Graal

[TifaKhan]

Originally posted by Minoc

I was referring to constructive criticism.

Either way, we as paying customers should be allowed to critisize if we wish, but i respect Kaimetsu and the position he holds and i wont go into it here.
But as i have stated once before, if my local supermarket operated like Graal does and gave me the same bad service, i would go to the complaints section, and if nothing was done, shop elsewhere.
Only the fact i'm a terrible Graal Addict keeps me here, considering my so called Graal friends one by one keep stabbing me in the back.
And the players? Psht i wont go into them.
Lets just say i reply to their pm's now:
What part of being a Manager dont you understand?
What part of i have a server to run dont you understand?
What part of i hire staff to help players dont you understand?

[Minoc]

Originally posted by TifaKhan
Either way, we as paying customers should be allowed to critisize if we wish, but i respect Kaimetsu and the position he holds and i wont go into it here.

However, flaming for no reason IS illegal.
Hardly anything in his post was true.

Let's say someone in the supermarket accidently charged you for the wrong item, would you go to the managment and yell something like "OMG YOU ARE FREAKIN' THIEVES YOU SHOULD GO TO JAIL YOU SUCK"?

[TifaKhan]

Originally posted by Minoc

However, flaming for no reason IS illegal.
Hardly anything in his post was true.

Let's say someone in the supermarket accidently charged you for the wrong item, would you go to the managment and yell something like "OMG YOU ARE FREAKIN' THIEVES YOU SHOULD GO TO JAIL YOU SUCK"?

Theres nothing wrong with constructive criticism.


And no, actually i go to the complaints desk and say excuse me but i want a refund.
And unlike Graal, i would get instant service.

[Minoc]

But his criticism wasn't constructive criticism
He acted in the manner of my example :O

[TifaKhan]

Originally posted by Minoc
But his criticism wasn't constructive criticism
He acted in the manner of my example :O

In that i agree.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Snakeandy7
Starting a fight Kai, Grow up, ive got nothing more to say to you.

It's not immature for me to correct your childish lies.

On-topic: Criticism is fine. Criticism is useful. Personally I always welcome criticism - of my scripts or my job as moderator - because it often allows me to make positive changes. However, we all know that there are two types of criticism. One expresses the user's thoughts in a rational, peaceful way, while the other expresses only childish rage. I will never delete a justified example of the former, but I would be guilty of negligence if I ignored the latter. Sometimes it will be deleted outright, and sometimes it will be countered as it was here. I'm glad to see that most people recognised his spiteful rantings for the garbage they really are.

[TB3]

Im not reading through all 6 pages of this stuff but I do agree on one part that there is not enough training for newbies. I think that the 3d Demo level should have a seperate button or something labled 3d demo and the original training levels should be re-made a little better with more training and added to the training mode in graal again. Instead of having them embedded in graal you could just have them as regular levels in the tutorial folder so the could be edited also for even better player made tutorials.

[GhettoChild]

I'm nice. I always help new people on GK whenever I can, heck, I've even given away Bile+2 nags, +3-+4 gov bows and everything so they can level high enough to go on an immense with me

[MarkB]

i really find it funny how on the graal forums...99.99999% of the forums end of turning into people fighting over something as stupid as this

[konidias]

Servers should have their own training level, or way to teach you how to play. Because nowadays, most servers are quite different, and they will just get even more different as time goes on. It would be silly to make a default training level, because eventually, there will be barely any servers using that stuff.

It shouldn't be Stefan's responsibility to teach you how to play... as of right now, he's working on GK, which isn't like old Graal, so the old training level would do no good for him. PW owners should just make their own. Case closed.

[MarkB]

Originally posted by konidias
Servers should have their own training level, or way to teach you how to play. Because nowadays, most servers are quite different, and they will just get even more different as time goes on. It would be silly to make a default training level, because eventually, there will be barely any servers using that stuff.

It shouldn't be Stefan's responsibility to teach you how to play... as of right now, he's working on GK, which isn't like old Graal, so the old training level would do no good for him. PW owners should just make their own. Case closed.

so true

[TB3]

Originally posted by konidias
Servers should have their own training level, or way to teach you how to play. Because nowadays, most servers are quite different, and they will just get even more different as time goes on. It would be silly to make a default training level, because eventually, there will be barely any servers using that stuff.

It shouldn't be Stefan's responsibility to teach you how to play... as of right now, he's working on GK, which isn't like old Graal, so the old training level would do no good for him. PW owners should just make their own. Case closed.

I agree with you there but to learn basics like walking, sword play, picking up rocks and objects, bow and bomb using, and even using S+A to drop objects could be including in a decent offline tutorial would help alot of people considering most servers still run the same default system. However I didnt say it should be stefans responsibilty. But each server should have their own individual training levels also as many servers have seperate commands, systems, and npcs.

I would however like you to be able to change the level you start on when you press the training button that would also help me immensely I hate having to load the same level everytime I open graal to load my test system and npcs.