Graal Forums  

Go Back   Graal Forums > Development Forums > Future Improvements
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-28-2005, 02:57 PM
Rufus Rufus is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 4,698
Rufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud of
Admin-Playerworld Forum Access

I think that the Admin-Playerworld account that you get when you register a playerworld should be allowed to be used on the forums as perhaps the person who has registered the playerworld may not have a p2p or a vip account, and to post for help or problems they would not have a forum account. Perhaps not full access to posting on the forums, maybe just the playerworld forum? I myself would not benifit from this at all it was just a suggestion.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loriel View Post
Seriously, you have ****-all for content and you're not exactly pulling in new developer talent, angling for prestigious titles should be your last concern.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-28-2005, 04:13 PM
KuJi KuJi is offline
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Staten Island, New York
Posts: 2,202
KuJi will become famous soon enough
Send a message via ICQ to KuJi Send a message via AIM to KuJi Send a message via MSN to KuJi Send a message via Yahoo to KuJi
Rofl, I seen in the forums rules that you couldn't. So I tried to register and it worked, so I think they should either:
A) Disable it from working.
B) Let us go free.

Admin-Playerworld64 --> Mine --> it's the newest forum user
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-28-2005, 05:00 PM
Rufus Rufus is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 4,698
Rufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud ofRufus has much to be proud of
I bet you cant post though.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loriel View Post
Seriously, you have ****-all for content and you're not exactly pulling in new developer talent, angling for prestigious titles should be your last concern.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-28-2005, 05:34 PM
Spark910 Spark910 is offline
Ex-Graal Global
Spark910's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: England
Posts: 10,892
Spark910 has a spectacular aura about
I think it should be able to be used on the forums, so if Stefan/Unixmad read this they may agree, there isn't many worthwhile arguments against it.
__________________
--Spark911
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-28-2005, 07:44 PM
KuJi KuJi is offline
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Staten Island, New York
Posts: 2,202
KuJi will become famous soon enough
Send a message via ICQ to KuJi Send a message via AIM to KuJi Send a message via MSN to KuJi Send a message via Yahoo to KuJi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus
I bet you cant post though.
Duh, you have to be activated. That's the only prob :-(
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-28-2005, 08:03 PM
RagedWebJAL RagedWebJAL is offline
Tipo Del Sig. Nizza
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 27
RagedWebJAL is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to RagedWebJAL Send a message via Yahoo to RagedWebJAL
Well, I know that sometimes there may be like 2 other admins with access to the Admin Playerworld account info on many of the servers. People tend to give the pw to their co-owners/high admin(s) and whatnot. So then would it be that easy to trust them with posting on a forum and getting you/your server into trouble? No. Don't do it. You can tell people to not give the admin pw out, but hell, you can also just as easily tell someone not to drink and drive.
__________________
[]D []-[] []-\ []\[] ¯[]¯ [[]] []\/[]
I am Nobody.
Nobody is perfect.
Therefore, I am Perfect.

./\_/\
(^_^)
(")_(")

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52328&page=25&pp=15&highlight=Pic tures
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-28-2005, 08:51 PM
Velox Cruentus Velox Cruentus is offline
Registered User
Velox Cruentus's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 465
Velox Cruentus is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to Velox Cruentus Send a message via AIM to Velox Cruentus
I support the Admin-Playerworld accounts allowed to go on the forums as for they are an reliable person who could represent their server. This would enhance the authencity of the information they bring, as well as reflect the playerworld themselves. Persay -- If the admin of... Doomsday, persay, comes on the forums and displays the news on it, then you can trust that the information is accurate. If the person on the admin account goofs off, and acts quite immature, that would leave an impecible impression on the server in having a lack of professionalism. Likewise, if they do act appropiately as a promoting citizen of Graal, then their server would get the connotion of being professional, and rather well organized.

It would make the players have a rough opinion on how the server is actually. This would server much purpose in either seeking for jobs, or likewise.

The least pleasent thing I see in this is that the playerworld owner can share, and change passwords. This is quite obviously a flaw because multiple people can post on the forums under a single title. Although this is the problem of the user themselves, they should be capable of knowing the consequences of their actions. They paid for the servers, meaning that they either had possession of enough money to do so, or had their parents give a heafty some for it. Either case, the user themselves shouldn't readily give the admin account to anyone unless they are willing to lose what they purchased.

