A note to the updates.

[Minomato]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

A solution to stop laming, only allow people to have their money/exp given after winning/losing each round Though it won't completely stop it, it will lessen how many people do it.

Nah, I don't like this idea too much. If you disconnect in the middle of a match, from lagging or needing to leave, that would get very annoying (if it kept messing up how much money/exp you were to receive). Not to mention, if one team was still laming, once the victim team got sick of being lamed and left (not getting any exp or money by doing so,) the lamers could take the bases and get rewarded. (I know both teams receive their money/exp when they lose or win, but the point is one team might constantly keep the bases from being controlled while they lame the other team so that they can get the other team to leave.) The lamers, either way, will get the same amount of exp and money, but at least with the way it is now, the other team can at least have some compensation for their kills.

[Soala]

Finaly people realized: Killing over and over is not the point of a game.
Even if you like it, you'll be bored after some weeks of playing / years for the nolives.

Zone used to be really attractive for me, but now I realized that my place is somewhere else: GK

Aeko is right, RECOLORS are not an update, and having more OMG COOL clothes is not the point. Zone need big updates, like the ones Tig is doing over Graal Kingdoms.

[noublipasa]

Originally Posted by alexandralove

Finaly people realized: Killing over and over is not the point of a game.
Even if you like it, you'll be bored after some weeks of playing / years for the nolives.

Zone used to be really attractive for me, but now I realized that my place is somewhere else: GK

Aeko is right, RECOLORS are not an update, and having more OMG COOL clothes is not the point. Zone need big updates, like the ones Tig is doing over Graal Kingdoms.

The solution to our problem is there : get Dan working ! It seems the only thing he is doing now is giving his little brother free permanent Redpistole and Bluepistole but that's the only reason why he logged on this month.

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by noublipasa

The solution to our problem is there : get Dan working ! It seems the only thing he is doing now is giving his little brother free permanent Redpistole and Bluepistole but that's the only reason why he logged on this month.

AbuseFTW

[Minomato]

Originally Posted by alexandralove

Zone need big updates, like the ones Tig is doing over Graal Kingdoms.

There won't be any "big" updates any time soon with the current disorganized, underpopulated development team. We'll probably try to do something about that, though.

[MiniOne]

My solution is, get Tig over here to help, but sadly Dan hates Tig

[Shadow5596321]

Dan hates everybody that's better than him.

[Minomato]

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321

Dan hates everybody that's better than him.

I don't think telling Dan off is going to make him work harder. If anything, he'd probably delay more to spite people. If you want a request answered, being polite about it is the best way to go about such matters. (Alas, it is difficult to be polite, sometimes.)

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Minomato

I don't think telling Dan off is going to make him work harder. If anything, he'd probably delay more to spite people. If you want a request answered, being polite about it is the best way to go about such matters. (Alas, it is difficult to be polite, sometimes.)

Being polite is not always needed. If Dan delay'd simply to spite people, it would only show how ignorant he can be.

[Minomato]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

Being polite is not always needed. If Dan delay'd simply to spite people, it would only show how ignorant he can be.

No matter which way it goes, if he won't get work done, we're at a loss, regardless as to what is proven. I understand that he can still delay even if we go about it on a less blunt scale, but he'd be more inclined to do so if we approach him in a harsh, demanding, and whiney manner.

[Clockwork]

Me and C: could work on it if we could get hired. I wouldn't mind working here, I will ask stefan next time I see him.

[bahamutstevetff]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

Me and C: could work on it if we could get hired. I wouldn't mind working here, I will ask stefan next time I see him.

aslong as we dont get none of that emo music XD :P <3

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

aslong as we dont get none of that emo music XD :P <3

2bad x3 U SHALL CRY WHEN U KILL >

[Gambet]

I will be doing some scripting for Zone again.

[bahamutstevetff]

Originally Posted by Gambet

I will be doing some scripting for Zone again.

PRAISE BE, you was around in zones good times, so i should think you know how to save it, I i have faith in you king of strafe!

[MiniOne]

OMG GAMBET
YAY
Go Gambet, Aeko would be good too OMG Zone might be good again.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

OMG GAMBET
YAY
Go Gambet, Aeko would be good too OMG Zone might be good again.

Graphics and scripts aren't going to save the server

[RevolutionJS]

Originally Posted by kia345

Graphics and scripts aren't going to save the server

Maybe they will if they are good enough.

[noublipasa]

Originally Posted by kia345

Graphics and scripts aren't going to save the server

What do you think will save it ? ...

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by noublipasa

What do you think will save it ? ...

• drop debug and move all dev to main
• hire a better manager
• get a development team like on classic servers.

ect, can't come up with more right now.

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

[*]drop debug and move all dev to main

No point really, in fact it might probably hinder development.

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

[*]hire a better manager

You still consider him the manager?

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

[*] get a development team like on classic servers.

You know....a development team sort of makes graphics and scripts...

[MiniOne]

Personally if Zone raises to a certain peak and I enjoy it once again, I may start to advertise for it, scripts and updates are required before I'm going to do anything though.

[RevolutionJS]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

Personally if Zone raises to a certain peak and I enjoy it once again, I may start to advertise for it, scripts and updates are required before I'm going to do anything though.

What is your plan on advertising, ,I would like to help you.

[noublipasa]

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

What is your plan on advertising, ,I would like to help you.

