Rated M for mature.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Inverness

I noticed some people mentioning NPCs having sex and I'll say right now that sex is above the M rating and I don't even think it should be considered in the least.

This topic is about the mature themes that aren't related to sex, such as violence, blood, gore, etc.

violence, blood, gore.


Unholy Nation:
violence

Zodiac:
violence
blood

Era:
violence
blood

Valikoria:
violence

Classic:
violence

N-Pulse:
violence

Delteria:
violence

Atlantis:
violence

These are just what I know from the little I play classic servers.

Also, lets set this straight- you really can't show gore in a 2d game with 32x32 images ...

[Cloven]

Regarding Nudity, Gore/Blood, and Violence, a game must possess the following to receive a rating of 'M'.

The game must contain extended or continuous 'adult themed' content in that:

-Said content must be of a realistic nature with regards to gore and violence (See games like GTA3).
(Note: This is why games like Ratchet & Clank are rated 'E' even though they are combat-oriented).

-Games with nudity must contain a sexual connotation.
(Showing brief nudity in games is not considered Mature until sexually suggestive elements come into play. Simply showing breasts is not suggesting that kids should go have sex.)

Hope this clears a few misconceptions up.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Cloven

-Games with nudity must contain a sexual connotation.
(Showing brief nudity in games is not considered Mature until sexually suggestive elements come into play. Simply showing breasts is not suggesting that kids should go have sex.)

You can have sex in Fable and it's only M rated, whereas public bath scenes are unlockables in Riviera and it's only T rated.

ESRB doesn't seem strict on games that don't have the words "Auto" or "Kombat"

[Tom]

Originally Posted by kia345

You can have sex in Fable and it's only M rated, whereas public bath scenes are unlockables in Riviera and it's only T rated.

ESRB doesn't seem strict on games that don't have the words "Auto" or "Kombat"

i am so gettign Riviera for those mornings of bored PC useage

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by kia345

You can have sex in Fable and it's only M rated, whereas public bath scenes are unlockables in Riviera and it's only T rated.

ESRB doesn't seem strict on games that don't have the words "Auto" or "Kombat"

Is there sex or intent to have sex in the public bath scenes? If not, then that's why it's T rated, which reinforces my point.

[cbk1994]

Well, what I've been trying to say is that I don't think you'd be able to make a server that would receive an M rating if rated by ESRB.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Cloven

Is there sex or intent to have sex in the public bath scenes? If not, then that's why it's T rated, which reinforces my point.

Multiple underage girls splashing each other joyfully in a bath and cleaning each other while the main character hides behind a rock watching.

Now really, why would a guy watch a bunch of girls while hidden from view if sex wasn't an excuse?

Of course! Sex in video games is wrong, but promoting pedophilia is perfectly fine!

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Well, what I've been trying to say is that I don't think you'd be able to make a server that would receive an M rating if rated by ESRB.

You can easily make 'realistic' gore and violence in a 2D game. It just depends on how well you do the art.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by kia345

Multiple underage girls splashing each other joyfully in a bath and cleaning each other while the main character hides behind a rock watching.

Now really, why would a guy watch a bunch of girls while hidden from view if sex wasn't an excuse?

Of course! Sex in video games is wrong, but promoting pedophilia is perfectly fine!

Hahahaha.

[napo_p2p]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

You can easily make 'realistic' gore and violence in a 2D game. It just depends on how well you do the art.

Or what kind of 'art' you use .

[Spark910]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Also, lets set this straight- you really can't show gore in a 2d game with 32x32 images ...

Era has, or was planning to have, a blood effect that put blood on your surroundings after you see it coming out of you from being shot that I didn't like as PWA as it was a little graphic and unnecessary.

Sure, it's not THAT realistic (the gore), but neither is it adding much to gameplay, so I don't see the point.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Spark910

so I don't see the point.

Eye-candy.

If people like seeing blood spraying over walls then let them enable the feature and it just gives them more reason to like Era.

[Codein]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Well, what I've been trying to say is that I don't think you'd be able to make a server that would receive an M rating if rated by ESRB.

I'd take up that challenge ;D

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by kia345

Multiple underage girls splashing each other joyfully in a bath and cleaning each other while the main character hides behind a rock watching.

Now really, why would a guy watch a bunch of girls while hidden from view if sex wasn't an excuse?

They're simply trying to become more educated so they can get their doctorate in medical studies.

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

You can easily make 'realistic' gore and violence in a 2D game. It just depends on how well you do the art.

Well, I'm yet to see it made. Unless it's going to be way out of proportion, 16x16 to 32x32 is the size you get, I think you could probably just get some red dots of different colors ...

Originally Posted by napo_p2p

Or what kind of 'art' you use .

No one wants to borrow your collection, thanks though. just kidding <3

Originally Posted by Spark910

Era has, or was planning to have, a blood effect that put blood on your surroundings after you see it coming out of you from being shot that I didn't like as PWA as it was a little graphic and unnecessary.

Sure, it's not THAT realistic (the gore), but neither is it adding much to gameplay, so I don't see the point.

I would agree that a classic server should stay below what is now being called an 'M' rating, especially one that is played so much. Still, those graphics were just little red dots.

Originally Posted by Inverness

reason to like Era.

Where?

Originally Posted by Codein

I'd take up that challenge ;D

I'm sure you would happily

[DustyPorViva]

Why should classic servers have to stay "friendly" in terms of content? I don't get the big deal as to why people are so regulating on this stuff... if they have a disclaimer then what's the big deal?

Also... why do you have this firm believe that blood in 3D is more realistic than blood in 2D? In the end, they're both just made of pixels. One just happens to be in an extra dimension... which doesn't even matter since blood in 3D is always flat. You can take the blood texture from any 3D game and put it in a 2D game and it's still the same. It's all about how you perceive it.

[Codein]

Well, I'd give it a go. It probably won't be a whole PW project, just a little side project. Like, maybe you start out on the basement and you have to get to the helicopter on the roof.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Why should classic servers have to stay "friendly" in terms of content? I don't get the big deal as to why people are so regulating on this stuff... if they have a disclaimer then what's the big deal?

Also... why do you have this firm believe that blood in 3D is more realistic than blood in 2D? In the end, they're both just made of pixels. One just happens to be in an extra dimension... which doesn't even matter since blood in 3D is always flat. You can take the blood texture from any 3D game and put it in a 2D game and it's still the same. It's all about how you perceive it.

It's not just that it's 2D. Someone, seriously, make me a 16x16 image of gore ...

[DustyPorViva]

You do realize that the textures for gore in 3D game are actually images? Back before the 2nd gen of 3D gaming(PSX, N64... think Resident Evil 2), most of the textures were around that size(well, actually, around 32x32). Games like RE2 were considered very mature for their blood and gore.

[Codein]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

It's not just that it's 2D. Someone, seriously, make me a 16x16 image of gore ...

Don't forget that effects on graal can exceed that specification. Like a spray of blood up a wall can stretch to many 16n by 16n pixels. Like, say (if this was full scripted and stuff), you threw a grenade at someone and, maybe using some sort of scripted gib engine, launched limbs in all direction and splattered blood where ever these limbs touched... now, I'd say that was pretty gory. Also, the brain also gets a splatter of pink.

[kia345]

Just make everyone in said violent server a Zorbi with purple blood and green organs.

[oinknessx]

It's freaking Zelda sprites, grow a pair... it's not like they're forcing you to watch an Al Quada beheading or something

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by oinknessx

grow a pair...

If everyone followed by this philosophy, there'd be no ESRB.