Zodiac - Save or Shut Down?

[Xenoith]

@ Ceasar/Kiri whoever you are, you have a world time record of changing your persona over this game. If anything you've been here just as long and have spewed the same nonsense as I have. You just hop accounts every so often and throw on a new face and pretend to be someone else until someone figures it out all over again. You've been a constant fire starter, running your gob off to me when you got the chance or belittling people, calling them idiots, taking screenshots of yourself killing someone and insulting them. Who are you to be an honest judge of character, when you yourself aren't all that great. You chalk yourself up to be this wonderful saint who has done no wrong. Honestly you have the worst track record probably of anyone in Drawde for being a consistent annoyance.

And yeah I left Zodiac more than once, because I needed a break and wanted to see improvements. Tiu who I spoke to on the daily basis and is now staff is the only one (besides Megiddo) who are trying, and they can't do much because of the lack of scripting knowledge they have. So any attempt to really fix stuff goes out the window. I don't know if they're trying to learn code for the game or what. To me it just seems like a fruitless effort.

As for me advertising other game's I put them in Off-Topic. I never put any of the game's I played in the main topic of Zodiac Forums. So the argument there is pretty invalid.

Sure what I've done at this point is far from admirable, but it pale's in comparison to the years of bullying that I've received from the community as a whole. I honestly would encourage Unixmad to shut down PC Graal as a whole at this point or knock the rung out that is Zodiac on the ladder that is PC Graal. The community is just bad and people don't need to go through that. They don't need to go online every day to deal with racism, sexism, and overall cyber bullying which you guys tend to just laugh at.

Oh and here's the biggest point they're going to throw in my face, I can see it from a mile away, so let's put it out there. There was a time where I was constantly being harassed by Kero99 and ilovegirlzz aka (Ikki). To the point of where I just got fed up with their garbage, so I went on the forums and made my first ever alternate account by the name of DarkRingMaster and chalked up a scare tactic to get them off my case. It was a pretend lawsuit that someone had been sued over the constant bullying. Raven613 (who is never around to police the forums in over probably a year.) decided he would play Sherlock Holmes and ran an IP Trace on both accounts and figured out what I was doing. Was it highly uncalled for? Probably. But no worse than being called a tranny in game over the course of a week, being told that my child has maggots in their diaper by Kero99. That was my breaking point with the both of them and the community. You don't say stuff like that to someone, you don't. No matter how badly you dislike someone you don't attack someone who can't honestly defend themselves.

You guys do this all the time and it's just sickening and you wonder why I am jaded, why I hate our community when you guys decide to bring up someone's kid as a means of insult to your otherwise consistent barrage of slurs, and verbal attack, then you've gone too far.

Would it be appropriate to press charges? Probably. Would it be worth it? Probably not. You'd at most get a slap on the wrist and be told not to do it again if anything, nothing would happen. Local police forces aren't going to put their time and resources into stopping online bullying, the closest thing to them that is a serious threat is swatting. For those who don't know what swatting is, it happens a lot on Twitch. That is the falsifying of an actual crime (i.e Murder, Rape, Violence) against a person, and then Police who have to take the call rush in with gun's blazing (since it's handled as a real threat) end up breaking into someone's home for no reason based on false information.

Like I don't think any of you actually think before you type out the insults on your screen to someone. I liked Graal (liked being past tense) it was such a quaint little game that everyone knew about back in the 2000's. You'd get online and would be able to talk to people and relate to them, because we all were around the same age group. We would talk about school, taking test, what our plans were for summer vacation. It was fun. The very first server I joined when I got on Graal was Unholy Nation. I am a very social person, I like talking to people. It's fun for me. I am also very verbose and my choice of words is very articulate. So I come off as condescending to some people because they don't understand that I probably had a different upbringing/education.

What our community's problem is, they don't understand that there is someone else on the other side of the screen in who they insult. There is a living/breathing person. We all have emotions, some can control them better than others. I wear my heart on my sleeve and I'm very impulsive/reckless at times. I've made bad decisions in my life and I've regretted them. People hide behind the anonymity and think they can do whatever, which is why our community isn't where it should be, granted this stands with any gaming community, there will always be bad with the good. But Graal in my opinion should've had a better one since people were so close knit.

[Kiri]

i'm not reading that wall of text, please avoid spreading the negativity on this peaceful forum.

you claimed movado was innocent and drawde witch hunted him out of malice, you knew nothing about the situation but decided to bark nonsense, he is no threat to drawde. he did speed hack, there were numerous evidence and the whole graal police team has been monitoring him for a week, in the end it was jerret's call to ban him.

if you want a certain hacker or bug abuser banned, why haven't you put in the effort to report them with clear evidence through discord? it's easier to leave a message through discord instead of using the graal pm system.

i don't understand why you hate discord, it's just a chat program to connect with people that are both on/off graal. it's year 2017 the pc server staff shouldn't be obligated to stay on graal 24/7 to deal with hackers and bug abusers.

[Xenoith]

Originally Posted by Kiri

i'm not reading that wall of text, please avoid spreading the negativity on this peaceful forum.

you claimed movado was innocent and drawde witch hunted him out of malice, you knew nothing about the situation but decided to bark nonsense, he is no threat to drawde. he did speed hack, there were numerous evidence and the whole graal police team has been monitoring him for a week, in the end it was jerret's call to ban him.

if you want a certain hacker or bug abuser banned, why haven't you put in the effort to report them with clear evidence through discord? it's easier to leave a message through discord instead of using the graal pm system.

i don't understand why you hate discord, it's just a chat program to connect with people that are both on/off graal. it's year 2017 the pc server staff shouldn't be obligated to stay on graal 24/7 to deal with hackers and bug abusers.

