Server EXP reset

[Brad]

Okay.


We all know bugs have destroyed GK's leveling system. We know that 95% of the people on the server who are over level 60 have used some bug, illegal tool, or some other thing to level themself up in a quick matter. I propose an exp reset. You can keep items, stats, etc. I just want all levels to be reset to 1. Yes this would mean our weapons would get wiped, but possibly an npc could be made to receive our diamonds, iwds, ews, stat potions, etc. back to re-create the weapon. I think this would balance the game out to newbies, while not pissing people off who have had their items and worked hella hard for em'.

[GrowlZ1010]

Originally Posted by Brad

We know that 95% of the people on the server who are over level 60 have used some bug, illegal tool, or some other thing to level themself up in a quick matter. I propose an exp reset.

Oh, yeah. That'll help. The people who have done so in the past will find such security holes or utilities again and level themselves back up. Again and again, resets have always hurt the low to mid-range players; people who cheat will do so again, whereas those who don't are forced to go back to the drawing board.

If you're so sure that it's the Lv60+ people who are at fault here, why not propose an EXP reset for them? I mean, it should be quite obvious that people at level one, two, ten, fifteen, twenty and so on haven't cheated their way to free EXP. Why punish them and their hard work for the immorality of others? Of course, there are Lv60+ folks who have earned their level, and this isn't fair on them, either. So this isn't really a practical plan in either case.

Resetting a stat is a method of being seen to deal with a problem without actually having to do anything. How does the ol' saying go? "Prevention is better than cure." Cracking down on cheating - even just something like a log and NC alert every time someone gets huge amounts of EXP in a short space of time - is better than erasing everything because of the exploits of a tiny number of people.

Granted, there are some circumstances in which it is useful to hold a reset; after a server overhaul, say. Most of the time, though, it's just too heavy-handed.

[Crono]

Graal 2002 just needs any bugs it has worked out then possibly a total reset. I dont know, something has to be done. It's not balanced as it is now and all the high levels are bastards/egotistical/full of shizzle/ and think they can pk by picking on level 10's like me.

I would SO like to kick ana's ass on a real pk server. There are SOME exceptions to the whole "all high levels suck" thing though. <3 nalle

[GoZelda]

I think that, while the server is under construction, no one should be able to rise above the level that was seen as the maximum anyone could get with the experience resources we had. No one was expected to go higher then lvl.50 on Brutals. Now it's normal. This is what went wrong. All those above lvl.50 should be lvl.50.

[protagonist]

There certainly needs to be a ceiling, and after a few more things are added there needs to be a reset.

The server can't be in development forever.

[Splke]

Ag0ny went to lvl 83 semi-legitly.. he spent 200 hours in the HH getting 33 Brutals, then he mapped them, got 23 levels off of them. Makes sense.

I agree with Brad, all except for the reset. You made money off of GK, your a horrible person for proposing a reset.

[brock128]

2k2 neerds a LOT more then a reset.

[davidpsy]

Here is what I propose what should happen. First off no one even staff unless they are strictly testing an item or something should get things that normal players cant get. They also should remove what ever advange item or something once they are done testing. Meaning use common sence dont just say your "testing" an item that will never be realised to the public. Also I think perhaps invoking a system where your level goes down if you dont train after a while would be reasonable. This way it keeps things more balanced. Finally I think in order to keep a community each class should have its own advantage to making money and we would need to remove scrolls that allow certain class's to gain the advantages of other class's. By doing this people will be interdepident of other people this way there is always something to do and everything is more balanced. I also think they should make food more rare and perhaps remove the amlute of substance so that food also takes a play in this. Do not get me wrong dont make it too hard for food to be gotten but challanging enough thats all. Because how things are now only newbies have to eat. Everyone else has a substance amulate or prays to the right god or something.

I think it would be interesting for kingdoms to go on a "food hunt" where they all hunt different monsters and gather food for their kingdom. But yeah you might be saying well what if some smack tard goes and eats all the food. The answer to this is make it so if your food meter is full that you cannot eat any more food.