Thereby, it should be left in a gray-area and accepted, and banned if they abuse the situation of such.
__________________
In a world of change... Who'll you believe?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-29-2005, 12:32 AM
Hiro Hiro is offline
\(^∀^)メ(≧∇≦)ノ
Hiro's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,965
Hiro has a spectacular aura aboutHiro has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to Hiro
They paid for it, Forums should be a given.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-29-2005, 01:03 AM
KuJi KuJi is offline
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Staten Island, New York
Posts: 2,202
KuJi will become famous soon enough
Send a message via ICQ to KuJi Send a message via AIM to KuJi Send a message via MSN to KuJi Send a message via Yahoo to KuJi
You can change your password of the admin acct from your PW pass
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-29-2005, 01:16 AM
Robin Robin is offline
The secret of NIMH
Robin's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Wales, UK
Posts: 515
Robin will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Robin
Unless of course, someome steals the Admin-Playerworld account. I wonder how many PWs have been stolen since I left?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-29-2005, 01:19 AM
p2p_Sir_Link p2p_Sir_Link is offline
Banned
p2p_Sir_Link's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 425
p2p_Sir_Link is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin
Unless of course, someome steals the Admin-Playerworld account. I wonder how many PWs have been stolen since I left?
It's pretty hard to steal a password, and if you steal passwords, why go for an Admin-Playerworld one?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-29-2005, 01:22 AM
Robin Robin is offline
The secret of NIMH
Robin's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Wales, UK
Posts: 515
Robin will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Robin
Quote:
Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
It's pretty hard to steal a password, and if you steal passwords, why go for an Admin-Playerworld one?
because they usually have all the rights on a playerworld? Back when I left little ****es stealing playerworlds and uploading antigraalian crap on them was rife.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-29-2005, 01:35 AM
p2p_Sir_Link p2p_Sir_Link is offline
Banned
p2p_Sir_Link's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 425
p2p_Sir_Link is an unknown quantity at this point
Most playerworlds never go anywhere, hackers don't really waste time. Stealing playerworlds now a days consists of someone getting rights, and stripping away the rights of the admin account, not stealing the account all together.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-29-2005, 06:50 AM
RagedWebJAL RagedWebJAL is offline
Tipo Del Sig. Nizza
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 27
RagedWebJAL is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to RagedWebJAL Send a message via Yahoo to RagedWebJAL
Quote:
Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
Stealing playerworlds now a days consists of someone getting rights, and stripping away the rights of the admin account, not stealing the account all together.

True, but it is easier to steal the whole account, which can easily be done through any instant messaging client that accepts file transfers. I won't go into detail with it, for obvious security reasons, but someone mentioned earlier that if someone could have Admin-Playerworld###:abCDefGa for client/RC, and for forums, it could be Admin-Playerworld###:aGfeDCba, for example. That would be the safest way, with different passwords, because it is true that if someone pays all that money for a server, they should be able to access forums regularly without needing a seperate account to do forums.

And since we are discussing Admin accounts, just curious, why aren't they allowed the regular features when playing on a different server? If anything, since you pay more for an Admin-Playerworld account, we should be able to save and what-not. The only argument I can think of to dispute that is that if you have an Admin account, your main (if not, only) objective should be bettering your server.
__________________
[]D []-[] []-\ []\[] ¯[]¯ [[]] []\/[]
I am Nobody.
Nobody is perfect.
Therefore, I am Perfect.

./\_/\
(^_^)
(")_(")

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52328&page=25&pp=15&highlight=Pic tures
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-29-2005, 09:20 AM
Spark910 Spark910 is offline
Ex-Graal Global
Spark910's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: England
Posts: 10,892
Spark910 has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin
Unless of course, someome steals the Admin-Playerworld account. I wonder how many PWs have been stolen since I left?
Probably less than 10. And those would be immediately around the time you left, it is very rare now.
__________________
--Spark911
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-29-2005, 10:03 AM
StanislavHunter StanislavHunter is offline
mangzilla
StanislavHunter's Avatar
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 105
StanislavHunter is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to StanislavHunter Send a message via MSN to StanislavHunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiro
They paid for it, Forums should be a given.
I agree with Hiro. If I pay $60 for a server, I would want access to the forums so I could report any problems or ask any questions of my server.
__________________

I'm totally Mexican.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-29-2005, 04:21 PM
KuJi KuJi is offline
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Staten Island, New York
Posts: 2,202
KuJi will become famous soon enough
Send a message via ICQ to KuJi Send a message via AIM to KuJi Send a message via MSN to KuJi Send a message via Yahoo to KuJi
Rofl, I don't bother to delete levels ro anything anymore. I problaly could knock out 5 a day. Instead lvl/npc packs r good enough for me ;-)
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-29-2005, 06:11 PM
Matt Matt is offline
iZone Administrator
Matt's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: United States
Posts: 2,690
Matt is a jewel in the roughMatt is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by StanislavHunter
I agree with Hiro. If I pay $60 for a server, I would want access to the forums so I could report any problems or ask any questions of my server.
I guess they figure whomever buys a Playerworld already has a upgraded account.
__________________
Need Playerworld or Account support?
GraalOnline/Toonslab Support Center
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-29-2005, 06:20 PM
KuJi KuJi is offline
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Staten Island, New York
Posts: 2,202
KuJi will become famous soon enough
Send a message via ICQ to KuJi Send a message via AIM to KuJi Send a message via MSN to KuJi Send a message via Yahoo to KuJi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
I guess they figure whomever buys a Playerworld already has a upgraded account.
You suppost to have VIP to do so.. I think
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-29-2005, 06:23 PM
Matt Matt is offline
iZone Administrator
Matt's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: United States
Posts: 2,690
Matt is a jewel in the roughMatt is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by KuJi
You suppost to have VIP to do so.. I think
When i said 'upgraded' i was refferring to Gold/VIP. And yes you do need Gold/VIP to register on these forums.
__________________
Need Playerworld or Account support?
GraalOnline/Toonslab Support Center
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 04-29-2005, 06:56 PM
KuJi KuJi is offline
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Staten Island, New York
Posts: 2,202
KuJi will become famous soon enough
Send a message via ICQ to KuJi Send a message via AIM to KuJi Send a message via MSN to KuJi Send a message via Yahoo to KuJi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
When i said 'upgraded' i was refferring to Gold/VIP. And yes you do need Gold/VIP to register on these forums.
No i mean VIP to buy a PW:

