Gun Admin fail? (iPhone)

[Venom_Fish]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Most post on Graalians.com. I believe Cloyd can balance a gun.


I would like to know how you would balance the guns out- what would you do with the following guns:

• BAR
• M4
• Famas
• Shipka

Hm, not sure of the weapon structure on iPhone.
However, I watched quite a few spars on the server and the distinction between the supposedly, "newly" released guns is pretty clear.
But then again, I toyed with the, what I would call, "Tier 1" weapons and there are clear distinctions (yet again). - As Masa pointed out.

In short, the ideal case would be fixing the problem at the source first (Tier 1 weapons), then work your way up. However, in this context, a rebalance of that caliber could cause more harm than good. iEra is different from Era, in that it has a MUCH larger active playercount.
Simpler terms, more people affected, more people angry.

Yet, one key thing remains unexplored, how many guns does iEra have?
[Thought of this while writing]

Premature response, but:
Best bet on this one is to alter those newly-released weapons if they're that problematic. I'm sure there's several ways to perhaps place them in "check" without massively affecting whatever balance Cloyd has developed.
Seeing as they are not at the bottom or source of the structure, the effect should be similar to taking icing off a cake; superficial - for lack of a better word.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

Seeing as they are not at the bottom or source of the structure, the effect should be similar to taking icing off a cake; superficial - for lack of a better word.

But the icing is the best part...

[WillaWonka]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

But the icing is the best part...

Especially vanilla icing..

Screw era, lets talk about pastries.

[Venom_Fish]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

But the icing is the best part...

Egh, more accurately, taking the cherry from on top.
Nothing will move but the cherry. -_-

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

Egh, more accurately, taking the cherry from on top.
Nothing will move but the cherry. -_-

Had there been a cherry in the original description that would've been the best part.
Icing remaining a close second.

Originally Posted by WillaWonka

Screw era, lets talk about pastries.

Lol, fat.

[MiniOne]

Okay you know a guns op when you can't even walk into a base without dying, no lie your trying to walk down the stairs and you get half way and your dead? Mhmmm the BAR doesn't just ruin spar but basing as well, if you have two BARs just shot down the stairs at BH and no one can get in, by the time they shot one bullet they've already been killed.

[xAndrewx]

use grenades

[Herb_P2P]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

Okay you know a guns op when you can't even walk into a base without dying, no lie your trying to walk down the stairs and you get half way and your dead? Mhmmm the BAR doesn't just ruin spar but basing as well, if you have two BARs just shot down the stairs at BH and no one can get in, by the time they shot one bullet they've already been killed.

stop complaining and follow on what you said.... ---v

Originally Posted by MiniOne

anyway I quit... all fun from spar has been ruined D:

[WillaWonka]

They must've dedicated some form of time or USD to enjoy those enhancements, i suggest you do the same. If you can't beat the crowd, be the crowd.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

Okay you know a guns op when you can't even walk into a base without dying, no lie your trying to walk down the stairs and you get half way and your dead? Mhmmm the BAR doesn't just ruin spar but basing as well, if you have two BARs just shot down the stairs at BH and no one can get in, by the time they shot one bullet they've already been killed.

Isn't that the point? You shouldn't be able to just walk into a base willy nilly.. its supposed to be defended. Aren't there multiple entrances and decent strategies you can employ to evade the lame?

Originally Posted by WillaWonka

They must've dedicated some form of time or USD to enjoy those enhancements, i suggest you do the same. If you can't beat the crowd, be the crowd.

Yeah I'm surprised no one else (even me) thought that. It's not like they can only be bought with USD, and they're not limited to a specific group of players.

Hopefully Cloyd realized he's reached a peak of his gun stats and fills in the middle floors before continuing to build up. Otherwise it might collapse.
Lol metaphor

[Venom_Fish]

Or perhaps I'll contact him and see what's up.

[bloodykiller]

guys just hire wil so he can nerf all ur guns and make the game slower!!!!!!!

[MiniOne]

Theres like one entrance to every base and these guns make it so you can't even walk into the base, like literally you walk halfway through the doors and your dead.

And yea lets blow $100 to join the crowd or spend well over 200hrs digging shells/picking trash. Genius

LOL at the iEra staff telling me to quit that's exactly what you want in your Player Relations Admin, instead of suggesting ways to help players he tells them to quit <--- perfection

Grenades don't outrange guns sadly so you can't counter that with grenades

[Scoper]

Why hasn't anyone closed this? The discussion part is obviously done, and now it's mostly you kids bashing mini, and him retaliating.

[Venom_Fish]

Originally Posted by Scoper

Why hasn't anyone closed this? The discussion part is obviously done, and now it's mostly you kids bashing mini, and him retaliating.

Quit acting foolish all the time, it's becoming quite unsightly.
No one closes a thread, (other than snk), unless it's bashing them or their administration.
Either that, or it's the direction it's going in.

Watch this be a catalyst for that effect.

[punkrules]

This should explain all the confusion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe1n2...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GANse5eziM

[WillaWonka]

Stop recording these fights with a potato.. not as enjoyable.

[Scoper]

@punkrules

I feel like the worst part would not be the crying, or the getting thrown down stairs, but the fact that you're losing to people with names like Jermaine and Erv.


Has IEra considered using stairs for combative purposes? Should be looked into

Also, Mini..why don't you encourage other IEra people to make forum accounts here and back you up? That might give you some more credibility

[WillaWonka]

Somebody make a "Throw Wil Sawl down the stairs" gani for era.

[RogueShatterblade]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

Quit acting foolish all the time, it's becoming quite unsightly.

