New Manager

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Pretty sure the PWA did a tally of players voting on who they would like to see as manager, and why they would like to see them as manager.

So how many people voted for DC outside of Uncommon Society?

Even if the PWA did this, why would I need to see their tally to go back and look at the first 20 pages of this thread, as DC suggested?

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Certainly more than 6.

You're right, I was off.

Going back and looking at people who quite clearly endorsed you for being manager, the total is more like 3.

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

You're right, I was off.

Going back and looking at people who quite clearly endorsed you for being manager, the total is more like 3.

Okay bud.

[jacob_bald6225]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

You're right, I was off.

Going back and looking at people who quite clearly endorsed you for being manager, the total is more like 3.

Are you counting mine?

Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225

Sadly I think even DC alone would've been a better choice than this.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

So how many people voted for DC outside of Uncommon Society?

I don't know I didn't vote, nor did I hear any results from the voting. For your information though, the thought of DC becoming manager of Classic has mixed reviews from the people within US.

[Bell]

The reality of it is this, no one situation is or will be perfect. Can't we just let it go for a little while and see if the situation actually changes for the better before passing judgement on a ruling yet to be tested?

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225

Are you counting mine?

that was page 22.

I saw a bunch of posts like that all after the first 20 pages.

It's hilarious that DC would accuse someone else of raging when the past 6 pages have been him blindly insulting everyone involved in making Thor co-manager because he's upset his scheme of the month didn't work.

[DarkCloud_PK]

Aren't you the one that started this whole thread? Only to flip on your position of things when you got your 6-7th ban and finally got your lifetime one?

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

i laura agree with kevin.

and i think DC would fit the job

Originally Posted by PH@NTOM

Two people who are manager, for example DC and Thor, this way they can look over one another's shoulder, I don't know though that's just my input!

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

Is that an ultimatum? Maybe the start of a DC 4 Manager campaign?

You have a good point though. The people have little faith in stormo's ability to get things changed based on his history. Unless he can show otherwise pretty quickly, DC might have just made a sound suggestion.

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Aren't you the one that started this whole thread? Only to flip on your position of things when you got your 6-7th ban and finally got your lifetime one?

oh look, 3 (2 of which aren't even explicit) endorsements for you to manage.

I started this thread and I still believe in what I started it for.

It's not my fault you somehow warped my thread into an ill-fated campaign for manager.

I obviously said I believe Classic needs a new manager, but never once did I say it needed you.

[DarkCloud_PK]

I don't know if you've noticed, but I've been largely ignoring what you've been saying since you can't seem to spout retarded statements like how my whole 2 posts against the PWA about not arguing with players about the outcome, since it makes things worse, turns into me raging for 6 pages on them.

Good exaggeration there.

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This message is hidden because Mark Sir Link is on your ignore list.
Nice.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

I don't know if you've noticed, but I've been largely ignoring what you've been saying since you can't seem to spout retarded statements like how my whole 2 posts against the PWA about not arguing with players about the outcome, since it makes things worse, turns into me raging for 6 pages on them.

Good exaggeration there.

Too bad this post doesn't even make sense.

Blind rage

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

I obviously said I believe Classic needs a new manager, but never once did I say it needed you.

Who then?

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Who then?

I would honestly say with Kat back, he'd be the best choice.

And I haven't talked to him or seen his work in 4 years.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

oh look, 3 (2 of which aren't even explicit) endorsements for you to manage.

Don't forget my very specific opposition to it.

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

I would honestly say with Kat back, he'd be the best choice.

I have zero interest in such a position.

Most people don't know/realize this, but the core logic of the server from a scripting standpoint is COMPLETELY flawed. You literally cannot make any change without affecting a ridiculous amount of other things that've all been done the way whoever was doing them saw fit, rather than trying to have any sort of global structure and follow it. The fact that the HP problem described in another thread still exists and can't even be easily tracked down by myself or anyone else is a perfect example of this.

That sort of seems like a tangent, but it's just one of the reasons I personally wouldn't want anything to do with being responsible for the entire server. I can't even stand to go on there NOW with no official staff position.

In my opinion, the issue I described above is the TRUE cause of delays and issues on the server. It certainly has prevented me from having any interest in doing much of anything. I'm pretty sure that any of the actual scripters would agree. They just tolerate it. The problem gets worse with new additions being done in the same fashion: doing whatever is necessary to make it work without any real structure. This isn't necessarily their fault (although I wouldn't be at all surprised if at least some of them do things this way regardless) at this point, as you simply don't have a choice.

Real progress, despite it not being visible to the players, would be an INTELLIGENT reworking of the "core" with actual thought put into it that other people and scripts will be using the code. Not some huge amalgamation of random chunks of code that just "work" and were conceived of in a box where only the person who made them and only their scripts exist.

[MysticX2X]

If this many people are unsatisfied with the PWA decision, what gives you guys the motive to defend your decision? The players asked for a review of management. Not a review to add another manager. The review should of been declared over because Storm is active right about now. Not sure what the future case may be with 2 managers.

I'm not sure how two people with full control over the server is going to work out. But I'm going to want to see so PWA can feel stupid about themselves, when the downplay comes out that we all are anticipating. PWA are looking stupid right now trying to defend themselves when a majority of the players are unsatisfied with the decision.

I have no problem with Storm or Thor, but 2 managers shouldn't be the case, on any server. Reasons already stated.