[Crono]

I agree with donald on the "no special items" thing he said at the beginning.

[davidpsy]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I agree with donald on the "no special items" thing he said at the beginning.

Heh thanks =), I think I did a pretty good outlineing the aspacts needed to be changed in order to make gk into a more fun online game.

[Crono]

Personally I also believe that any clothes upload should be able to be used by everyone.

[davidpsy]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Personally I also believe that any clothes upload should be able to be used by everyone.

I think it would be easyer on everyone if they had one large main cloth shop or better yet made clothes an item like armor and certain clothes would be rarer then others. Like hats and shogun hats like how it was on 2k1.

[Crono]

The staff are too lazy to do ganis.

[GTXOO]

No a full reset is the only suitable way to make balance for 'a while'.

Just exp, and keeping all the duped corupt gained weapons rings and armor, will allow them to level quickly.

[Matman58]

Question....if you don't play kingdoms for awhile does your account automatically reset??
Because mine did and now I gotta start all over and well I am just not going to do it. Cause it was hard to get where I was.

[MasterNuke]

Balance everything and get everything working... then start annoying the hell out of everyone with new bothersome chores... a gentle rise to the top then a small downfall to make a smooth ride... not some crazy thing that will drive people up the wall and down 5 times... Balance -> Content -> Annoying as hell things such as food -> Reset.

[Crono]

I dont get it Mr.Ed :o

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Completely pointless.

[MasterNuke]

I've explained this before... you fix the bugs and THEN reset... not reset and then fix bugs...

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Splke

Ag0ny went to lvl 83 semi-legitly.. he spent 200 hours in the HH getting 33 Brutals, then he mapped them, got 23 levels off of them. Makes sense.

I agree with Brad, all except for the reset. You made money off of GK, your a horrible person for proposing a reset.

Nah, i proposed exp. I said people should keep their items. I am not that big of a scumbag.

[Dehitay]

Originally Posted by Brad

Okay.


We all know bugs have destroyed GK's leveling system. We know that 95% of the people on the server who are over level 60 have used some bug, illegal tool, or some other thing to level themself up in a quick matter. I propose an exp reset. You can keep items, stats, etc. I just want all levels to be reset to 1. Yes this would mean our weapons would get wiped, but possibly an npc could be made to receive our diamonds, iwds, ews, stat potions, etc. back to re-create the weapon. I think this would balance the game out to newbies, while not pissing people off who have had their items and worked hella hard for em'.

I know a certain person who has illegally used a game client to gain money
Maybe Graal should sue that certain individual for all that money that he has made and then wipe out his items
Not only does this punish somebody for gaining stuff illegally, it also doesn't punish innocent people like you suggest

[Nappa]

I know anyone above level 70 or so has used a bug that has been pointed out by certain players to me and has been reported to staff.

It has to be imposible to get that high. I have level 19 physical, and it takes me 5-6 brutals to get one level where I kill everything in the map.

[Splke]

We have had over 28 these threads, and not one movement by staff.. why do we try.

[axman36]

Originally Posted by Brad

Okay.


We all know bugs have destroyed GK's leveling system. We know that 95% of the people on the server who are over level 60 have used some bug, illegal tool, or some other thing to level themself up in a quick matter. I propose an exp reset. You can keep items, stats, etc. I just want all levels to be reset to 1. Yes this would mean our weapons would get wiped, but possibly an npc could be made to receive our diamonds, iwds, ews, stat potions, etc. back to re-create the weapon. I think this would balance the game out to newbies, while not pissing people off who have had their items and worked hella hard for em'.

this is all what will happen, everyone will be lv 1, and the cheaters will just use the thing again, and everyone but the cheaters will be 1 while the cheaters will be 60, just put a if you see a lv 60 person tell staff and they will freeze thing.

[Thallen]

How about we don't punish those that leveled legitly, and half the EXP of those who DID use a bug, if proven?

[Hydrogen_X]

Originally Posted by Thallen

How about we don't punish those that leveled legitly, and half the EXP of those who DID use a bug, if proven?

