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Old 07-11-2002, 03:25 PM
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Who is his superior? Nemesis? Unixmad? Stefan? Oh yeah i get responses from the all the time
All of them, I guess.

I'm with 'TIKI on this one.

Also, Kamuii, I think deleting Sarma is pretty stupid. Just take away the 59k and give THT the bomy back. :x

Edit: Unless, of course, the money has already been used up or something. If that's the case I guess your solution is better. But I think I better solution would be to auction it out.
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:26 PM
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Oh so you take your beloved bomy, coruptly buy it which most have gotten over... now you're DELTEING it all together...

Good plan, i hope they don't tie you too tightly to the flaming stake :o
I could always give it back to TrueHeaT and take the 59k out of the Karakaze funds.

But I like the idea of a shrine and keeping Sarma as the rarest bomy better.
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:26 PM
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What the hell is wrong with deleting a guild with an offensive name? What, Lithuanians don't deserve the same protection from offense that Americans do? And what's wrong with Tiki taking an authoritative stance? He doesn't have to answer to Minoc; if somebody has a problem with him then they should address it to his superior.
That's not what I meant.
He is the only one who thinks this name is offensive, and Penga is just a slang word in Lithuanian, not a "real" word x_X
Also, many people complained to him about SS and SD, and I mean MANY, but he didn't do anything, but when something disturbs only him he deletes it.
He was rude to me and to the other people who pmed him about those guilds, and to many others as well, just read the pm history I posted.
Also what's the use og pming his superior, no one would ever respond.
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:28 PM
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That's not what I meant.
He is the only one who thinks this name is offensive, and Penga is just a slang word in Lithuanian, not a "real" word x_X
Also, many people complained to him about SS and SD, and I mean MANY, but he didn't do anything, but when something disturbs only him he deletes it.
He was rude to me and to the other people who pmed him about those guilds, and to many others as well, just read the pm history I posted.
Also what's the use og pming his superior, no one would ever respond.
So, therefore calling someone a "giant wang" on Graal is okay because it is slang?
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:30 PM
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All of them, I guess.

I'm with 'TIKI on this one.

Also, Kamuii, I think deleting Sarma is pretty stupid. Just take away the 59k and give THT the bomy back. :x

Edit: Unless, of course, the money has already been used up or something. If that's the case I guess your solution is better. But I think I better solution would be to auction it out.
:x If I give it back to TrueHeaT, he will sell it to Torankusu. THAT IS BAD.

But, you see. He put the money into the Karakaze Troupe funds...
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:32 PM
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:x If I give it back to TrueHeaT, he will sell it to Torankusu. THAT IS BAD.

But, you see. He put the money into the Karakaze Troupe funds...
Why can't Torankusu have it?

Just take the money from the Karakaze fund, before they spend any of it.

(Not trying to tell you what to do, just giving you my thoughts. )
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:34 PM
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I could always give it back to TrueHeaT and take the 59k out of the Karakaze funds.

But I like the idea of a shrine and keeping Sarma as the rarest bomy better.
how are bomies rarer than one another..
there is one of each
and they all have the same rarity
its what people are willing to pay
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:37 PM
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Why can't Torankusu have it?

Just take the money from the Karakaze fund, before they spend any of it.

(Not trying to tell you what to do, just giving you my thoughts. )
Because Torankusu is evil. ;(
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how are bomies rarer than one another..
there is one of each
and they all have the same rarity
its what people are willing to pay
Sarma's the only bomy without a recolor.
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:45 PM
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Why can't Torankusu have it?
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:47 PM
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Because Torankusu is evil. ;(
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He is the only one who thinks this name is offensive, and Penga is just a slang word in Lithuanian, not a "real" word x_X
The slang words are the most offensive of all. Almost every swear word is slang - I wouldn't consider s**t or f**k to be "real" words.

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Also, many people complained to him about SS and SD, and I mean MANY, but he didn't do anything, but when something disturbs only him he deletes it.
Better than him not deleting anything at all. What did SS and SD stand for?

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He was rude to me and to the other people who pmed him about those guilds, and to many others as well, just read the pm history I posted.
No ruder than was warranted. I and many others would probably have done worse.

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I'm sure Kamuii would.
I'm not Tiki's superior, though. Tiki's actually higher than me, he's global and I'm not.
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:54 PM
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Because Torankusu is evil. ;(
Oh, I didn't see that message.

Okay, he is evil.
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I'm not Tiki's superior, though. Tiki's actually higher than me, he's global and I'm not.
Darnit, good point. Well, Nemesis would probably be contactable.
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Old 07-11-2002, 03:59 PM
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nem usually responds when he's on graal
usually on npulse
He's also on ICQ.
Although he is in away status 98% of the time.
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Old 07-11-2002, 04:02 PM
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The slang words are the most offensive of all. Almost every swear word is slang - I wouldn't consider s**t or f**k to be "real" words.

However it's offensive only to him, not to anyone alse.

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Better than him not deleting anything at all. What did SS and SD stand for?.
The SS was the head organization of the ****s, SD was a department in the SS.