Quit trying to act smarter than you are - it's always been quite annoying.

[Venom_Fish]

Don't want to ruin the masturbation - so I'll edit the video(s) and place a photo of me on top the head for some much needed realism.

@Ocelot:
Quit it, it's sickening.
If what you're claiming is right,
It's like an elephant calling a gorilla, "Big Foot". - Just plain stupid.
Hush, I think you have a "become staff" endeavor to look after.

[Gambet1337]

no need to fear gambet is here!!!!

[WillaWonka]

Don't you mean a gorilla calling an elephant "Big Foot"? Because I think that the animal that closely relates to "Big Foot" is a gorilla.

[Venom_Fish]

Egh, what'd I tell you about stupidity? Its unsightly.
In the eyes of an idiot, a superficial term would make more sense than a literal one.
In this respect, what I used is given more weight since its most related to our scenario.

In short,
Who truely has a bigger foot, the elephant or the gorilla?

Yet, who'd be called (considered) the "Big Foot" by the other due to society (given the right circumstances)?

For Christ sake I hope you get the right answers. Good luck.

[dude2020]

Just as stupid as your raps.

[WillaWonka]

Oh yeah, elephants can't talk either.

LOL EZ

[Venom_Fish]

Originally Posted by WillaWonka

Oh yeah, elephants can't talk either.

LOL EZ

What? Oh god, you're an idiot.

And, I'll just ignore (not hard) the other God.
Not like I have to stress how insignificant he is, I don't even know who he is.

Guess he can be considered a fan, bumpin' my raps and all. #swaggg

[jkldogg]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

my raps

The raps weren't as bad as everyone said they were, honestly.

I actually still remember some lyrics:
"free bandits, we ain't never been some mixed breeds, 30 bullets coming at you in a quick speed"

"newbies with no skill act like skill isn't everything, i'm just having a good time, they just trying to ruin it, shot out to the fact that i'm the best pker doing it"

"something something black sten something something"

Overall, didn't hate the songs.

[bloodykiller]

sup wil, i've heard that now ur banned on era uve become a pro on Atlantis, 1 of graal's most popular servers

[dude2020]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

What? Oh god, you're an idiot.

And, I'll just ignore (not hard) the other God.
Not like I have to stress how insignificant he is, I don't even know who he is.

Guess he can be considered a fan, bumpin' my raps and all. #swaggg

get on era and spar me.... owait #yousuckatrap

[RogueShatterblade]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

@Ocelot:
Quit it, it's sickening.
If what you're claiming is right,
It's like an elephant calling a gorilla, "Big Foot". - Just plain stupid.
Hush, I think you have a "become staff" endeavor to look after.

I could be mental, is anyone coherent to this?

[Venom_Fish]

Y'know, you guys should celebrate with your inner-selves in my absence.
I mean after all, I can't "openly" make you look like **** anymore, unless we're here .

@Tk:
Remember what I told you about speaking in my presence?
Same goes for in my absence. You're not allowed to.
Sorry, you just don't meet the requirements.

@RandomGroupie:
Refer to Tk's response.

@Failure, errr Ocelot:
You're just mental. I thought it was obvious by now - sheesh.

[Supaman771]

Just throwing it out there, but I understand the analogy Wil used, and it's a fairly simple concept.
He even explained it for you, jeez.

[bloodykiller]

stfu, u had to nerf guns cuz u were getting owned too hard lolol

[Venom_Fish]

Egh, you really don't know what's good for you, huh?

Since I do, I'll leave it at this.
Argue with someone in your own league.
If it makes you feel better,
I'll refer you to Amb; someone in that department that atleast "looks" like me.
Now off with you, scurry! Go play pretend-spar Wil Soul; who knows, you might win.

[RogueShatterblade]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

@Failure, errr Ocelot:
You're just mental. I thought it was obvious by now - sheesh.

Furthermore, I believe, in summation, in its entirety, that you're a joke. You can fool everyone here, but not me, kiddo. I'm starting to get a
headache, please don't make me concentrate an extended amount of time exposing you for the spineless pseudo-intellectual that you are.

I haven't been on client in over a week. I'm a hopeless vagabond, just like you?

I play BF3. Get at me, darling.

[dude2020]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

Remember what I told you about speaking in my presence?
Same goes for in my absence. You're not allowed to.
Sorry, you just don't meet the requirements.

Just so you know, you do suck.
Cause you know all you do
is type like this and think your hard
but you know it's just as dumb as your raps
so come at me bro because you blow.

[Crono]

ocelot & john goin hard

[Venom_Fish]

Originally Posted by RogueShatterblade

Furthermore, I believe, in summation, in its entirety, that you're a joke. You can fool everyone here, but not me, kiddo. I'm starting to get a
headache, please don't make me concentrate an extended amount of time exposing you for the spineless pseudo-intellectual that you are.

I haven't been on client in over a week. I'm a hopeless vagabond, just like you?

I play BF3. Get at me, darling.

Egh, you really are bad this, aren't you?
Here's a helping hand.. idle threats are dead.
Until you, I thought this was a ubiquitous truth.
Should I reconsider?
Or are you just as isolated from reality as we think you are?
Admittingly, I can, at times (virtually), be a vagabond.
So I guess we somewhat share the title.
But hopeless? That's just what you've always been.
Yet, I do hope you happen to find some on BF3, because it doesn't seem like you left the real battlefield with any. Sorry for that. <3.

@RandomGroupie:
You've received your allowance of attention for the week.
Quit trying to sneak some more you little pest.

[Tim_Rocks]

I'm also intellectual.