Tournament of Scripters

[AlexH]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I don't think Stefan is entering, and even if he was then it wouldn't make it impossible for everyone else. Stefan's good but he's not a god, and there are scripters who would stand a chance against him. I'm not saying they'd be likely to beat him, but they'd have a chance.

i agree completly but stefan would always have the edge for 3 reasons
1) he made the commands so hes gonna know their full capability
2) he will always have that lil list of secret commands
3) if he cant do something with the commands he has he can create a new command and add it to his secret commands list

[Slaktmaster]

Stefan cán put "HAHAHAHAH I WON, SORRY I OWNED" in the events announcement on the graal2001 page if his bots wins because he knows how.

[SSRobgeta]

I LIKE EGGS!!!

[entravial]

~AlphaFlame~

Screw battle bots, make a correct pathfinding script that works even if walls are in the way, and NOT going over any walls. Mwaha.

[BocoC]

I had an idea on how to do that. Involved walking toward the player, finding a wall, then doing ::special stuff:: to get around it.

[ownerofbabylon]

im going to win this contest Stefan and Kai and Kyle better watch there backs

[Warcaptain]

Originally posted by toad1413
Heh. I can't script for crap. Maybe I should start a level tournament.

I can teach you if you want toad.

[SagaTCN]

Originally posted by entravial
~AlphaFlame~

Screw battle bots, make a correct pathfinding script that works even if walls are in the way, and NOT going over any walls. Mwaha.

Hmm... I tried that before.
It's been a while.

I learned some more.

Maybe I'll try again sometime.

[Krakken_2001]

I am gonna enter. I probably won't win or even get in the top 3 but at least I will know I tried my best!

[toad1413]

Originally posted by Warcaptain


I can teach you if you want toad.

Nah. That's ok. I can actually script some stuff, I'm not a complete ******* at scripting. I just kinda stipped learning gscript. Probably because it was getting confusing because I'm learning Visual Basic as well. Although, VB isreally easy...

[chime]

but if stefan entered he would win there are alot of hiddn scripts alot of people dont know about and he does. Hidden commands and some problems that has some advantages.

[Merlin_2001]

I don't know how to script, but I'd like to find out.

[Merlin]

Originally posted by Merlin_2001
I don't know how to script, but I'd like to find out.

if (playerenters) {
say2 Hi guy #i,hammer.gif,30,30;
}

OHMY

[Slaktmaster]

Whee.

[Krakken_2001]

Originally posted by Merlin_2001
I don't know how to script, but I'd like to find out.

I could teach you how. If you want me to!

[chime]

and stefan could just make new scripts and stuff and noone would know. And yes there are scripts that all dont know because if everyone knew everything there would be no questions

[grim_squeaker_x]

Originally posted by chime
and stefan could just make new scripts and stuff and noone would know. And yes there are scripts that all dont know because if everyone knew everything there would be no questions

Actually most people are ignorant about scripting, there are a few undocumented commands in Graal, but mostly those were put in the newfeatures text file, the fwe others are either useless or too hard for most people to use.

[Krakken_2001]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Oh god... You're one of those people who thinks scripting is just about selecting the right precreated script from a list, aren't you? Please leave and do not return until you know what scripting is.

Hahahahahahahaha!

[chime]

well actually that pretty much is what scripting is. finding what you wnt and using what it out to do it .You are not making anything new at all. Make a game then tell people they cant script. if your soo good at scripting on graal you probaly wasted alot of your time and its not a big thing to be proud of everyone can script.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by chime
well actually that pretty much is what scripting is. finding what you wnt and using what it out to do it .You are not making anything new at all. Make a game then tell people they cant script. if your soo good at scripting on graal you probaly wasted alot of your time and its not a big thing to be proud of everyone can script.

Um, you seemed to be mixed up, friend. Scripting is a synonym(sp?) in Graal for programming. You have commands that you put in a logic sequence to perform actions or to control events.

There are no pre-made scripts, aside from the baddies and character npcs that do things such as bomys, custom hp/mp meters, day/night, etc.

[AlexH]

scripting is just like programming
if you dont have a command you script the command not ask stefan to make it
for example if you want an onsnow command script it using tile check then you can use it in other scripts

[Lycia]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I don't think Stefan is entering, and even if he was then it wouldn't make it impossible for everyone else. Stefan's good but he's not a god, and there are scripters who would stand a chance against him. I'm not saying they'd be likely to beat him, but they'd have a chance.

