New Manager

[Kill]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

I could have walked around on Classic with the 2 or 3 people that were on each day over the past couple of weeks until my virtual feet bled, but no amount of walking around on the server was going to get my review input to be swayed by something like
"This tile looks like it's been inactive for 4 years"
but since merely being on the server didn't seem to be productively moving anything along, it was a good thing that the people still had a voice.

I meant your team didn't ask every staff for their views on the matter - especially the ones with the highest administrative privileges (such as Stryker and Ranger), they also didn't look at other Classic forums such as the GC forums since looking at private forums only show a positive light on development and never the reality of things (for example the awful HD which could've been shown to you in a good light when in fact it was anything but).

The moments in which I was able to get in contact with a tiny mass of people on Classic at one time, all I got were a 3-4 man strong set of "DC Supporters" who only moaned and complained how they wanted DC as Manager, but honestly avoided most of my questions by giving deflective answers, so I knew that DC would never get manager as he were one of the people in the room, as well. You can't hope to reach the top if you deflect everything.

I can't talk for everyone else but I personally did reply to questions that were asked, and I did compare with other candidates and gave a justified reason as to why I believed this person would've been better than another person. If they gave deflective answers; you should've done your part and said that so they could answer the question you were trying to imply to avoid them changing the direction of their answer.

Originally Posted by GeminiP2P

I thought everyone was suppose to vote for Storm to stay as Manager or vote DC, Stryker or Thor as a new manager. Don't really know where having two Managers came from and it's a pretty stupid outcome since this didn't go as planned, maybe the new PWA's did something stupid like ignoring all the votes and just deciding that having two Managers is acceptable which clearly seems it isn't because it looks like they didn't do what they were required to do. This is what I think for now maybe i missed some stuff.

I suppose you were told to post here too, right Gem?

[jorollychu]

gotta agree with luda

[BlackSolider]

True, we should probably give em some time before we hang em.

[GeminiP2P]

I thought everyone was suppose to vote for Storm to stay as Manager or vote DC, Stryker or Thor as a new manager. Don't really know where having two Managers came from and it's a pretty stupid outcome since this didn't go as planned, maybe the new PWA's did something stupid like ignoring all the votes and just deciding that having two Managers is acceptable which clearly seems it isn't because it looks like they didn't do what they were required to do. This is what I think for now maybe i missed some stuff.

[GeminiP2P]

I came here myself to check it out and i've been reading some of the pages but not all and it looks all wrong! And anyway in my opinion the decision made looks like a wrong one. Whoever made the decision must have thought like "oh lets add Thor as Manager it will probly be for the best". I don't think it is and i've kind of noticed a drop in playercount since this decision was made. Oh well I guess this will carry on till something is done about it. In the mean time complaining will continue.

[DutchGuy]

I remember Master Storm sending me a PM somewhere around the 30th of september last year 2008 saying

Regarding my Activity

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I saw you post regarding my activity level being greater on the forums than on the server. If you weren't already aware I recently moved into a new job and apartment in London and we don't yet have an internet connection set up (in fact we've only just got a phone line up). The only time I can get online is during work, and even then I have to fit what I do around my work. As you can probably appreciate I'm not currently able to get online.

All staff were made aware of the situation beforehand, and I've been in constant email contact with both Bell and Thor about the state/progress of the server.

Realise that I want to be on Graal, but in the short term am unable to do so.

So the admins were aware of his situation, but you can't say that this moving takes 4 years?, it seems master storm has a suitable explanation to everything that heads his way. Problem is, other admins are aware of what he's doing yet they let it slip by.

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by DutchGuy

So the admins were aware of his situation, but you can't say that this moving takes 4 years?, it seems master storm has a suitable explanation to everything that heads his way. Problem is, other admins are aware of what he's doing yet they let it slip by.

I knew about it. I openly supported Storm in the private review thread. We need to make that thread public, show just what I'm talking about.

[xnervNATx]

what do f6 do can you tell me

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

what do f6 do can you tell me

Logs into Client RC.

[StrykerTFFD]

I'd like to note that TS in no way defended the fact I said there was no discussion in that thread, did not respond to the first part of my post. I guess it's easier to ignore the truth than admit to it.

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

I'd like to note that TS in no way defended the fact I said there was no discussion in that thread, did not respond to the first part of my post. I guess it's easier to ignore the truth than admit to it.

I never defended it for the same reason I didn't post in it: It wasn't a discussion, it was exactly what I responded to your section paragraph about (thus meaning that I did actually in someway respond to your first as well as second). It's "easier" to call it a discussion since that's what it was set up for, and named, than it is to say "The thread that went nowhere"

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

All of the highest admins (Including Stryker and Ranger) were given access to a private forum created by Darlene by request of Bell in which there was a thread that held discussions between the PWA and staff. This forum was actually the idea of one of the staff, as it were.

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

I never defended it for the same reason I didn't post in it: It wasn't a discussion, it was exactly what I responded to your section paragraph about (thus meaning that I did actually in someway respond to your first as well as second). It's "easier" to call it a discussion since that's what it was set up for, and named, than it is to say "The thread that went nowhere"

Took you less than three posts to make yourself look like a fool.

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

Took you less than three posts to make yourself look like a fool.

And I can take less than half a post to point out where you've screwed up your response: You should read the final sentence in the second quote in your post before this one.

[Remonq]

earlier in the thread something was said by one of the PWA that the players opinion doesn't matter, but the way i see it, almost every single classic staff member, including the Admins is opposed to this solution.

i'd also like to say that i never once talked to any of the PWA's concerning the review, not even Bell.

[Bell]

Originally Posted by Remonq

earlier in the thread something was said by one of the PWA that the players opinion doesn't matter, but the way i see it, almost every single classic staff member, including the Admins is opposed to this solution.

i'd also like to say that i never once talked to any of the PWA's concerning the review, not even Bell.

I wasn't in the review. Now everyone just stop this fighting before I blow.
You all claim to be adults and every one of you have to admit I've treated you as such unless you acted like an 8 year old so stop acting like one.

1. yes, the review was flawed
2. yes, the pwa made mistakes in the review.
3. yes, the staff of Classic are also to blame for some of the mistakes.
4. yes, player opinion matters
5. no, DC is not a cheerleader, not a single person caught the reference I even meant "Save the cheerleader, save the world. I apologize to DC.
6. This is not over yet because quite frankly I'm not pleased at all with the end result but not a thing is going to happen differantly until I personally speak to all parties involved.
7. I don't think any of you realize it but every single one of you is becoming a cause of Classic's eminent demise.