Suggestions thread (Formerly: We're listening...)

[hunterhunk]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

There is not an easy way to determine if two guns are equal or not.

You are right, because if Black Holst has a 25 damage gun, Blazian Bandits either want a 25 damage gun or a rigged 20 damage gun.

Here is what I was thinking for gang guns:

Say Black Holst has the Adv. Black Holster

Damage: 25
Fire Rate: .20 (Semi-Auto)
Freeze: .14
Spread: 0
Clip: 8 or 12.

Say Blazian Bandits has a 20 damage rifle

Damage: 20
Fire Rate: .25 (Auto)
Freeze: .08-.10
Spread: .08
Clip: 32

These seem fairly close to even, it really just depends upon player preference. If you change 1 gun (buff or nerf) you should do the same to the other gang weapons.

A lot of times people *****ed about how the BHer or the Colt6 were rigged, but that's because players learned how to use the weapon. Players actually learned the strengths and weaknesses of the weapon.

Another thing, you can't bring back gang guns and give them the same stats. If you're going to bring them back, they need to be different from each other. There would be no point to give a gang the same exact gun as another gang with the only difference being in the image and name.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by kia345

What's stopping you guys from being logical and giving each gang's guns identical stats?

that's a pretty lame way to solve balancing issues. might as well make every gun on the server the same since staff can never find a perfect balance for them, right?

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Frankie

that's a pretty lame way to solve balancing issues. might as well make every gun on the server the same since staff can never find a perfect balance for them, right?

No, people work for their overpowered guns. If the gang guns are free, they should be just as good as the other gang's.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by BigBear3

No, people work for their overpowered guns.

just another reason to not give gangs gang guns. it wouldn't be fair for the people that have to work their ass off to buy good weapons. we shouldn't be giving a select few people on the server an advantage simply for being in a gang.

[Crono]

noob protection or no PK mode

[iRedemption]

Add the gun racks...they'll be fun as hell to use and it's something new. Alot of you guys always worry about what could go wrong, and how unfair/rigged things might be...and maybe you're right but when you think like that NOTHING ever gets done and Era loses it's players.

p.s chris could just trade the gun racks between the two gangs every few weeks nubs.

[Cubical]

One of the biggest problems in my opinion is that a majority of the guns cannot be bought in the stores which is daunting to new players who realize how much it cost to buy them from other players. I'm constantly getting PM asking where to buy guns that are currently unobtainable through shops. I'm not saying all guns should be in shops but a majority of them should be available to the players.

[Dnegel]

Originally Posted by Cubical

One of the biggest problems in my opinion is that a majority of the guns cannot be bought in the stores which is daunting to new players who realize how much it cost to buy them from other players. I'm constantly getting PM asking where to buy guns that are currently unobtainable through shops. I'm not saying all guns should be in shops but a majority of them should be available to the players.

And they shouldn't cost over $100.000.

[Cubical]

Originally Posted by Dnegel

And they shouldn't cost over $100.000.

Yeah, that's why cross server trading and USDing is so prominate. I don't know many people who have the motivation or will power to work for that much money. It's the same way with Kingdoms, many people just do not want to spend hundreds or even thousands of hours to get a decent weapon/gear set.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Cubical

Yeah, that's why cross server trading and USDing is so prominate. I don't know many people who have the motivation or will power to work for that much money. It's the same way with Kingdoms, many people just do not want to spend hundreds or even thousands of hours to get a decent weapon/gear set.

Which brings me to another problem Era shares with GK.. Newbie ignorance. They think, just because it's common, that a flaming sword is not an acceptable sword for use. I PK with one.

On Era, using an uzi is a more than acceptable way to PK as well.

[Cubical]

Originally Posted by BigBear3

Which brings me to another problem Era shares with GK.. Newbie ignorance. They think, just because it's common, that a flaming sword is not an acceptable sword for use. I PK with one.

On Era, using an uzi is a more than acceptable way to PK as well.

I never said it wasn't an acceptable way to PK. Just because something is acceptable doesn't mean it should be one of the few options you have. People like having cool looking guns. GK is one of the worst examples of good gameplay if not the worst example I have ever seen. I think everything should be able to be realistically obtainable with the exception of just a few choice items. Look at zodiac for instance and their player count in comparison to the rest of the servers. You can obtain almost anything in a reasonable amount of time except for just a few items and players like that. If zodiac were to make drop rates insanely low it probably wouldn't draw as many players in because they feel like they would have to just work way to hard to obtain something they want.

You also have to think that Kingdoms entire allure is trading rare items which are obtained from either thousands of hours of strenuous grinding, USD, scamming or cross server trading. The rich stay rich and the poor stay poor which is partially how era currently is. With more items available it would even out the gap between the poor and the rich players as the items would not be worth as much while also keeping players around. Pat, I know you know how much time I have put into GK so I hope you know that this is just not an observation but more of something I have experienced first hand.

[iRedemption]

it was so fun to PK on trials to the point where that's all everybody did for awhile...you got free ammo, cash, and uzi/ak

[KrimsonSky]

Has anything changed [for the good] since 10-17-2009 when this was brought up?

O.o.. seriously, I have no clue what goes on anymore =|

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by KrimsonSky

Has anything changed [for the good] since 10-17-2009 when this was brought up?

O.o.. seriously, I have no clue what goes on anymore =|

There are many. Gang points have been fixed, gun racks implemented, a secondary/primary system is working on debug, PK timers, ...

[KrimsonSky]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

There are many. Gang points have been fixed, gun racks implemented, a secondary/primary system is working on debug, PK timers, ...

Damn, sounds like its going along great :|

Well gratz on the improvement, wish I still played =(

Keep up the good work.