Uh, Kaimetsu. Normally, I agree with you with regards to several opinions, however, this one I'm gonna have to disagree.

Stefan made up GScript. He knows it 100%. He understands it, so for you to say that he's not a god, is a bit premature. Gods create things. Stefan created GScript. Stefan is the God of NPC Scripting.

[Krakken_2001]

Originally posted by Lycia



Uh, Kaimetsu. Normally, I agree with you with regards to several opinions, however, this one I'm gonna have to disagree.

Stefan made up GScript. He knows it 100%. He understands it, so for you to say that he's not a god, is a bit premature. Gods create things. Stefan created GScript. Stefan is the God of NPC Scripting.

Hey, that's a good argument. On the other hand, you could say anyone is a God. If I can create a script IN GScript, of my own, would that not make me a Script God?

[Lycia]

Originally posted by Merlin_2001
I don't know how to script, but I'd like to find out.

I'm learning scripting via Professor Kaimetsu. It's really leet.

Here's my very first script:

NPC Code:

---

//-------------------------------------------

// NPC made by Lycia

//-------------------------------------------

if (playerenters) {

   toweapons Landmine;

}

if (weaponfired) {

  showimg 1,landminenpc.gif,playerx,playery;

    changeimgvis 1,0;

      this.minex=playerx;

      this.miney=playery;

           timeout=0.05

    }

 if(timeout){

    timeout=0.05;

          for(i=1;i!=playerscount;i++) {

      this.xdistance = players[i].x - this.minex;

      this.ydistance = players[i].y - this.miney;

   this.totaldistance = ( this.xdistance^2 + this.ydistance^2 ) ^ 0.5;

       if (this.totaldistance<3) {

         hideimg 1;

       timeout=0;

            putexplosion 2,this.minex,this.miney;

    }

  }

}

---

w00t.

[JeffTL]

Nice landmine, Lycia, a lot like the one on Classic...better, but with some of the same problems (not putnpc, which has its advantages). but I guess I'll post mine...could be more efficient, but it blows up every time and doesn't follow the player around, unlike the current one.

NPC Code:

---

// NPC made by Jeff, 8.21.2001

// The code for this firemine is entirely original,

// save for a few of the blasts from the

// old Starcon/Lord Chimp version

// The reason it is now just the Fire Mine and not

// the STARCON FireMine is that the code really isn't

// any creation of STARCON's, being rewritten

// as it is.  Why credit a guy who did little towards this?

// This takes up seven bombs instead of five, as it uses

// more explosions, and actually WORKS ALL THE TIME!



//new fire mine, laying section

if (playertouchsme) {

  set jeffmine;

  toweapons Fire Mine;

}



if(weaponfired  && playerbombs >=7){

  playerbombs -= 7;

  putnpc starconexplo.mng,jeffmine.txt,x,y;

}

if(created){

  timeout=1;

}

if(timeout){

  message Fire Mine;

}

---

NPC Code:

---

// Operating part of the new fire mine system.

if (created){

// Set safe getaway time for the setter, and display it to help.

timeout=5;

timershow;

}

if (timeout){

// after the five secs are up

if ((abs(playerx-x)<=5) || (abs(x-playerx)<=5)){

// absolute value of one x and one Y difference must be less than or equal to five.

// Larger range than the old one.  This is to ensure that it sets off correctly.

if ((abs(playery-y)<=5) || (abs(y-playery)<=5)){

// to establish a square, as opposed to a semisquare rectangle



// explodes, destroys itself in the process 

    putexplosion 5, x, y;

    putexplosion 4, x+1, y;

    putexplosion 4, x, y+1;

    putexplosion 4, x+1, y+1;

    putexplosion 4, x, y-1;

    putexplosion 4, x-1, y;

    putexplosion 4, x-1, y-1;

    putexplosion 3, x+2, y+2;

    putexplosion 3, x-2, y-2;

    putexplosion 3, x+2, y-2;

    putexplosion 3, x-2, y+2;

    putexplosion 2, x+3, y+3;

    putexplosion 2, x-3, y-3;

    putexplosion 2, x+3, y-3;

    putexplosion 2, x-3, y+3;

    destroy;

// larger explosion than the old Fire Mine, so as to almost always damage the poor sod who steps too close.

