Top Priorities For Classic

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

It suits serverside HD because it was made when serverside HD was the current HD. That's what it was tested with, designed with, and played and honed with. Changing the dynamics of HD naturally changes the dynamics of something made with serverside HD.

I will agreeably admit CTF sumo might be the only map screwed over by Clientside HD.

Who are you honestly going to please enough to bring back regularly? A few people? That isn't balanced with the amount of effort it takes to make a HD AND implement it properly into classic. HD's arent new content, I'd rather see our development resources go towards not remaking something for the nth time. Then everyone might stop whining about how theres nothing to do.

People from all over Graal? N-pulsians? Unholy Nation sparrers? Return of some Classicians who didn't want to play on a *** HD? You want to know why most sparrers go to Unholy Nation? Because they easily have the best spar system with the good ol' Default HD. Bringing a HD similar to default would return the competitive essence to this server since i particularly haven't seen any in a great amount of time, and attract people from all over. A majority of everything depends on the HD. Most people don't even come to Classic because of the terrible HD we have now, and I mean serverside.

What CTF were you playing? The CTF everyone else is playing has missed hits all over the place. In a game that counts on people getting hit often, thats not a good mix.

Large, Indoor1, indoor 2, future. Haven't particularly experienced Small with Clientside for long but it was good. I will only grant that CTF Sumo is the map that was affected most by the Clientside HD. Other than that, any other map seems normal to me. I have to time myself right, but if i can at least be hit fairly, then it's good enough for me to get accustomed to. You don't even play events so you don't know how unfair it seems to get to not even touch a european player without losing half of your hp first regardless of skill. It's not my fault people didn't want to get accustomed to a new HD hence it's 2 month oldness.

It isn't a matter of S bashing and accuracy. In a perfect world with everyone having the same lag, everyone would see the same thing happening on their screen, and noone would complain. This isn't the case, people lag, some more than others, which causes what you see and what another sees to be out of sync. It isn't a matter of accuracy, it's a matter of sync. If everyone was sync'd, you could have ANY HD work well, clientside, serverside or whatever in between, because everyone would be in agreeance with what they see happening.

You're right, we all have different pings. I can't help myself getting hit so easily because I have the best internet service i can get in the area and I'm not upgrading to t1 just to have fun on Classic. Clientside was more in favor of laggers. Laggers are stoppable. UN has put up with them. Classic can't? On serverside, I lag to the europeans. Can i prevent myself from being hit from so far away because the server thinks im 3 tiles back from what i see on my screen? Not the likely case.

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

People from all over Graal? N-pulsians? Unholy
Nation sparrers? Return of some Classicians who didn't want to play on a *** HD? You want to know why most sparrers go to Unholy Nation? Because they easily have the best spar system with the good ol' Default HD. Bringing a HD similar to default would return the competitive essence to this server since i particularly haven't seen any in a great amount of time, and attract people from all over. A majority of everything depends on the HD. Most people don't even come to Classic because of the terrible HD we have now, and I mean serverside.

They left because they never wanted to adjust. They're not going to come back because Classic after 4 years has something that UN has already and not a whole lot else. If we had default HD like UN, people would still play UN. HD complaints were relevant in the past, but now its just an excuse to not play classic because it isn't as fun. They didn't come back for clientside HD, they aren't going to come back for a slightly better default HD, don't kid yourself. Until Classic has something to offer OVER other servers, we're not going to see a decent player count.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

You don't even play events so you don't know how unfair it seems to get to not even touch a european player without losing half of your hp first regardless of skill. It's not my fault people didn't want to get accustomed to a new HD hence it's 2 month oldness.


You're right, we all have different pings. I can't help myself getting hit so easily because I have the best internet service i can get in the area and I'm not upgrading to t1 just to have fun on Classic. Clientside was more in favor of laggers. Laggers are stoppable. UN has put up with them. Classic can't? On serverside, I lag to the europeans. Can i prevent myself from being hit from so far away because the server thinks im 3 tiles back from what i see on my screen? Not the likely case.

Despite playing events rarely, I still have no problem handling european players. They can hit me a little bit later, I can hit them a little bit earlier. Definitely not 3 tiles, as you continue to exagerate.(unless your ping is like 600-700ms, if so, sucks for you) I prehit Rufus and Kill and Xaphan regularly. One way or another, theres no sync, and these inconsistencies will occur.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

They left because they never wanted to adjust. They're not going to come back because Classic after 4 years has something that UN has already and not a whole lot else. If we had default HD like UN, people would still play UN. HD complaints were relevant in the past, but now its just an excuse to not play classic because it isn't as fun. They didn't come back for clientside HD, they aren't going to come back for a slightly better default HD, don't kid yourself. Until Classic has something to offer OVER other servers, we're not going to see a decent player count.

They left because we currently have some stupid HD that the people who had the advantage on it fought for it to be put back. Default is clearly the only HD anyone will admire the most.

Are you forgetting the part about the HD affecting most things on Classic? Events? Sparring? PK? I'm not sure what more you can offer that doesnt require the swing of your sword as much (Except the card game that is).

Despite playing events rarely, I still have no problem handling european players. They can hit me a little bit later, I can hit them a little bit earlier. Definitely not 3 tiles, as you continue to exagerate.(unless your ping is like 600-700ms, if so, sucks for you) I prehit Rufus and Kill and Xaphan regularly. One way or another, theres no sync, and these inconsistencies will occur.

I've been hit 2-3 tiles away numerous times. My ping averages 200-250 MS all the time and I can't help that it's like that. We played about 2 CTF's yesterday where i was reach hit by the Europeans a massive amount of times as well as other players. Serverside HD is not accurate at all to the players screens if your ping is high and just messes up your whole strategy. I don't know when to time myself, when to hit or anything because the fate of me being hit depends on my ping, which changes recursively. I just have to run like a rabbit and hope luck falls on my side with the hits. Serverside HD screws over 90 percent of the players now because we all lag. It just doesn't seem fair at all. Yeah, quite a bit of the Classic people want it back, but that's because they been on this HD for 4 years and bear no knowledge of accurately hitting from the looks of their complaints.

@Gladius: You still seem not to consider the fact of accurately hitting people. Yes your hits might not count, maybe it's because 90 percent of the people who play Classic LAG. Remember the server move to Europe? Different Story for the clientside HD had the server been in USA. Yes, both HD's screw us over but at least i want to know when I'm hit rather than knowing 3 tiles away.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

You still seem not to consider the fact of accurately hitting people. Yes your hits might not count, maybe it's because 90 percent of the people who play Classic LAG. Remember the server move to Europe? Different Story for the clientside HD had the server been in USA. Yes, both HD's screw us over but at least i want to know when I'm hit rather than knowing 3 tiles away.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

[..]It sounds completely selfish to yell at them because they're not catering to your tastes. I have seen several people appreciate what the devs have done on various things. Just because they aren't catering to you, Dusty, doesn't give you the right to call them out and keep *****ing[..]