Lag & FPS issue?

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

This is bunch of crap. Unless your computer is ridiculously underpowered, the decrease in network latency you think you're witnessing by closing a few explorer windows is just an example of the placebo effect.

Not all kids have nerd super machines like yours, Chris. It doesn't decrease it by much, but it does decrease it slightly.

The other steps are the main ones to focus though to cut out the fps.

Only sharing what helped/helps me. Thanks on your insight though.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Not all kids have nerd super machines like yours,

That's all good and well, but Graal isn't exactly TERA or WoW in terms of CPU usage.

A computer stock from 2005 could run Graal flawlessly.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

That's all good and well, but Graal isn't exactly TERA or WoW in terms of CPU usage.

A computer stock from 2005 could run Graal flawlessly.

Which in most cases it doesn't though. I am running graal on an alienware laptop on a 100mb connection and somehow still struggles without taking those steps.

Anyhoo, i wasn't mainly focused on the lag, it only helped one guy out. So i'm not exactly sure on that end, but i know the other steps makes you A LOT smoother.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Not all kids have nerd super machines like yours, Chris.

Network latency has very little to do with your computer. A "100mb" connection does not mean anything either; bandwidth != latency.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Network latency has very little to do with your computer. A "100mb" connection does not mean anything either; bandwidth != latency.

I don't even know why we are having these debates. I posted what helped me, I'm not going to go into detail about what's right and what's not. You either follow the steps or you don't.

I was simply saying it because, with my current setup with 8mb connection. I was 450ms. When i upgraded to 100mb. It dropped to 140 then with server changed, it's not 200. So obviously having more mb it helped something.

Also, by closing the programs/explorer does help run graal better. Well in my case it does. If I'm playing with explorer etc open, it's terrible. When i close everything and do those steps, i'm 100% fine. Better than i ever have been.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

I don't even know why we are having these debates. I posted what helped me, I'm not going to go into detail about what's right and what's not. You either follow the steps or you don't.

What BlueMelon said, it's fine to post what helps, but try to understand that he's trying to make the information properly explained.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

I was simply saying it because, with my current setup with 8mb connection. I was 450ms. When i upgraded to 100mb. It dropped to 140 then with server changed, it's not 200. So obviously having more mb it helped something.

-Redacted, Chris explains why this makes a bit more sense-

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Also, by closing the programs/explorer does help run graal better. Well in my case it does. If I'm playing with explorer etc open, it's terrible. When i close everything and do those steps, i'm 100% fine. Better than i ever have been.

Yes, closing everything that isn't Graal can help in FPS a little.
I play Graal windowed, even with mozilla firefox and many files open, just fine and no FPS drop and my computer is pretty good, but not super.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Yeah, your connection wasn't strong enough to download from the location as quickly with 8mb from the server's location. But even so much will get you so far due to the bandwidth like Chris said. (Basically imagine trying to drink from a cup with nothing but ice and little water or soda inside with a straw)

It has nothing to do with downloading. Games like Graal use almost no bandwidth except during the rare instances where you're downloading game assets. It's easily possible to experience lower latency with a "slower" connection. More likely by upgrading his plan, the ISP moved him onto a different infrastructure which either had better peerings (unlikely to be a major contributor and unlikely in general) or a better "last mile" run (more likely).

[Breezed]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Which in most cases it doesn't though. I am running graal on an alienware laptop on a 100mb connection and somehow still struggles without taking those steps.

Anyhoo, i wasn't mainly focused on the lag, it only helped one guy out. So i'm not exactly sure on that end, but i know the other steps makes you A LOT smoother.

here's your problem: laptop

they are specifically prone to dust buildup and overheating (especially since you have an alienware using what is probably an i7 and a nvidia GTX)-- you might want to open it up and clean it out. Laptops aren't built to last, they're built as disposable machines so the customer buys another one after 2-3 years.

if you really like PC gaming, I really reccomend building a rig with your own parts-- you could probably replicate a computer with the same CPU/GPU as your laptop for half the price, and it'll last for ages with proper ventilation.

anyways, what really bugs me about graal is the fact that it is capped at about 21 fps on the PC (no matter how good your pc is), yet the iphone/android version runs at 30fps solid.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Breezed

here's your problem: laptop

they are specifically prone to dust buildup and overheating (especially since you have an alienware using what is probably an i7 and a nvidia GTX)-- you might want to open it up and clean it out. Laptops aren't built to last, they're built as disposable machines so the customer buys another one after 2-3 years.

if you really like PC gaming, I really reccomend building a rig with your own parts-- you could probably replicate a computer with the same CPU/GPU as your laptop for half the price, and it'll last for ages with proper ventilation.

anyways, what really bugs me about graal is the fact that it is capped at about 21 fps on the PC (no matter how good your pc is), yet the iphone/android version runs at 30fps solid.

I just built my own a few days ago (As a side note, I'm never installing Graal on it :P)
**** laptops forever. Never buying one again.
And yeah, I kinda wish Graal had no FPS limit, or at least 30/60 FPS.
Although, It doesn't really matter that much. With the amount of frames that goes into most ganis, it wouldn't make the game look any smoother.

But you know... nothing this game offers compares to playing all of the other games I could be playing on Ultra settings at 60 FPS+ :P

[WillaWonka]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

I just built my own a few days ago (As a side note, I'm never installing Graal on it :P)
**** laptops forever. Never buying one again.
And yeah, I kinda wish Graal had no FPS limit, or at least 30/60 FPS.
Although, It doesn't really matter that much. With the amount of frames that goes into most ganis, it wouldn't make the game look any smoother.

But you know... nothing this game offers compares to playing all of the other games I could be playing on Ultra settings at 60 FPS+ :P

If they happened to remove the fps limiter on this game, they would then have to redo AGAIN all the gun stats to match the average fps. On a downside, it would mean some people with crappy computers will get low fps, so their gameplay will be much slower and sluggish then others, while on the upside, there could be a much large variety of stats to choose from, instead of going by .05, .1, .15, .2, etc..

Now to talk about myself and my computer, I'll be putting in a i5 w/ new mobo today, so my computer will be i5 3570k CPU + Radeon HD7970 3GB DDR5 + 8GB Ram, abouta get some hardcore fps on some hardcore games...

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Breezed

here's your problem: laptop

they are specifically prone to dust buildup and overheating (especially since you have an alienware using what is probably an i7 and a nvidia GTX)-- you might want to open it up and clean it out. Laptops aren't built to last, they're built as disposable machines so the customer buys another one after 2-3 years.

if you really like PC gaming, I really reccomend building a rig with your own parts-- you could probably replicate a computer with the same CPU/GPU as your laptop for half the price, and it'll last for ages with proper ventilation.

anyways, what really bugs me about graal is the fact that it is capped at about 21 fps on the PC (no matter how good your pc is), yet the iphone/android version runs at 30fps solid.

My problem isn't my laptop. My laptop is only 2 months old. I have a top end PC aswell custom built. You aren't getting what im saying though.

I can play graal without those steps. However, with those steps in place, i have no fps lag whatsoever. I am smooth, permanently.

I haven't came across anyone, who runs smooth permanently without those steps. If you do, prove it. Let's run across the gmap beside eachother and see if you can keep up.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Breezed

what really bugs me about graal is the fact that it is capped at about 21 fps on the PC (no matter how good your pc is), yet the iphone/android version runs at 30fps solid.

nope, Graal is capped at 20 fps on all clients.