}

}

// sets timeout to minimum amount to check for triggering

timeout=.05;

// the shown timer will disappear by itself as part of the timeout.

}

---

[General]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Soon I'll teach you the best way to indent. It makes your code easier for you and others to read.

\

dammit kai! make her learn herself, like you and I did!

[T-Squad]

Originally posted by Lycia



Uh, Kaimetsu. Normally, I agree with you with regards to several opinions, however, this one I'm gonna have to disagree.

Stefan made up GScript. He knows it 100%. He understands it, so for you to say that he's not a god, is a bit premature. Gods create things. Stefan created GScript. Stefan is the God of NPC Scripting.

Umm not exactly....

He is perfect. Knows everything...Stefan may have created something, yes, but does he know everything? Is he perfect in the area of graal? No.

[BocoC]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Soon I'll teach you the best way to indent. It makes your code easier for you and others to read.

I have always done it like Stefan does it, I think... 2 spaces per block. The only time I don't put 2 spaces in any programming language is Visual Basic. I TAB it =P

[SagaTCN]

Is there something wrong with the Style button? haha.

[Lycia]

Originally posted by General
\

dammit kai! make her learn herself, like you and I did!

[Krakken_2001]

Originally posted by Lycia
if (this.totaldistance <3 ) {

Awww, I think there may be an attraction between Kai and Lycia

[Krakken_2001]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Haha, well spotted. I never noticed that; 3 was just an arbitrary value we used.

Heheheh

[JeffTL]

Stefan IS the best graal scripter out there...not only does he know the language in and out, but if there's a command he wants but doesn't have, he can always decide it's time for a new version of Graal and try to make the command.

[Merlin]

Originally posted by JeffTL
Stefan IS the best graal scripter out there...not only does he know the language in and out, but if there's a command he wants but doesn't have, he can always decide it's time for a new version of Graal and try to make the command.

no that's un-true. stefan made graal but is not the best pker, stefan made graal and he is also not the best level tiler.

[JeffTL]

Somebody missed the cluebus. I said scripter. The best tiler is Tyhm or Zero 33 or someone like that, and the best PKer is probably Lord Chimp. But Stefan rules the scripting world, from what I've seen. Tell me, Merlin, ONE SCRIPTER better than Stefan. Is it Kyle? Or maybe Tyhm? Antago? Tell me.



addition:


PKing and tiling are different disciplines from scripting...PKing skill consists of bandwidth and dexterity, tiling requires skill in sticking sixteen-pixel squares together to create play areas, and scripting is a form of programming, requiring a logical mind and knowledge of the language.

[JeffTL]

Kaimetsu, I put Antago there as just another name, not specifically referring to Brian Bryant or whatever his name was but to J. Public Scripter. I could just have easily said Unixmad, Waar, Lycia, or Lord Chimp. But Antago came to mind.

[Merlin]

so you were just saying random crap.

[Merlin]

Originally posted by JeffTL
Somebody missed the cluebus. I said scripter. The best tiler is Tyhm or Zero 33 or someone like that, and the best PKer is probably Lord Chimp. But Stefan rules the scripting world, from what I've seen. Tell me, Merlin, ONE SCRIPTER better than Stefan. Is it Kyle? Or maybe Tyhm? Antago? Tell me.



addition:


PKing and tiling are different disciplines from scripting...PKing skill consists of bandwidth and dexterity, tiling requires skill in sticking sixteen-pixel squares together to create play areas, and scripting is a form of programming, requiring a logical mind and knowledge of the language.

with scripting there are so many aspects you can not just say "____is the best because he made this cool NPC!" one person could be better then another in one field and that same person horrible in another.

[JeffTL]

My manure was not random. Kyle wrote the bomy and bankcard, and Tyhm's done so many things I've lost count...if anyone rivals Stefan as a good all-around scripter, it's one of them. But I mean it...tell me someone who is generally better than Stefan.

[nyghtGT]

Why is it that idiots always think that Antago can/could script? If your knowledge of scripters is so poor that you hold him as exemplary then you are clearly in no position to make judgements.

What does exemplary mean ?