Armageddon

[Shards-Of-Fate]

Its not the amount of levels so much as the quality and use. Big playerworlds are meant to promote exploring. The sad part though is that they aren't built for exploring. Nothing too adventurous about most gmaps full of trees and such. And yes, players will clump together, but thats the glory of your main town. Its why you spent so long on it.

So here's what I'm getting at. When you spend time on your levels, make it because its been scaled to that. That your world is more than just an island. That it took the player three to five minutes to get from town to town because he hasn't gotten a horse yet. Or hasn't established some kind of inter-city travel.

And as always, Make little areas where people can sit. All my fondest memories of NPulse are on the little tables next to that cave. Babylon's main area. Valikorlia's main cities.

So my suggestion for Armageddon, Big gmaps are fabulous. But how about section off an area you can complete in a foreseeable time. Make some...event, so that you can rope off the exits. Like a carnival or maybe some kind of police lock-down. And develop quality instead of rushed quantity. Really hope for good things on Armageddon.

[sssssssssss]

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

I remember Hiro posted this before, but won't bother to look for it.

Why do you need such a big GMAP? If the server is successful it will have maybe like 50-60 players. In my opinion it's better if all the players are close to one another instead of all spread out. I don't get why you need such a high amount of levels to make a server.

Theres a good reason, since playerhouses, towns, quests, exploration, baddies, mounts, ships, guild houses, and probably more will be on that one gmap.

Originally Posted by Hiro

decus is notorious for never taking any suggestions on his levels into consideration

Thats actually not true, he just has what he wants to do in mind before he starts.

Originally Posted by Shards-Of-Fate

Its not the amount of levels so much as the quality and use. Big playerworlds are meant to promote exploring. The sad part though is that they aren't built for exploring. Nothing too adventurous about most gmaps full of trees and such. And yes, players will clump together, but thats the glory of your main town. Its why you spent so long on it.

So here's what I'm getting at. When you spend time on your levels, make it because its been scaled to that. That your world is more than just an island. That it took the player three to five minutes to get from town to town because he hasn't gotten a horse yet. Or hasn't established some kind of inter-city travel.

And as always, Make little areas where people can sit. All my fondest memories of NPulse are on the little tables next to that cave. Babylon's main area. Valikorlia's main cities.

So my suggestion for Armageddon, Big gmaps are fabulous. But how about section off an area you can complete in a foreseeable time. Make some...event, so that you can rope off the exits. Like a carnival or maybe some kind of police lock-down. And develop quality instead of rushed quantity. Really hope for good things on Armageddon.

^ Best compliment to go along with what we are doing in a general sense.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by sssssssssss

Thats actually not true, he just has what he wants to do in mind before he starts.

and he won't change his mind about it, hence my comment

[Shards-Of-Fate]

Nah man, thats why my project is still a solo project, I have an idea and I don't want to change it :3. He's got the vision.

[sssssssssss]

Systems: 65%
Weapons: 45%
Levels: 1%
GFX: 50%
Ganis: 40%
Other (event prizes,quests,ect):1%

I've been redoing ALL the ganis, so they look correct and smoother. What we have has been redone now, and we're moving along to finish up the systems. I think we might have more of the systems % done than I put, but have to go through them and getting tired. I know a lot of the 35% thats not finished is because many systems just are only halfway done, or dont work completely correct. Shouldn't take long to finish them all.

Decus has also been working on the starter town and tileset for the server. A starter town should at least have a basic look and be accessible by next week. Will post screenshots and announce when its up.

[sssssssssss]

Also...the starter town will appeal, hopefully, to rp players and classic alike. I can see how classic players make not like it, but behold, the original town will still be there, and the "idea" of using those classic tiles will not be forgotten. The overworld will include ideas that attract both rp and classic players, as we must compete for both. Expect greatness.

Hiro, get p2p, we need u. Seriously.

[xAndrewx]

i am looking veeeeeeeeeeeeeery forward to this!!!

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by sssssssssss

Also...the starter town will appeal, hopefully, to rp players and classic alike. I can see how classic players make not like it, but behold, the original town will still be there, and the "idea" of using those classic tiles will not be forgotten. The overworld will include ideas that attract both rp and classic players, as we must compete for both. Expect greatness.

Hiro, get p2p, we need u. Seriously.

well i'm not broke anymore, but i won't be back home for another couple of weeks, somewhere around august 15th or so (oh god i have to go to west point this week ;__; )

if you get on AIM we can at least talk some things out

[Decus_Arillias]

so for the people who wonder, this is me few weeks ago before i proposed to my gf at Burger Refuge. Right after she said yes.

[sssssssssss]

Originally Posted by Hiro

well i'm not broke anymore, but i won't be back home for another couple of weeks, somewhere around august 15th or so (oh god i have to go to west point this week ;__; )

if you get on AIM we can at least talk some things out

I dont remember the pass and too lazy to go get it b/c I HATE IM stuff. Use forum pms ok or no?

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Decus_Arillias

so for the people who wonder, this is me few weeks ago before i proposed to my gf at Burger Refuge. Right after she said yes.