Also:

Dear Admin-Playerworld64,

Unfortunately your registration at Graal Communication Center (reserved for gold and vip subscribers) did not meet our membership requirements. Therefore your registration was deleted.

Sorry,
Graal Communication Center (reserved for gold and vip subscribers) team
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-29-2005, 06:57 PM
Skyld Skyld is offline
Script-fu
Skyld's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3,914
Skyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Skyld
I agree that forums access should be granted. I tried registering Rudora_Admin4 for an experiment. The request for confirmation by the admins was denied, and I got an email saying "Your request did not meet our requirements", or something along the lines of.
I would certainly agree that if you pay however much for a playerworld, then forum access should be allowed.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-29-2005, 07:02 PM
Matt Matt is offline
iZone Administrator
Matt's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: United States
Posts: 2,690
Matt is a jewel in the roughMatt is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyld
I agree that forums access should be granted. I tried registering Rudora_Admin4 for an experiment. The request for confirmation by the admins was denied, and I got an email saying "Your request did not meet our requirements", or something along the lines of.
I would certainly agree that if you pay however much for a playerworld, then forum access should be allowed.
IF/WHEN they allow Admin-Playerworld## to access these forums, i don't think old Admin accounts like your Rudora_Admin4 account. Werent those created easily with the old school RCs?
__________________
Need Playerworld or Account support?
GraalOnline/Toonslab Support Center
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-29-2005, 07:33 PM
KuJi KuJi is offline
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Staten Island, New York
Posts: 2,202
KuJi will become famous soon enough
Send a message via ICQ to KuJi Send a message via AIM to KuJi Send a message via MSN to KuJi Send a message via Yahoo to KuJi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyld
I agree that forums access should be granted. I tried registering Rudora_Admin4 for an experiment. The request for confirmation by the admins was denied, and I got an email saying "Your request did not meet our requirements", or something along the lines of.
I would certainly agree that if you pay however much for a playerworld, then forum access should be allowed.
O.o. How did u get Rudora_Admin4 etc..
I need a couple of those ;-(.
One 4 loriel.
One 4 me.
One 4 a couple of staff.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-29-2005, 07:34 PM
Matt Matt is offline
iZone Administrator
Matt's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: United States
Posts: 2,690
Matt is a jewel in the roughMatt is a jewel in the rough
I think they were created with the old RC graal used to have. I don't think they came with a Playerworld when you purchased one.
__________________
Need Playerworld or Account support?
GraalOnline/Toonslab Support Center
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-29-2005, 08:26 PM
KuJi KuJi is offline
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Staten Island, New York
Posts: 2,202
KuJi will become famous soon enough
Send a message via ICQ to KuJi Send a message via AIM to KuJi Send a message via MSN to KuJi Send a message via Yahoo to KuJi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
I think they were created with the old RC graal used to have. I don't think they came with a Playerworld when you purchased one.
Yea, but by rudora I don't think they had them anymore. And I think you had to request them. In the control panel for playerworlds, it says smething about making them. That's why I was wondering.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 04-29-2005, 08:30 PM
Matt Matt is offline
iZone Administrator
Matt's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: United States
Posts: 2,690
Matt is a jewel in the roughMatt is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by KuJi
Yea, but by rudora I don't think they had them anymore. And I think you had to request them. In the control panel for playerworlds, it says smething about making them. That's why I was wondering.
Oh, well you can't get them anymore, i know that. I remember a while back Stefan saying he was disableing Administrative access for accounts such as:
Bravo_GP

The reason behind this was because there would be a couple of those accounts per server meaning alot more Administrative access. Well more than of what is allowed today.
__________________
Need Playerworld or Account support?
GraalOnline/Toonslab Support Center
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 05-03-2005, 01:27 AM
Skyld Skyld is offline
Script-fu
Skyld's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3,914
Skyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Skyld
I still have Rudora_Admin4 and 5, and they have to be requested, yes. All of the others were removed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
IF/WHEN they allow Admin-Playerworld## to access these forums, i don't think old Admin accounts like your Rudora_Admin4 account.
They are, in practise, no different to Admin-Playerworld accounts.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright (C) 1998-2019 Toonslab All Rights Reserved.