Ok let's say you guys Mini and Revo advertise and get totally new players this is what will happen : they will come on zone and go on iricia probably and then what ? They will get killed by Baris and Monokiller 50 times laming the spawnbases 24h/24h and they will just quit.
Conclusion : we need iricia win points so that the lamers move from spawnbases to play iricia like it is intented. Now there should be something like if you take 0 bases but your team wins you get really not much points, now if you get allot = allot of points of course. And no perm weps just like Tsunami's idea but not only for the holidays in my opinion.

But that doesn't mean I think advertising is a bad idea don't get me wrong.

[MiniOne]

Originally Posted by noublipasa

Ok let's say you guys Mini and Revo advertise and get totally new players this is what will happen : they will come on zone and go on iricia probably and then what ? They will get killed by Baris and Monokiller 50 times laming the spawnbases 24h/24h and they will just quit.
Conclusion : we need iricia win points so that the lamers move from spawnbases to play iricia like it is intented. Now there should be something like if you take 0 bases but your team wins you get really not much points, now if you get allot = allot of points of course. And no perm weps just like Tsunami's idea but not only for the holidays in my opinion.

But that doesn't mean I think advertising is a bad idea don't get me wrong.

Well that's why I said significant updates and improvements to be made first, e.g. stop laming.
I don't recommend zone to add any new systems till they've fixed the old ones.

[noublipasa]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

improvements to be made first, e.g. stop laming.

And how would you stop laming ? Just say to zone players : Ok now guys you are not allowed to kill people with photon ok?
You can't stop laming although you can stop base laming

[anubis_wing]

No matter how you look at it. I don't think the updates will care about your notes.

[Minomato]

Originally Posted by anubis_wing

No matter how you look at it. I don't think the updates will care about your notes.

Then let Zone cease to exist if no one is willing to take such thoughts into consideration. What good is a game if it does not serve its players' wants? If you do something for fun, and it fails to supply you with the type of entertainment you want, I know not why to continue to bother with it. You could go right ahead, but I'd be out of there. It's not like this is all we have to pass our time with, but it's a shame to see such effort rot into nothingness.

If we want to shoot laser lassos at vicious alien space cows, you can argue all you want to denounce how absurd it sounds, but the player that wishes for such a bizare idea will never truly enjoy the game unless they are... shooting laser lassos at space cows.
...Okay, maybe bringing up space cows isn't the best method of getting my point across.

[Desear]

Ok, just sayin my two cents. You guys need start taking this into perspective, "Laming" is a part of Zone. And its not why players are leaving. Neither is a lack of Events, or anything like that sort. Updates may play a role not sure. But when I started playing back awhile ago, Updates hardly happened yet, the player count was abundant. I think Zone is dieing because, Graal itself is losing players. Also, all these changes that were made to try to "attract players" might actually be turning them away. I'm just saying thats what I think is going on.

P.S.
Hola, how is life guys?

[MiniOne]

Why not just tell you and your friends to stop, simple done, no more laming >< you do realize that, earlier though there was a little bit of laming, not many got involved in it, another improvement the community.

[noublipasa]

Ok so they have paid real money to use photon and green rifle and you want to tell them to stop using them ?
Nice joke.

Personally I have no problem with so called ¨lamers¨... I actually like fighting photon's with my scifi's .

[MiniOne]

Originally Posted by noublipasa

Ok so they have paid real money to use photon and green rifle and you want to tell them to stop using them ?
Nice joke.

Personally I have no problem with so called ¨lamers¨... I actually like fighting photon's with my scifi's .

You might not have a problem, but imagine a new player just spawning and dying. They'd be like OMG WTF I didn't even get a chance to shot then probably end up quitting. You guys are just being selfish ><

[RealDDc]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

(...They'd be like OMG WTF I didn't even get a chance to shot then probably end up quitting...)

Nur die Harten kommen in den Garten.

[noublipasa]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

You might not have a problem, but imagine a new player just spawning and dying. They'd be like OMG WTF I didn't even get a chance to shot then probably end up quitting. You guys are just being selfish ><

Thats why we should add win point to iricia so that spawnbase lamers let the newbies have a chance lol.

[bahamutstevetff]

there should be medals for certain feats too, like capture 20 bases in one ricia match, hold base one for five minutes, kill three enemies withing 10 seconds. the sort of thing that gets people playing properly.

[MiniOne]

Sorry to be a downer but most people still won't care for win points or medals >< Like honestly.

[bahamutstevetff]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

Sorry to be a downer but most people still won't care for win points or medals >< Like honestly.

not necasarily, people cared qite a bit for the medals when they where first released, but some of them where unobtainable w/o spending money, no prizes for them, achivment points should be a currency, make sure theres an abundance of VERY difficult medals, not "100 kills with sabre" which is easy, something like 300 kills with every weapon in commando class = commando expertise medal, for example, and that with every class, ofcoarse, it would have to be using commando to count, so if you get 300 appirce kills in commando, you would have to get another 300 while in scout to get both medals.

i think im onto something here.

maybe after you have got the expertise medal for a certain class, you unlock a new weapon for that class only, nothing overpowered as such, like maybe for commando, it could just be an LR pulser like weapon with a bit more spread or power, something worth working for.

Also a range of titles that would show in your profile.

maybe like these-

[noublipasa]

Also another idea would be an event in iricia with two random teams and the winning teams advances and gets split up all the time so that players understand how taking bases on iricia can be alot of fun.
Just like the event Jkool hosted on gwars.

[RevolutionJS]

kewl.

[noublipasa]

Nice and I agree with you we need really hard objectives.