New RC

[Alexander]

Originally posted by thelostviking
Alexander iam sry how did you make it?

um for your information I made it not DarkVillin, he just posted the image o.O

Also I believe it's legal to modify the looks of a program.

[Thought]

Originally posted by -Ramirez-

That would seem logical, wouldn't it? :P Except... it's called a palette.

Color table and palette are the same thing, both are correct terms.

Originally posted by Alexander
Also I believe it's legal to modify the looks of a program.

Depends on the programs EULA/License.

[Crono]

Originally posted by Lance


Hehe @ ignorance of how copyrights work.

Im not sure how the copyrights work either and im not sure if this is the copyright for the game or for the site:

copy pasted from graalonline.com

Copyright © 1998-2002 Linux Cyberjoueurs. All Rights Reserved.

It's almost 2004 o_O!

and the copyright on the forums

Copyright ©2000, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
Copyright (C) 1998-2002 Linux cyberjoueurs All Rights Reserved.

then again the RC says 2003..but its in the image so it looks like a double meaning XD!

[Loriel]

Cyberjoueurs created Graal. Thus they have the copyright on it.

[osrs]

Originally posted by Thought

Delphi imported the image Stefan specified into its form resources, either directly from it, or converted it to BMP format, and therefore stored it in the format you see before you.

I do believe that AmonRa worked on this rc, not sure though.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Darenzo
I don't even think Graal is copywritten, they just probably put a fake copyright to scare us like everyone else.

You can legally copyright something just by putting "Copyright Yourname" on it. Like say I make an original artwork, and I put a copyright on it. Then that artwork is legally mine. You don't have to buy a copyright for something like that.

[marcoR]

*waits for Alexander to explain how he did it*

[Duwul]

Is there any place you can find a program that converts a jpeg to hexadecimal code?

[Admins]

Originally posted by konidias


You can legally copyright something just by putting "Copyright Yourname" on it. Like say I make an original artwork, and I put a copyright on it. Then that artwork is legally mine. You don't have to buy a copyright for something like that.

When someone creates something then he automatically gets the copy right on it. It's also possible to go to special places to get the stuff archived there, then it's easier later to use it on courts. We do that with Graal stuff.

[haunter]

Originally posted by Stefan


When someone creates something then he automatically gets the copy right on it. It's also possible to go to special places to get the stuff archived there, then it's easier later to use it on courts. We do that with Graal stuff.

So what happens to stuff we upload to GraalOnline owned servers. Does it become copyright to GO aswell?

[Hevaricubed]

Use a program like PE Editor

Or any other resource program that can handle DFM's (Delphi Forms).

The main background image is a JPEG.
The buttons are BMPs.

Alexander used PE Editor or something like it which opens DFMs to edit the images of his RC.

The rich edit which holds the chat of the other RC's is not in the resource, so its probally created dynamically
(with CreateWindowEx or an OCX)

You can change the font because it uses the ParentFont, which is the TREMOTEFRAME Font.

I dont know why people have a sudden urge to change how the RC looks, in the new graal version RCs will be scripted, so they can look like anything you want x.x

**shadowless im pretty sure that anything make then upload onto a GO server is still copyrighted to the original artist, if you upload something to my ftp, it isnt automatically copyrighted by me, but if i upload it, and use it without permission, action could be taken about me**

[Loriel]

If you upload something onto Graal servers, you transfer the copyright to Graal.
I suppose that if you hold the copyright on something, others may not upload it without your permission.

[Thought]

Originally posted by Hevaricubed
I dont know why people have a sudden urge to change how the RC looks, in the new graal version RCs will be scripted, so they can look like anything you want x.x

This is a new RC. It is fugly. Simple.

Originally posted by Hevaricubed
**shadowless im pretty sure that anything make then upload onto a GO server is still copyrighted to the original artist, if you upload something to my ftp, it isnt automatically copyrighted by me, but if i upload it, and use it without permission, action could be taken about me**

Read the agreement when you registered your account -- it states that all content uploaded to Graal Online's servers becomes their property. Which is why uploading copyrighted material is forbidden.

[haunter]

Originally posted by Thought



Read the agreement when you registered your account -- it states that all content uploaded to Graal Online's servers becomes their property. Which is why uploading copyrighted material is forbidden.

So it's illegal to upload work that's not yours, or work that you dont have permission to upload because it's basicly like you're giving away something to Graal that's not yours. @_@; hmm

[Alexander]

Originally posted by Hevaricubed
Alexander used PE Editor or something like it which opens DFMs to edit the images of his RC.

Don't assume what program I used. I used Hex Workshop for your information -.-

[Hevaricubed]

Heh really? So you know the exact compression level of the jpeg used for the background? And the colour palletes for the BMP files used? Because you would have to get everything right otherwise it stops working lol.

[Alexander]

Yes I do
<3 Photoshop

[marcoR]

Alexander, AIM me, or lose your er.. place.

[-Ramirez-]

I wish I had known these programs existed... haha

I actually downloaded the Borland Delphi compiler just to put the images in hex format.

[Duwul]

Originally posted by Hevaricubed
Use a program like PE Editor

Or any other resource program that can handle DFM's (Delphi Forms).

The main background image is a JPEG.
The buttons are BMPs.

Alexander used PE Editor or something like it which opens DFMs to edit the images of his RC.

The rich edit which holds the chat of the other RC's is not in the resource, so its probally created dynamically
(with CreateWindowEx or an OCX)

You can change the font because it uses the ParentFont, which is the TREMOTEFRAME Font.

I dont know why people have a sudden urge to change how the RC looks, in the new graal version RCs will be scripted, so they can look like anything you want x.x

**shadowless im pretty sure that anything make then upload onto a GO server is still copyrighted to the original artist, if you upload something to my ftp, it isnt automatically copyrighted by me, but if i upload it, and use it without permission, action could be taken about me**

Hey thanks a lot

[KuJiGX]

Isn't this illegal to be editing Stefan's program. Go ban them all :-D

[KuJiGX]

Sorry for double posting but i was trying the resource editor and heres what i got:
VALUE "LegalCopyright", "Graal is copyrighted by Linux Cyberjoueurs"

so Graal is copyrighted

[marcoR]

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.0.0
Copyright ©2000, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
Copyright (C) 1998-2002 Linux cyberjoueurs All Rights Reserved.

[superb]

Originally posted by KuJiGX
Sorry for double posting but i was trying the resource editor and heres what i got:
VALUE "LegalCopyright", "Graal is copyrighted by Linux Cyberjoueurs"

so Graal is copyrighted

EDIT BUTTON

[Toxin]

Isn't it ok for personal use, but not to be distributed without permission? =o (As if people wont distribute it..., but w/e)

BTW, if it's for personal use, nobody needs to know you did it anyway .