Era HP Upgrades

[Crono]

i mean the overall system makes the strong even stronger with noobs standing even less of a chance as it becomes harder and harder to kill those with high HP.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Crono

i mean the overall system makes the strong even stronger with noobs standing even less of a chance as it becomes harder and harder to kill those with high HP.

It's the exact same difference that has always existed on Era though; 100hp vs 140hp.
And that difference is only 2 hits with the strongest gun, 3 hits with the weakest.
A far cry different from UN where it takes a noob 26 hits to kill somebody who has max health, but only 2 hits for them to kill a noob.
Or Zodiac where it is impossible for a noob to kill anybody even 10 levels above them, and players that are even level 30 can get 1 hit killed.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

It's the exact same difference that has always existed on Era though; 100hp vs 140hp.
And that difference is only 2 hits with the strongest gun, 3 hits with the weakest.
A far cry different from UN where it takes a noob 26 hits to kill somebody who has max health, but only 2 hits for them to kill a noob.
Or Zodiac where it is impossible for a noob to kill anybody even 10 levels above them, and players that are even level 30 can get 1 hit killed.

The difference is that here on Era you now need to rely on killing other players to gain HP. The good players will stomp everyone else first and reach higher levels of HP while the baddies and not so good players are stuck trailing behind. This system initially gives the strong a bigger gap. The quests on Era gave some even ground (NPCs), it's not the same thing as this.

On UN and Zodiac your hp/power doesn't rely on killing other players, but NPCs.

[FantasyX]

What stops people from farming kills from trial accounts?

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

What stops people from farming kills from trial accounts?

Thats what i said

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

What stops people from farming kills from trial accounts?

There are some protections that don't allow this and most problems like this. I won't elaborate.

[TheJames]

Originally Posted by FantasyX

What stops people from farming kills from trial accounts?

Chris randomly jailing you when you think you can get away with it lol

First hand witness

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Crono

The difference is that here on Era you now need to rely on killing other players to gain HP. The good players will stomp everyone else first and reach higher levels of HP while the baddies and not so good players are stuck trailing behind. This system initially gives the strong a bigger gap. The quests on Era gave some even ground (NPCs), it's not the same thing as this.

On UN and Zodiac your hp/power doesn't rely on killing other players, but NPCs.

That is a fair point but tbh it depends on how effective the other systems are.
If the gang system works properly then ideally most people who get close to the 140 hp cap will be taken into gangs and spend most of their time fighting other gangs whose members will also be closer to the 140 hp cap.
Leaving players with lower hp to fight other lower hp players instead of getting stomped by the older players, who arguably would stomp them anyway regardless of hp.

In the end it's still only two hits, and soon you'll be able to buy a gralat potion to circumvent that anyway.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

It's the exact same difference that has always existed on Era though; 100hp vs 140hp.
And that difference is only 2 hits with the strongest gun, 3 hits with the weakest.
A far cry different from UN where it takes a noob 26 hits to kill somebody who has max health, but only 2 hits for them to kill a noob.
Or Zodiac where it is impossible for a noob to kill anybody even 10 levels above them, and players that are even level 30 can get 1 hit killed.

On classic servers like UN, the person getting a lot of kills will most likely have low AP, making them easier to kill.

[fowlplay4]

Hidden incentive to buy the +10 HP Upgrade, i c what u did there cbk.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Hidden incentive to buy the +10 HP Upgrade, i c what u did there cbk.

I've been planning it since before then, not like I get paid for working on Era or selling gelat potions

[LordSquirt]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

I've been planning it since before then, not like I get paid for working on Era or selling gelat potions

or do you???!?!?!??

[cheesemanfred]

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

or do you???!?!?!??

HE DOES! and so do I. But that's beside the point, I guess I like this idea? I dunno. It's a huge change from it being REALLY easy to have 140hp to where it will now take months to get there for most players.

[salesman]

I heard that the first person to reach 140HP gets a free MP5

[cheesemanfred]

Originally Posted by salesman

I heard that the first person to reach 140HP gets a free MP5

I heard that as soon as someone gets to 139HP the server resets.