Trouble is, it can't be proven. Some of these alleged "bugs" would be pretty easy to accidentally use, so anyone's who's ever done that should be reset?

[zs0]

No special items? Rar. I love my War Axe. Keep war axes pls

[Thallen]

Originally Posted by Hydrogen_X

Trouble is, it can't be proven. Some of these alleged "bugs" would be pretty easy to accidentally use, so anyone's who's ever done that should be reset?

Yeah, maybe someone accidently bugged 50 levels!

[MasterNuke]

There is no quick way to tell if someone has abused a bug or not... They will not openly admit to using the bug, and not knowing a specific time will take maybe a day per account to search logs. To go through that insanity is a huge waste of time... especially when they already have a long list of things to do.

[Mousefuzz]

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

There is no quick way to tell if someone has abused a bug or not... They will not openly admit to using the bug, and not knowing a specific time will take maybe a day per account to search logs. To go through that insanity is a huge waste of time... especially when they already have a long list of things to do.

A lot of people myself included gained overall levels fromthe ruby recipe , stefan okayed this and it is legal . I have heard there are some bugs but I dont know of any since the party bug years ago. I gained my lev 51 physical the hardway , i leveled personality to level 21 by doing bomys and working up, I leveled magic the regular way , I am now trying to level agility and wisdom. I was doing HH over and over to get maps , doing lev 1's , 3's to get maps .
You have to have a commitment to level , for a long time people like zoe, wren , aki that was all they did . Come on graal then level , wren saved up 200+ level 1's and did them. There are a limited amount of really good items , and those with the perseverence to work for stuff , even if you reset will be on top. Do you have that commitment? If you dont , reset or not -I will pwn you ( humbly yours Ana Sagesun ) oh and brad <3333

[Thallen]

Originally Posted by Mousefuzz

A lot of people myself included gained overall levels fromthe ruby recipe , stefan okayed this and it is legal . I have heard there are some bugs but I dont know of any since the party bug years ago. I gained my lev 51 physical the hardway , i leveled personality to level 21 by doing bomys and working up, I leveled magic the regular way , I am now trying to level agility and wisdom. I was doing HH over and over to get maps , doing lev 1's , 3's to get maps .
You have to have a commitment to level , for a long time people like zoe, wren , aki that was all they did . Come on graal then level , wren saved up 200+ level 1's and did them. There are a limited amount of really good items , and those with the perseverence to work for stuff , even if you reset will be on top. Do you have that commitment? If you dont , reset or not -I will pwn you ( humbly yours Ana Sagesun )

Is level 45 at 390 hours 'commiting' well? Without bugs, that is.

[Splke]

Anybody who says Graal is a commitment is a nerd

[Mousefuzz]

Originally Posted by Splke

Anybody who says Graal is a commitment is a nerd

What I reference to by the word commitment is doing well , working hard at whatever you decide to do , playing hard , climbing the hill to be queen/king.
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[Emily_Cruddas]

yea, i have almost all +10 gear from trading brutals for EA's, it's a bit hard getting started, but i'll do it all over again if it means having more fairness to GK.



btw i'm still level 11, no big deal for me.

[Googi]

Well, it actually seems like it would make more sense to do an item reset to revive the economy.

[LordMatt]

leveling is so boring I don't see how anyone can do it. i would rather be sitting in the doctors office waiting to get shots between the webbings of my fingers and toes.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Googi

Well, it actually seems like it would make more sense to do an item reset to revive the economy.

But an item reset wouldn't do much good as the very high level players would be able to quickly regain what they lost compared to the lower levels.

[xManiamaNx]

I think they should have a full reset. reset all the stats/exp/items. Reset all the playerhouses, pets and all that stuff.

[ezwider]

EXP reset is pointless, all of the bugged alchemy items still exist, crazy event items that were given to friends by ET's, renaming sacks bug, the list goes on. Its like getting your hand amputated for a gunshot to the hand.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

A reset of any kind won't make the slightest bit of difference right now. STOP MAKING ME SAY THAT O_O