

You have just as much right to order him as I have to order the president

Originally Posted by Skyld

Lance has told us that he's going to improve Graal2001 and make it worthwhile. He's put effort to put himself in a position to do so and restore development. Can't any of you support this? All you seem to have done so far is judge him by what he's done in the past and jump down his throat because of it, completely disregarding the fact that development is taking place: what you originally asked for. I have faith that this effort will be worthwhile and that Lance can get this right, even if you people don't.

The thing is, it is so easy to go into Graal 2001 dev, press alt-3, and prove us all wrong. And yet they didn't, and aren't.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

No... it's the fact that Tseng only works when someone is jumping on his back.

What was going on before my speech? Nothing
What happened after my speech? Excalibur was hired

Excalibur was trying to contact Tseng. What did Tseng do? Nothing
What happened after I got onto him about it? Excalibur was contacted and now work is being done on Malenth.

Thank you for saying what I have had trouble saying.

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EDIT: Misread when the screenshots were taken. Post edited accordingly.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Lance

hi thanks for reading my posts in this thread and comprehending them I really appeciate it

Why should I listen to what you say? So far it's been a bunch of fallacy.

Originally Posted by Skyld

Lance has told us that he's going to improve Graal2001 and make it worthwhile. He's put effort to put himself in a position to do so and restore development. Can't any of you support this? All you seem to have done so far is judge him by what he's done in the past and jump down his throat because of it, completely disregarding the fact that development is taking place: what you originally asked for. I have faith that this effort will be worthwhile and that Lance can get this right, even if you people don't.

This isn't some underdog project. 2k1 was a popular server and Lance's inaction has prevented it from being revived. His refusal to allow more people work on it and his refusal to step down has pretty much buried it.

[zell12]

I've had enough of this. I hardly even know you fellas, but really, stop this please. This is not helping the situation at all. We are working on finishing the server. I've had a major problem with my Harddrive so that slowed me down alot.

Lance can't do anything without staff, and he has tried numerous times to get some. However, they wern't up to standards.

Just back off, you have no idea what's going on.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by zell12

I've had enough of this. I hardly even know you fellas, but really, stop this please. This is not helping the situation at all. We are working on finishing the server. I've had a major problem with my Harddrive so that slowed me down alot.

Lance can't do anything without staff, and he has tried numerous times to get some. However, they wern't up to standards.

Just back off, you have no idea what's going on.

Sorry, there MUST be something wrong when your staff quit and refuse to come back with only one reason: Poor management

[zell12]

Well, I thought we were talking about the current situation and if there was anything going on. x-x

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by zell12

Well, I thought we were talking about the current situation and if there was anything going on. x-x

Indeed, but my response was towards your
'Tseng has been looking for staff...' comment.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by zell12

Just back off, you have no idea what's going on.

With Tseng in charge, that's not likely to change.

Nobody has briefed us on any progress. He just hasn't met his obligations as a manager. When you take content you didn't make and say you will revive the server, it is an obligation that you do it. You can't just take a nice server that had a run of bad luck and then refuse to let go when you don't fulfill your duties.

[Emily_Cruddas]

Can most of the work be done offline? If someone is able to do that then that may be a reason you don't see staff online very much.


And again, don't hold your breath, sure you may argue and bicker but it will still take a few more months no matter what.

[zell12]

He doesn't have to show you squat. Stop arguing please.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by zell12

He doesn't have to show you squat. Stop arguing please.

True, and we still dont have to believe him.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by zell12

He doesn't have to show you squat.

That may soon change.

Originally Posted by zell12

Stop arguing please.

It's the only way he's going to do anything, if pressure is put on him.

[Griffyn]

<under Pressure.

[zell12]

Well, you are wasting your time because he is doing something.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by zell12

Well, you are wasting your time because he is doing something.

Would he be if we weren't badgering him?

[brock128]

Originally Posted by zell12

He doesn't have to show you squat. Stop arguing please.

This statement is so ironic.

Originally Posted by zell12

Well, you are wasting your time because he is doing something.

Yes he is. I am doing something too, but it isn't exactly productive.

[zell12]

Well, all I can say is that we are doing something, and if you can't wait, thats too bad. Bickering in here will not get anything done faster.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by protagonist

Would he be if we weren't badgering him?

We are making progress. Whether you are badgering us is wholly irrelevant.

However, if you'd like to argue about situations that are not centered in reality, please feel free to.

I am done responding to your posts, now, and shall make this thread decree: for the remainder of this thread, there will be no more slandering/harassment but instead productive discussion about Graal2001. If you wish to continue to bother me, please do so in PMs.