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Old 03-22-2010, 05:02 AM
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Boots are fine if you have a dev server I guess. I can't see any real reason a staff member would need boots on a live server though.
Walls are a ***** to navigate around regardless of server status.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:12 AM
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Walls are a ***** to navigate around regardless of server status.
Why do you need to navigate through walls with boots on a live server though, and, why boots over some other sort of (possibly less offensive) wNPC? I'm just having trouble thinking of any practical, logical purpose.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the novelty of staff boots. ;P
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:17 AM
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Why do you need to navigate through walls with boots on a live server though, and, why boots over some other sort of (possibly less offensive) wNPC? I'm just having trouble thinking of any practical, logical purpose.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the novelty of staff boots. ;P
What exactly is offensive? Boots are not offensive... staff using them have the potential to be, though. In that case, deal with the staff, not the tools. There are, of course, lines to draw with staff tools... but staff boots are way down on the list. Also, you can take steps to prevent abusive use of things like boots. Disabling the sword/weapons while using them, for example.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:39 AM
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What exactly is offensive? Boots are not offensive... staff using them have the potential to be, though. In that case, deal with the staff, not the tools. There are, of course, lines to draw with staff tools... but staff boots are way down on the list. Also, you can take steps to prevent abusive use of things like boots. Disabling the sword/weapons while using them, for example.
I don't disagree, but that still doesn't really answer my question regarding the 'why' factor... what are some practical purposes for having them on a live server (other than selective conveniences)? The fact that an item in this case can be rendered relatively harmless does not necessarily justify its existence and subsequent usage. That's all I'm saying.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:47 AM
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I don't disagree, but that still doesn't really answer my question regarding the 'why' factor... what are some practical purposes for having them on a live server (other than selective conveniences)? The fact that an item in this case can be rendered relatively harmless does not necessarily justify its existence and subsequent usage. That's all I'm saying.
Why are they useful on an UC server and not a live server? ET's, for example, use them for monitoring events. On Classic, CTF's and such spanned multiple levels. It's easier for an ET to stay out of the way(on a tree), and to quickly navigate around to see what's going on. I mean... any instance is useful on a live server just as much as it is an UC server. Live servers get worked on(ya I know it's hard not to laugh at), too.
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Why are they useful on an UC server and not a live server? ET's, for example, use them for monitoring events. On Classic, CTF's and such spanned multiple levels. It's easier for an ET to stay out of the way(on a tree), and to quickly navigate around to see what's going on. I mean... any instance is useful on a live server just as much as it is an UC server. Live servers get worked on(ya I know it's hard not to laugh at), too.
Two things:

- I agree and your particular example is one of the reasons why I personally allow staff boots (though I can still think of other non-boot tools that could be used instead).

- I only distinguish between live/dev solely out of ideology. The reality of course is that it doesn't matter if average players have the ability to access either.



Just wanted to play devil's advocate a bit, in any regard. Thanks for the discussion.
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