New Era Management - Page 2

dudeluve2 · #41 08-14-2010, 06:32 PM

I logged on at 6 am this morning to see GC as Manager and Wil Soul as GBA...so what did I miss?

jkldogg · #42 08-14-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dudeluve2

I logged on at 6 am this morning to see GC as Manager and Wil Soul as GBA...so what did I miss?

everyone got fired (again) and kinetaro is manager.

Crono · #43 08-14-2010, 06:38 PM

manager hot potato

Seeya · #44 08-14-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk

You are a close friend of his, it's obvious your opinion of his management is going to be great..

do you realize how hypocritical that is? you're Geo's friend from the beginning.

Just because of my ties with Chris, it doesn't change the fact everything he's done equals out to more than a free few EC. He enhanced the game for some players, made them enjoy the game a lot more for a few moments. It's not like it mattered to him if his gang was winning, be serious.

dudeluve2 · #45 08-14-2010, 06:47 PM

Wait, how many account has Venom_Fish (Wil Soul) took control of?

Nataxo · #46 08-14-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dudeluve2

Wait, how many account has Venom_Fish (Wil Soul) took control of?

wat

fowlplay4 · #47 08-14-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya

Just because of my ties with Chris, it doesn't change the fact everything he's done equals out to more than a free few EC.

If a recent post about him editing logs, and allowing others to USD and covering it up are true then it is definitely a lot more than a 'few EC'.

hunterhunk · #48 08-14-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya

do you realize how hypocritical that is? you're Geo's friend from the beginning.

Just because of my ties with Chris, it doesn't change the fact everything he's done equals out to more than a free few EC. He enhanced the game for some players, made them enjoy the game a lot more for a few moments. It's not like it mattered to him if his gang was winning, be serious.

Not exactly, Geo never abused...... Geo got fired because of an Anti-graal promise.... Which is in a person's best interest, not the server's.

Chris abused..... too much. He did do work for era, but still you weren't one of the players he constantly would use his power on. All most the players really ask for is fair game, but he never gave us that.

jkldogg · #49 08-14-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk

Not exactly, Geo never abused...... Geo got fired because of an Anti-graal promise.... Which is in a person's best interest, not the server's.

What's this "Anti-graal promise" you speak of?

salesman · #50 08-14-2010, 06:55 PM

I really hope kinetaro's acquired some motivation, else you just traded someone who was providing frequent updates for the guy with the highest staff time to not doing anything ratio.

FantasyX · #51 08-14-2010, 06:58 PM

So the PWA took a poor decision (firing Vimes when he was going to quit that day regardless) and fixed it with another poor decision (firing the new manager for his choice of staff when he sent them a list of his staff team before being hired, and then not consulting him before pretty much telling him he's done).

Excellent.

Regardless, best of luck Kinetaro. :]

jkldogg · #52 08-14-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FantasyX

So the PWA took a poor decision (firing Vimes when he was going to quit that day regardless) and fixed it with another poor decision (firing the new manager for his choice of staff when he sent them a list of his staff team before being hired, and then not consulting him before pretty much telling him he's done).

Excellent.

Regardless, best of luck Kinetaro. :]

nicely put

Seeya · #53 08-14-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FantasyX

and then not consulting him before pretty much telling him he's done).

sounds familiar

LordSquirt · #54 08-14-2010, 07:05 PM

Isn't GC still staff there? Therefore, I don't get what's all the talk about, GC can still contribute to the server and do whatever he planned on doing.

Snakeandy7 · #55 08-14-2010, 07:11 PM

I don't get it?

Morgrim hired TheJames because Kinetaro said he could be hired. Now, Kinetaro has hired Elk (He's great, but doesn't Kinetaro do GFX anyway?As much as I like you Elk- you don't do much work apparantly)

I don't mind Morgrims choices, they make sense. Who else would run gangs other than Era's top player? (Will) Even if Morgrim is fired, why is Will fired? and not XTC

Give Era back to Salesman- he'd be amazing at it and I'm sure he's up for it.

salesman · #56 08-14-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeandy7

Give Era back to Salesman

LordSquirt · #57 08-14-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeandy7

I don't get it?

Morgrim hired TheJames because Kinetaro said he could be hired. Now, Kinetaro has hired Elk (He's great, but doesn't Kinetaro do GFX anyway?As much as I like you Elk- you don't do much work apparantly)

I don't mind Morgrims choices, they make sense. Who else would run gangs other than Era's top player? (Will) Even if Morgrim is fired, why is Will fired? and not XTC

Give Era back to Salesman- he'd be amazing at it and I'm sure he's up for it.

yes, bring us back salesman!!!!