Now here's the pot calling the kettle black. You're trying to act innocent and nice, because you have to. The crap you pull on the main Zodiac forums won't be tolerated here, so nice try. Movado has been bugged by Drawde since he returned to Zodiac. From what "I" was told by other parties. Mushi had taken a video of him and turned it in. He was being monitored, of course. Movado has a track record, that's a given, he got banned once for hacking and cleaned up his act. When Mushi/Ashfang and the rest of them showed up on Graal they targeted him and claimed he was hacking.

Movado can PvP and is very smart, I understand where he comes from on an intellectual standpoint, something you probably don't understand due to your lack of education I imagine. He's being accused of hacking, sure he's done it in the past, but he's been a straight arrow since then, why compromise an account he's worked so hard to preserve and keep off that path. Like honestly you weren't around when PokeSMOT was in his prime, don't talk like you actually know him, when you obviously know nothing about him to begin with.

He will admit when he's wrong and not try to act like he's entirely innocent and does no wrong.

As for Discord, I joined the Zodiac Discord. Alen thought it would be funny to give me a role with no permissions on it. So I can't talk to anyone, I'm just there. I'm not going to sit in a Discord channel with people who think it's funny to manipulate permissions of a player that join's it. Hence why I left. Like you guy's don't get it, when you mess with someone, eventually they snap. Do I regret anything I said to Alen or about his brother? No. Will I do it again. Probably. Why? Because my patience with them is gone. Mushi literally attacked me over GFX he uploaded. When you publicly upload a head, it no longer belongs to you. Anyone can use it. To spawn camp someone over a head is ridiculous. He even bullied Rose over it, now mind you when Mushi first attacked me I told him I liked his work and thought it would be cool to use it. He attacked me for two reasons. 1. Spitefulness. Because I used his head. 2. His dislike for me through AshFang. AshFang think's it's funny to lame people when they get low on health, but god forbid someone does it to him, he'll call Drawde to wipe them off the face of the game. My dislike for Ash comes from him interfering in my fights and then talking down to me, that's why I said what I said and I don't regret it at all. I stand by my notion, that he will never say those things to someone in real life because the consequences would be dire and his baby brother wouldn't be able to come to his rescue like he does in game.

You guy's have no sense of regret and you don't take responsibility for your actions, you always look for someone to take the fall and find reason to turn people like myself and Movado into scapegoats for your actions and quite frankly, we've had enough. Hell Hans12 doesn't play any more for practically the same reason, people kept calling him a USDer, saying he was privileged and that people handed him things. He got sick of people asking him for gear or borrowing gear and not giving it back to him. People have a limit and the Zodiac community loves to push people past them then claim innocence when said person finally snaps.

Hell you guys bully RosesLove and Meeka, two of the sweetest girls on that game. Constantly killing them when the chance arises. It's why they sit on low level toons, because they don't like dealing with people's crap. The amount of toxicity that boils over is ridiculous. The reason? Unbalanced open world PvP.

[Tru_Entropy]

you seriously think that pking is somehow equal to bullying

its a pvp-based server for petes sake, and the balance we currently have now is a lot better than it has been in the past

[Kiri]

think about the crap you pull off on the forums before pointing fingers at me just for being in drawde.

you should be grateful that i didn't start chasing you when you kept laming movado or any other people i was fighting, i get you held a grudge with my targets coincidentally but i prefer you not interrupt a fair fight.

i don't know what you are trying to accomplish from your post, it only proves the fact that you know nothing about movado.

movado DID NOT COME CLEAN after the ban from pokesmot, he still hacked from occasionally on his alternative account gladiatormagnus when he needed it the most. YOU DID NOT SEE MOVADO HACK WITH YOUR OWN EYES!

you weren't there nor were the third party players that you heard the story from, they were blindly complaining about movado's ban and successfully got jerret to unban him "for now"

I am enraged that those pesky beggars lead hans to quit, i would have done the same if people came up to me only to ask for my items constantly.

It was quite unnecessary for the community to call him out just because people handed him gears, that is actually toxic and it's none of their business!

[Tru_Entropy]

Poke and GM play gladiator differently, GM is Hailey3's alt. The fact that you guys even thought that Poke was hacking again is beyond me. There are a myriad of different reasons why his speed was altered.

[Xenoith]

Originally Posted by Tru_Entropy

you seriously think that pking is somehow equal to bullying

its a pvp-based server for petes sake, and the balance we currently have now is a lot better than it has been in the past

I'm done responding to Kiri because they're acting like Ikki at this point. They're choosing what they want to read.

And yes it is, when you spawn camp OSL and kill the same person over and over and over again. It get's frustrating. I'm sure you've been hunted by players. You could be talking with someone and the same person bothers you again and again and again. You can't tell me it's not annoying. It's even worse when they out-gear you.

What reason do I have honestly to go back to Zodiac? What reason? The game literally ripped assets from Black Desert Online via the Worker System, which by the way has sent the economy into the dumpster. It's a literal trash house system that ruined the game and gives players free gold after Payout was disabled.

As I said before, the game itself is fun and has potential, but the developers behind it who have been hired, they need to go. They're running the game into the ground. At this point everyone has Stockholm syndrome, you're just glad you're getting updates, no matter how bad they are when the game could do so much better.