Low playercount

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

I think the numbers accurately represent opinions. I was never into your server much, sorry, but wasn't the playercount usually lower than servers like N-Pulse (before UN came in and stole the show), or UN (after it stole the show from NP), and Graal the Adventure before... well, I don't really know what caused that server to lose players, but let's just say... before that happened. Anyways, the dominant servers likely succeed because they have something to suck you into the gameplay early enough and keep you there. Sounds simple enough, right? Well, sometimes this doesn't happen. Sometimes you have to dig a little deeper to find awesomeness. So maybe that's why some servers keep a stable playercount, but don't reach the big numbers like the other ones. I'm guessing yours was one of those... ?

Maloria v2 (2004-2005) was always at the top 3, fighting with UN and Era about the playercount, until we ruined the server by competing about who could release the best updates. I can't say about v1, because I wasn't into Maloria at the time.

[grim_squeaker_x]

Originally Posted by kia345

Why is it that the only people really pushing the "GRAAL IS DEAD" crusade are the ones nobody really likes?

uh?

[DarkRenji]

Originally Posted by kia345

Why is it that the only people really pushing the "GRAAL IS DEAD" crusade are the ones nobody really likes?

because its dead to them

[Kamaeru]

Listen, Graal died to me when Graal2001 died.

Consider the fact that we don't have Graal The Adventure, Graal2001, or any of the servers that used to be so great. Instead of them existing, they don't exist. They're not just going to pop up out of anywhere, either. We did a lot of work reviving Graal2001 multiple times. It's not going to just happen.

Graal is a case where I have extremely perplexing memories from the years ranging from 2000-2006. And by that I mean, in those wonderful years I had on Graal, I was constantly asking myself a question, "When is Graal going to die?", and this was a really crucial question for me!

Like, really, Graal is a real enigma. I've never experienced anything like it in my life. It struck me so fantastically that it definitely hypnotized me in those years. So a question of when will it end was a real brain buster.

Then one day Graal2001 basically died in my arms. I mean that in a literal sense. I spent as many days on that server as the only player as anyone possibly could have, that's for sure. Then we would get a revival going, and after so much time wishing I could see the map filled with little heads, it would happen! 300+ players on a dead server for a month straight.

And then it dies just as fast as it came back. This is the real fate of Graal.

[kia345]

Were they really that great, or are you just drunk with nostalgia?

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by kia345

Were they really that great, or are you just drunk with nostalgia?

Graal the Adventure definitely was, but so were servers like Rudora (although the majority would disagree with me) and Maloria. When Maloria went off, Graal personally died for me, but I'm still here trying to revive it, and I'll be damned to learn Resurrection Rank 6 just to be able to do it sooner or later.

[Codein]

I agree with xXZiroXx on this one. We should be trying to complete our projects rather than moaning.

[thesmoothcriminal]

Originally Posted by Codein

I agree with xXZiroXx on this one. We should be trying to complete our projects rather than moaning.

Me too. I wish CJ would work with us not againist us.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by thesmoothcriminal

Me too. I wish CJ would work with us not againist us.

What do you mean by that?

[thesmoothcriminal]

Originally Posted by Stefan

What do you mean by that?

Well theres proof you guys read the forums but then why dont you respond to our concerns?

Theres plenty of valid points raised that you may have or may have not read but if your truly concerned (and i hope you are) then you need go through the many threads addressing the concerns of players towards CJ.

I really cant do everyone who posted issues justice but one thing that we would all like to see is our concerns and issues acknowledged and responded to. Maybe a weekly developers blog? a future plan for us to see? an FAQ for common criticisms of graal/CJ and why the decisions were made so we can understand.

This may sound like alot but if you want players to invest money and their time into graal then i think we should deserve some of this.
Communication between you guys and the player population is one thing i (and others) would like to see more of.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by thesmoothcriminal

Communication between you guys and the player population is one thing i (and others) would like to see more of.

Agreed.

[DrakilorP2P]

Since Graal is dead, let's stop posting and refrain from logging in again.

[CABAL49]

I miss Shaded Legend, it's staff may have given up on it but it was still fun.

[XdNemesisXd]

Playerworld servers is what makes Graal. Graal the Adventure was great and I thought Graal was great but everyone moans and the reason Graal is dying is because stubid updates. All updates I think have pushed alot of people away. Bomy Island has been in production for ever. Era, and UN if they ever go into there own game Graal willl be luckey to have a playercount 150+. There used to be servers that had like 200+ sometimes. Thoose were the fun times and everyone knew eachother. Know there is only like 300 people on and people just do whatever. The people who stayed with Graal are not always the lovers. I know people who loved Graal and the quit. When Graal The Advneture left I was like wow are you kidding me good bye Graal then I quit and came back to find out we have Graal##### for account names. I used to play when ym cousin showed this game and yes it was fun way back then. I came to realize this when there are about 50 post about how to make Graal better but none of them taken into conceration to Stefan and the rest of the Graal owners. Honstly how long has Bomy been being made?????? Relesse it please or relsse a beta so wwe can try it

[Elk]

It is the communities fault for what state graal is in now.
Don't blame CJ for not doing anything.
CJ is no gameforge, its a company for hosting purposes, not game development.

Stefan made the graalengine so that you guys can develop your own stuff, which is so awesome in my opinion, it helped me so much in my career you can't believe it, even tho I payed like over 700$ in the time I've been playing graal, it was totally worth it.
To whoever said that CJ has to get paid developers...can you imagine how much a developer is for 1 month? Too much,
for a rather small company like CJ. And you don't need to have paid developers if you have dedicated developers
that do work for free sometimes (like me). I only charge money off people outside of graal like companies or w/e, but not inside of graal,
because it's fun and I'm paying back what I got from it, more or less.

Also, referring to the communication issue between CJ and the Community...I don't know another game that has
excellent contact to the staff of a Game like Graal has, you can contact any of the Staffs and get a response after
1 day or less, when I used to have contact to Blizzard I had to wait a few days to get a response. Anyways, it's bad to compary Blizzard with CJ...
What I'm trying to say is, don't just blame CJ (god I talk so much nonsense!)
And CJ isn't working against you...if you want to contribute your skills and influence the games and other stuff,
why not just apply, show your skills if you are good enough.

You can't imagine how sad I was when the Graal 3D project was cancelled, more or less, just because there were no people around that could constantly create nice models =/...Stefan is doing so much for us but even he is limited

This thread is so stupid, someone delete it please -_-