Snakeandy7 · #58 08-14-2010, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman

Now isn't the time for jokes!!!

Crow · #59 08-14-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeandy7

Now isn't the time for jokes!!!

He obviously doesn't want to be Manager again

I wouldn't mind though.

cbk1994 · #60 08-14-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenLies0

Uh oh! Looks like to me Chris Vimes wanted Geo to have a taste of getting knocked off the big time like he did when he was gone. You sly devil you.

I didn't have anything to do with this. Despite the fact that GC didn't hire any staff who weren't on the blacklist, I hesitantly supported him (he had very low self confidence and didn't seem to think he'd be able to do well as manager) and I wouldn't have wanted to see him fired. He was one of the candidates I originally considered to replace me.

xXziroXx · #61 08-14-2010, 07:25 PM

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He obviously doesn't want to be Manager again

I wouldn't mind though.

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What about me? Sure, I wasn't Manager. But hell, did I abuse when I was working on Era.

Yeah I don't think so Tim.

Supaman771 · #62 08-14-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

GC didn't hire any staff who weren't on the blacklist

Why am I blacklisted?

Nataxo · #63 08-14-2010, 07:28 PM

GC is Guns admin/PR atm.

jkldogg · #64 08-14-2010, 07:30 PM

Who's on the blacklist? I'm probably there cuz chris player hated on me =p

papajchris · #65 08-14-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya

do you realize how hypocritical that is? you're Geo's friend from the beginning.

Just because of my ties with Chris, it doesn't change the fact everything he's done equals out to more than a free few EC. He enhanced the game for some players, made them enjoy the game a lot more for a few moments. It's not like it mattered to him if his gang was winning, be serious.

He spawned millions of dollars and like i said, numerous weapons.

How much EC is millions of dollars and items again? Don't act innocent Seeya, I have no doubt you got items one way or another illegally.

Until all those involved in spawning are held accountable, i refuse to work for this management.

Tigairius · #66 08-14-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie9011

Everything could of been avoided if the globals simply sat down and talked about me about all this, but instead they decide to fire me in my sleep in less of a days worth of being Manager. I could of made a change in my management list even though I thought it was approved since I sent it prior to me getting Manager... I feel cheated, but again I wish Kinetaro the best though I don't think you are active or knowledgeable enough to run Era.

I spoke to Geovanni before making any final decisions.

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk

You don't even give someone a chance because OMG WIL SOUL was hired. Really? Are we going to keep someone from being staff because he has a big ego?

Also, you couldn't even talk to Geo? You just took action without even talking to him? This is ****ing ridiculous.

You give Wil Soul too much credit. Wil Soul wasn't the reason why this happened. The fact of the matter is that basically the entire staff team consisted of abusers, hackers, and scammers. If it was only Wil Soul, then this wouldn't have happened. The fact of the matter is that it wasn't just Wil Soul, it was that, mixed in with the fact that several other poor choices were made to be hired. The entire global administration agreed that all of these choices were poor and were not in the best interest of Era.

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So you fired a manager, and blacklisted an entire qualified staff roster because you couldn't allow Wil to be staff (Won't go into detail as to why).

Lol @ Anti-Graal reasons. Covering up by claiming staff with absolutely no rights were abusive. And pulling the favoritism card at GC when he didn't even hire half the people.

We removed Morgrim for hiring several abusive friends who, almost all of which, had been globally banned in the past for doing such things as deleting content off of era and/or uploading item spawners or scamming.

That is simply a risk I don't believe any of us (the PWA) are willing to take.

There is really no argument that justifies hiring the amount of people with those kinds of recent histories, period.
In the end, I know all of Geovanni's friends are going to be upset and I know that any decision that is made cannot make everyone happy.

salesman · #67 08-14-2010, 08:06 PM

To put things into perspective...

PWAs threatened to remove me when I hired Sage. Just Sage. Imagine what they were thinking when they saw Sage and 5 other people who have done much worse than him.

hunterhunk · #68 08-14-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

I spoke to Geovanni before making any final decisions.

You give Wil Soul too much credit. Wil Soul wasn't the reason why this happened. The fact of the matter is that basically the entire staff team consisted of abusers, hackers, and scammers. If it was only Wil Soul, then this wouldn't have happened. The fact of the matter is that it wasn't just Wil Soul, it was that, mixed in with the fact that several other poor choices were made to be hired.

I fired Morgrim for hiring his abusive friends who, almost all of which, had been globally banned in the past for doing such things as deleting content off of era and/or uploading item spawners.

That is simply a risk I don't believe any of us (the PWA) are willing to take.