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No ruder than was warranted. I and many others would probably have done worse..
Actually I never seen an admin that was rude like him \=

'Tiki (Guild Admin) (5/15/2002 3:48:41 PM):
get over it
Spurx Vengeance (5/15/2002 3:47:54 PM):
ss and sd r offincive names and should be deleted

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hey
why was Penga deleted?

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random reasons

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=| tell me the reason please

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because i dont like the way you chew your food

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.. tell me

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wait wait, i think i got this one
"sklfhlgDsKgh"

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Old 07-11-2002, 04:02 PM
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i used to talk to him on ICQ and yea he has away messages alot
but he also has aim
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Darnit, good point. Well, Nemesis would probably be contactable.

only person you can contact. tiki won't deal with me :/
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only person you can contact. tiki won't deal with me :/
Why does he get the right to choose? =\
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Old 07-11-2002, 04:49 PM
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he shouldn't be able to
alkaren is his superior
he has to listen to him whether he likes it or not
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Why does he get the right to choose? =\

You pick and choose your battles. Some things are just not worth it.
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You pick and choose your battles. Some things are just not worth it.
So it actually gives him to right to act like that..
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So it actually gives him to right to act like that..

No it doesn't, but I am not going to force him to report to me directly. He reports to nemesis, whihc means he is reporting to one of us, so I'm not going to battle with him over it.
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However it's offensive only to him, not to anyone alse.
Him, and the population of Lithuania. Again, I make the point that you ignored. Do Lithuanians deserve less protection than Americans?

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The SS was the head organization of the ****s, SD was a department in the SS.
Well then they should've been deleted. But that situation is completely irrelevant to this one and should be handled separately.

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Actually I never seen an admin that was rude like him \=
Those weren't rude as much as they were dismissive. What was your relation to this guild?
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Him, and the population of Lithuania. Again, I make the point that you ignored. Do Lithuanians deserve less protection than Americans?
No, but no one alse complained.


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Well then they should've been deleted. But that situation is completely irrelevant to this one and should be handled separately.]
Well he deleted a guild he dislikes although no one complain, and he wouldn't delete guilds that many complained about.

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Those weren't rude as much as they were dismissive. What was your relation to this guild?
I created the guild x_X
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No, but no one alse complained.
If someone makes a guild called f**k, he should wait for someone to complain before deleting it? If someone makes one called "giant wangs" in English, he should wait for someone to complain before deleting it?

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Well he deleted a guild he dislikes although no one complain, and he wouldn't delete guilds that many complained about.
Still, separate issues. If you wanna talk about whether or not he was right to let SS and SD go then go ahead, but it's not part of this debate.

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Then perhaps he suspects that you named the guild as such with full knowledge that it was offensive. If that were the case then his rudeness would be fully warranted.
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If someone makes a guild called f**k, he should wait for someone to complain before deleting it? If someone makes one called "giant wangs" in English, he should wait for someone to complain before deleting it?
It wasn't in english, he is the only one who thought it is offensive, no one alse complain, and the guild existed for months!

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Still, separate issues. If you wanna talk about whether or not he was right to let SS and SD go then go ahead, but it's not part of this debate.
Not separate issues. He should be doing his job for the other players, not for himself.


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Sure, he suspected that I know Lithuanian x_X, he was rude to other people as well, so this is not the reason.
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Old 07-12-2002, 11:38 AM
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I totaly agree with you, though, I think Tiki handled this a bit... wrong, he had every right to deleat the guild.
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It wasn't in english, he is the only one who thought it is offensive, no one alse complain, and the guild existed for months!
You're not listening, or you don't understand. It wasn't in English. So? It would've been offensive to Lithuanians. Are you saying that Lithuanians don't deserve the same protection from offense as Americans?

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Not separate issues. He should be doing his job for the other players, not for himself.
They're separate incidents so they're separate issues. The two aren't directly related.

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Sure, he suspected that I know Lithuanian x_X, he was rude to other people as well, so this is not the reason.
Other people in the guild, who would've also known what the guild means?
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You're not listening, or you don't understand. It wasn't in English. So? It would've been offensive to Lithuanians. Are you saying that Lithuanians don't deserve the same protection from offense as Americans?
No, but he seems to be the only one x_X, so it's harming only one person. It shouldn't be hard to find an offensive meaning to half of the guilds in other languages that I doubt anyone knows =\

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Not directly, but I'm talking about the way Tiki handles the guilds =\

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Hardy anyone knows this language in Graal (maybe no one but Tiki actually), so no =\
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No, but he seems to be the only one x_X, so it's harming only one person. It shouldn't be hard to find an offensive meaning to half of the guilds in other languages that I doubt anyone use =\
It doesn't matter how many people use it. We don't want Graal to be offensive to anybody, no matter how much of a minority.

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Hardy anyone knows this language in Graal (maybe no one but Tiki actually), so no =\
He's free to judge otherwise. In any case, that level of rudeness isn't particularly excessive. I could name higher staff who'd do worse.
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It doesn't matter how many people use it. We don't want Graal to be offensive to anybody, no matter how much of a minority.
So nearly half of the guilds should be deleted for offensive meanings in other languages? And others that offend only a few people?

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