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Old 02-06-2004, 06:25 PM
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If you have low AC it sucks even more. You can get killed by weapons and Flaming Aura.
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Old 02-06-2004, 06:32 PM
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If you have low AC it sucks even more. You can get killed by weapons and Flaming Aura.
Lol this would be true were it not for the fact that low-AC people don't go in Bmode due to harrassment.
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Old 02-06-2004, 07:56 PM
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And GENERALLY (GENERALLY) the people with low ACs are the RPing people who play Kingdoms to have fun, not to pwn everything in sight without getting hit once. For example, where's the challenge in taking on t rexes with AC -30 so that they can't hit you? There's no tactics: you stand there, slash/spin around non stop no matter how many surround you, you kill them all, wow that was fun.
Also, they spend more time RPing and having fun than others who dungeon non stop and get loads of leet items as a result of having no real fun. I know people will say that they have fun with their leet items (mostly due to PKing), but it isn't the same.
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Old 02-06-2004, 08:05 PM
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And GENERALLY (GENERALLY) the people with low ACs are the RPing people who play Kingdoms to have fun, not to pwn everything in sight without getting hit once. For example, where's the challenge in taking on t rexes with AC -30 so that they can't hit you? There's no tactics: you stand there, slash/spin around non stop no matter how many surround you, you kill them all, wow that was fun.
Also, they spend more time RPing and having fun than others who dungeon non stop and get loads of leet items as a result of having no real fun. I know people will say that they have fun with their leet items (mostly due to PKing), but it isn't the same.
Yeah...unfortunate that GK's development slanted steeply towards items and stuff instead of RP =/
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:03 PM
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Yeah, which is a pity considering GK is meant to be a roleplaying server.
But, its been classicised, and now PKing is everywhere. In a way, it's just a better looking, less linear classic server.
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Classic was better, there were more interesting houses etc.
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Old 02-07-2004, 06:32 AM
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Flaming aura is fine. And if you lag from it, you really shouldn't play GK, since it's really a simple spell as far as graphics are concerned.
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Old 02-07-2004, 07:38 AM
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This could be the best time as any to tone more than just a spell or two down, the clensing pool doesn't work so folks think twice about getting prepped weapons and wishing to trade later.

The AC should have a limit and only have weapons blessed, that would even alot of players out since the average is +5 for a blessing.

No more prep weapons, EA's and whatever, stat potions can be made easy to get, This lets other new players get silver plate mail and already have good defence from that.

Since spells are lost after anyone hits you (yea, even Pmoders cause a distration and you lose your spell) Fixing this game up just right is all that's needed now to make it more RP centered and to stop all the PKing madness that cropped up since awhile ago.



This would also even out the way pricing on items is done, Mithril would be valuable still, but not impossible to obtain without 700+ IWD's (which annoyingly some jerks seem to laugh at your offer and demand more, just say your not selling the darn thing for gosh sake!) Berwean would have almost equal stats to gold plate, but still be better for the fact of it's harder to get and it has better armour and speed+1 bonuses.


So that's all i have on this topic, Any thoughts to add?
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:24 AM
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Flaming Aura is funny... and it may be abit overpowered, but its just a self-defense-ish prayer... also, it shows all those dual row ogma blessers whos boss

But if you lag from Aura, turn off light effects... and... unno, get a new computer you *******.
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Old 02-07-2004, 03:01 PM
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This could be the best time as any to tone more than just a spell or two down, the clensing pool doesn't work so folks think twice about getting prepped weapons and wishing to trade later.
What do spells have to do with weapons, and why should they be toned down?

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The AC should have a limit and only have weapons blessed, that would even alot of players out since the average is +5 for a blessing.
Not as such... you can use EWs to get your wc up, without prepared weapons only your phys-level can really boost it up, so the strong players will still have an advantage, and the physically weak ones can't even improve a weapon for their defense.

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No more prep weapons, EA's and whatever, stat potions can be made easy to get, This lets other new players get silver plate mail and already have good defence from that.
What do stat potions have to do with the protection from a silver platemail? And they give quite a bonus, so they should be rare to some extend.

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Since spells are lost after anyone hits you (yea, even Pmoders cause a distration and you lose your spell) Fixing this game up just right is all that's needed now to make it more RP centered and to stop all the PKing madness that cropped up since awhile ago.
I agree that the system should be tuned to make spellcasters and fighters equal. But I doubt removing prepped weapons will improve RPing - pkers will not rp, they will just do what they can to have what they call fun and annoy others.
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Old 02-12-2004, 12:15 AM
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New players want the power gamers to be handicapped, spell casters want warriors to be nerfed, and the warriors want spells to be toned down, yet no one is willing to sacrifice something of their own.

The same argument has been brought up numerous times..to no avail. I can guarantee you that the newbies won't be complaining when they're decked out in mithril and other alchemy items. Gravator, in the time it took you to type up your reply, you could have gained atleast 100,000 experience + quite a bit of platinum. The items won't buy themselves, you need to sacrifice vast amounts your time to get ahead.

Everyone needs to quit thinking of themselves and either find an equal compromise, or shut the **** up.
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Old 02-12-2004, 01:43 AM
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New players want the power gamers to be handicapped, spell casters want warriors to be nerfed, and the warriors want spells to be toned down, yet no one is willing to sacrifice something of their own.
The problem is that there is the possibility of an unbalance at some points, be it because GK is not CF, or because something has been nerfed down in the past, creating the unbalance in the first place.
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Old 02-12-2004, 02:49 AM
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I have weekend access only, Doubt i could be gaining levels any other time Knumb.

And from what your saying you think of others yourself? If so then i'm sure everyone will love to see you bring the basic armor and a few thousand plats to any level one new player asking "where is the town of piety???" (i actually saw someone shouting that)



Anyways it's not too easy gaining levels on peaceful mode, you get small amounts of exp even with a level 3 map, so folks feel the only way to get levels a bit faster is to use Bmode, But problems happen there too, PK types don't leave them alone and supposedly "forced that nub into pmode", and arguments like this get started.


I'm not sure how this server will be when graal3D comes out so getting everything fixed here seems to be going slowly, I'm sure it will all be taken care of AFTER G3D is opened and as stefan finishes the problems on this server, They can be added to G3D also.
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Old 02-12-2004, 05:18 AM
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