Well that's not the full truth. The PWA got a staff roster from Geo, and they didn't have a problem with it. You know you could have spoken to Geo personally before acting on your own accord (all you told him was that he was fired). Also, Wil Soul doesn't have an abusive history as a staff member, it's just your own personal dislike of him which is why he is "blacklisted" from the staff team.... That and some stupid promise you made to someone.

Really good way to handle a situation as a PWA. I thought the PWA was much better than that.

jkldogg · #69 08-14-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman

To put things into perspective...

PWAs threatened to remove me when I hired Sage. Just Sage. Imagine what they were thinking when they saw Sage and 5 other people who have done much worse than him.

haha

Tigairius · #70 08-14-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk

Well that's not the full truth. The PWA got a staff roster from Geo, and they didn't have a problem with it. You know you could have spoken to Geo personally before acting on your own accord (all you told him was that he was fired). Also, Wil Soul doesn't have an abusive history as a staff member, it's just your own personal dislike of him which is why he is "blacklisted" from the staff team.... That and some stupid promise you made to someone.

Really good way to handle a situation as a PWA. I thought the PWA was much better than that.

I never received such a roster. TSAdmin also says he received no such roster. Morgrim told me that Wil Soul sent TSAdmin the roster, and TSAdmin most likely didn't think it was real due to the fact that Morgrim didn't send it to him. So really, it is the "full truth." You're just trying to make it out to be more than it really is.

Gothika · #71 08-14-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk

Well that's not the full truth. The PWA got a staff roster from Geo, and they didn't have a problem with it.

How would you know for sure? Were you looking over his shoulder when he done it?

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Also, Wil Soul doesn't have an abusive history as a staff member, it's just your own personal dislike of him which is why he is "blacklisted" from the staff team.... That and some stupid promise you made to someone...

Read.. "You give Wil Soul too much credit. Wil Soul wasn't the reason why this happened."

hunterhunk · #72 08-14-2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

I never received such a roster. TSAdmin also says he received no such roster. Morgrim told me that Wil Soul sent TSAdmin the roster, and TSAdmin most likely didn't think it was real due to the fact that Morgrim didn't send it to him. So really, it is the "full truth." You're just trying to make it out to be more than it really is.

You're avoiding the direct question here, rather than targeting Wil as an individual, you amassed him in a class not of his own. Those players and their crimes are nothing related to Wil Soul. You allowed every Admin to remain RC, except for him, why? He has absolutely no history of any abuse as an Administrator or any abuse as a player. When itemspawners were prevelant, he refused to partake in anything, even though you so gracefully jumped the gun to assume that he was and banned him. He has no abusive history, no corruption, nothing. So tell me this Tig, why is your personal priority to "blacklist" him? We all saw the comments, "Tig's Promise".

cbk1994 · #73 08-14-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterhunk

"Tig's Promise".

"Chris' Promise" is a much better read.

Sage_Shadowbane · #74 08-14-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman

To put things into perspective...

PWAs threatened to remove me when I hired Sage. Just Sage. Imagine what they were thinking when they saw Sage and 5 other people who have done much worse than him.

Whoa, huh.. ? Why has my name been brought up multiple times in this thread, yet I haven't worked on Era for at least a 5-6 months?? o.O

salesman · #75 08-14-2010, 09:35 PM

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Whoa, huh.. ? Why has my name been brought up multiple times in this thread, yet I haven't worked on Era for at least a 5-6 months?? o.O

Someone said he hired you, dunno.

Sage_Shadowbane · #76 08-14-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman

Someone said he hired you, dunno.

Who hired me?? o.O Kinetaro?

Hiro · #77 08-14-2010, 09:45 PM

give me era management, i'll make all you mother****ers happy

Crow · #78 08-14-2010, 10:15 PM

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Yeah I don't think so Tim.

You got me wrong, I guess. I wouldn't mind Sales to step up. Not me. I don't want to see behind the scenes stuff on Era ever again. One. F*cking. Mess.

Matt · #79 08-14-2010, 10:29 PM

It annoys me seeing people fired without notification, i mean geez. It happens WAY to often.

Best of luck to Era and it's new management.

FrozenLies0 · #80 08-14-2010, 11:48 PM

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It annoys me seeing people fired without notification, i mean geez. It happens WAY to often.

Best of luck to Era and it's new management.

Agreed.

Also, if it would have just been Wil that was hired for GBA why wasn't he allowed to stay and you just removed or discuss why Geo shouldn't have hired so and so blablabla?
In my opinion, this whole thing is just screwed the #*$#*$& up.

On PWA and on player side.