Please Welcome Xor

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Scary_Sock

I really never heard of Xor before, and I doubt more than half of the community has heard of him before. The point of getting INVITED is because that person has helped out other people with Server issues, problems, Etc....

I have known Tig before he became a "Global" and I have known TSA before he became a global and I've known other "Globals" before they actually became "Globals". The point is that Xor hasen't been judged by the community yet to actually give their opinion on Xor being a "Global" member, and the only people that actually have judged Xor are the other Global Administrators.

What I think that should of been done is that someone should of have asked the community is Xor was good enough for this position.

i don't see why you should expect us commoners to have any input into what the staff of graal do. obviously none of us are good enough to be hand selected for the PWA, including both those who applied and didn't apply. so really, what would we know about who makes a good candidate for the PWA? i don't know who xor is, but he must be awesome if the PWA hand selected him over...all of us?

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Hiro

what would we know about who makes a good candidate for the PWA?

Look, if you are still actually playing Graal, you obviously lack the critical-thinking skills required for informed decisions regarding PWA applicants~

[Lyndzey]

Originally Posted by Loriel

Look, if you are still actually playing Graal, you obviously lack the critical-thinking skills required for informed decisions regarding PWA applicants~

Haha...

Applications are not the ideal way to select someone for a global staff position. PWA members need to be fair and respectful to players, a quality that cannot be represented through applications but only through personal interaction. The PWA hiring section probably should have never been added, as it would be much better for a person to be selected by global staff based on how they interact with the community.

Congrats to Xor, and good luck.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Lyndzey

Applications are not the ideal way to select someone for a global staff position. PWA members need to be fair and respectful to players, a quality that cannot be represented through applications but only through personal interaction. The PWA hiring section probably should have never been added, as it would be much better for a person to be selected by global staff based on how they interact with the community.

Congrats to Xor, and good luck.

I very much agree.

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by Lyndzey

Applications are not the ideal way to select someone for a global staff position. PWA members need to be fair and respectful to players, a quality that cannot be represented through applications but only through personal interaction. The PWA hiring section probably should have never been added, as it would be much better for a person to be selected by global staff based on how they interact with the community.

Congrats to Xor, and good luck.

Beat me to a response, but I honestly couldn't have worded it any better.

[Bell]

Originally Posted by Lyndzey

Haha...

Applications are not the ideal way to select someone for a global staff position. PWA members need to be fair and respectful to players, a quality that cannot be represented through applications but only through personal interaction. The PWA hiring section probably should have never been added, as it would be much better for a person to be selected by global staff based on how they interact with the community.

My sentiments exactly. While the applications may provide us with players that we may not of already noticed the fact remains that the primary job of the Playerworld Administration is to provide support to players that have issues regarding things that happen to them on servers that they feel the local staff did not handle correctly. We are the judges of those actions.

The people that stand out are those that are usually at the forefront in handling player problems on servers on a daily basis. We deal with them constantly and the proof is in their actions. No application can show us how they handle graal life situations.

I am highly skeptical at using the judgement of the forum users or server players as a basis for judging a PWA as its well known that usually only those that didn't get the result they wanted during an investigation are the ones that speak the loudest.

My hopes are that once Xor has become more familiar with his new surroundings that the addition of another member will help us to have better coverage of all servers. Right now we're spread pretty thin so its difficult for us to address all the problems that the players would like to see us improve upon. I would like to see the addition of 1 or 2 more actually even though its not needed on support itself.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Bell

stuffz.

Actions speak louder than words?

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Lyndzey

Haha...

Applications are not the ideal way to select someone for a global staff position. PWA members need to be fair and respectful to players, a quality that cannot be represented through applications but only through personal interaction. The PWA hiring section probably should have never been added, as it would be much better for a person to be selected by global staff based on how they interact with the community.

Congrats to Xor, and good luck.

Do real jobs hire you just because they think you're good or require a resume first to know your credentials, and then move on from there?

Clockwork made a good point up there too.

[Lyndzey]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Do real jobs hire you just because they think you're good or require a resume first to know your credentials, and then move on from there?

This isn't the real world. This is an online gaming community where we already know the majority of players, not a country of 300 million people where we have to go off of resumes because we haven't been able to observe the person interacting with others.

I would say that becoming a PWA member is more of getting a promotion from a server staff job, as I believe all global staff members were at one point staff somewhere. This actually does parallel real jobs somewhat, as we are typically promoted based on our interactions with others, not because we sent in an application.

[Robin]

Originally Posted by Lyndzey

This isn't the real world. This is an online gaming community where we already know the majority of players, not a country of 300 million people where we have to go off of resumes because we haven't been able to observe the person interacting with others.

I would say that becoming a PWA member is more of getting a promotion from a server staff job, as I believe all global staff members were at one point staff somewhere. This actually does parallel real jobs somewhat, as we are typically promoted based on our interactions with others, not because we sent in an application.

Unless you're required to apply for your new role in the same way as new applicants to meet with EU Law.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Lyndzey

This isn't the real world. This is an online gaming community where we already know the majority of players, not a country of 300 million people where we have to go off of resumes because we haven't been able to observe the person interacting with others.

I would say that becoming a PWA member is more of getting a promotion from a server staff job, as I believe all global staff members were at one point staff somewhere. This actually does parallel real jobs somewhat, as we are typically promoted based on our interactions with others, not because we sent in an application.

i think you are trying to create a reason for PWA to hire people they like, rather than people who have applied

applications should be used as a way for the PWA to know which people want into the PWA, like in real jobs where you apply to make it known that you want the job. it shouldn't be said that applications are useless or unnecessary, because they aren't. further, once the application is done, only then can you really look at the person (interview) and then make a rational decision based upon the credentials and the impression

just deciding that someone is good enough because you "know them" or "have seen them at work" isn't as great as when someone applies, waits, shows themselves as competent, and then is hired. i could care less if xor is PWA or not - i don't know a single thing about him, nor a single thing about why he was hired, other than he worked on zodiac and was apparently helpful to players. i also know FAQs on UN that help players out - why don't you go and watch them? i mean honestly, how much time did the PWA stay on RC just watching for people's performances? you couldn't have been looking at his posts, as he didn't have any, and unless you were playing graal with him (which no one with critical-thinking skills does apparently) or talking with him through RC, which is to say that members of the PWA took time out of their work on graal specifically to get to know xor so they could potentially hire him...i don't see that being done to anyone else, nor have i heard about that being done to anyone else, which suggests that xor might be friends with members of the PWA, and friend's in high places means you have connections to resources that others don't enjoy. it's still clear that those who applied couldn't hold a candle to what xor had to offer - and he didn't even need to apply

why didn't you guys go talk and get to know clockwork on his server so you could potentially hire him too? at least he took the time to write an application