You must have loved that burger.

[Decus_Arillias]

yea i did, the burger said "yes" and i went at it.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Decus_Arillias

yea i did, the burger said "yes" and i went at it.

Must have been messy

[sssssssssss]

Systems: 68%
Weapons: 45%
Levels: 3%
GFX: 60%
Ganis: 70%
Other (event prizes,quests,ect):2%

Decus has been working on the starter town. Its basic layout is almost complete. I've been redoing "systems" like the inventory and such, to bring it to feel more like the server should seem to be, fit in better so to say.

Hopefully the starter town outsides will be done by next week, so people can almost have something to do again. xD

[sssssssssss]

Figure I'll go ahead and post a screenshot of our new inventory. Its not finished yet. As you can see items category is not showing up correctly right now with the images. Some of our weapons still dont have images either so you get to see a nice clock.

All weapons are spread out into different categorys. You can scroll through them if needed with the arrows. Also put the tailor inside the inventory menu as you can see.

Items will be accessible either by image or text, still havent decided yet, and would like feedback on that if no one minds to do so.

It also shows the level of your glove, shoes, and flippers, as quests will allow to get extra things added to them. Keys and bigkeys for dungeons also shown here, and there will be more key items there, just dont really have any yet.

Other extra things may be added as well, but for the most part this is it!

Edit: Please ignore the level. Its junk.

[cbk1994]

You really need to work on making all of your interfaces have a unified look. You've got elements from lots of different color schemes which all clash, as well as lots of zooming which looks awful. Your icons are also inconsistent and some have non-transparent backgrounds. I like the way it's laid out, though.

[sssssssssss]

Do you mean the wooden gui stuff that shows ap, the weapon selected, and the inventory combined? If so, one or the other will change, because they do look completely off when shown together.

Also, the inventory system is complete. We are going to change either the inventory images, the interface images, or both to fit together. We still need images for the weapons and items as well (ill be working on those).

Next on the agenda is to fix our party sys to work a bit better, add individual shops for players, and an auction house for the server. After this, I believe most systems besides player houses and guild house sys will be done. I may save those for after hosted, as I am really not good enough to do clean scripts and finish those up.

The main town is almost complete as well. We've added an new pk feature in the town called "the pit". Wait on its release to see what it does as I dont want to tell and spill the beans and someone else steal the idea like some of our other stuff!

After the main town, we are going to ensure the league sys, sparring sys, tag team spar sys, tourny sys, and series sys are complete. We'll be moving to quests after that to hopefully be ready for hosted! A few more weeks peeps!

[sssssssssss]

Systems: 75%
Weapons: 45%
Levels: 5%
GFX: 60%
Ganis: 80%
Other (event prizes,quests,ect):5%

Right now system-wise, we are working on beefing up the party system. We're going to make it easy to search and find members looking for a party, as well as adding/removing/editting leader stuff.

The main town is almost done for the basic look (no decorations, ect). I know I keep saying in a week, but really hopefully this time outsides of the town, at the least, will be done within the week, since there has been good progress lately.

The party system and spar systems should be done by the middle of next week, and then we'll be moving on to the events and its system (its gotta be finished) and the jail system. That will hopefully be done by the time the overworld is getting well on its way, so I can then move to finishing the weather scripts, a few more needed ganis on the ow, and jobs. I don't see why, after all that, that we shouldn't be ready for hosted! Another month or so and hopefully this is all done.

[sssssssssss]

News (kinda I guess):
The player bazaar/shop now works completely. Anyone who has their
shop active will have a little chest above their player. Right
click on that player (or yourself if yours is active) to see
the shop screen.
You can also set the items you want to sell by opening your
inventory (press q), selecting an item, then right click it and
select "Sell". This will prompt you to input a selling price,
then you're good to go.
The players shop also has a little "comments" section each player
can set for their own shop. If you either hit Alt+O and go to
"Shop", or right click yourself and select "Shop" you can set
this.

On top of that, I've added the ability to drop items from your
inventory. Just figured it would be essential. Anyone can pick
up the dropped item. There is also a timer before it just goes
away.

Systems: 80%
Weapons: 50%
Levels: 10%
GFX: 65%
Ganis: 80%
Other (event prizes,quests,ect):7%

[sssssssssss]

News:
Party system has now been expanded! Now you can set a flag as searching for a party, so others can find and invite you where ever you are! An icon will even show above your player so people who are around you know you are looking for a party! Alt+O will show up the main menu, then go to the party button. You can still also invite people by right clicking on them. There is also an auto-accept/deny option for parties, and an off selection for just regular invites. Select this in Alt+O in either config or the party buttons. Some things are still being worked on with the party system but its small stuff.

On top of that, we're going back to our old gmap and tileset (besdies the "issues", and houses and stuff will look a bit better). We promised a classic feel, and thats why we're going back to it. The gmap is still going to be reworked a bit, but it will have most of its old look, minus the placeholder images. Quests coming soon as well.

We are still working on the Main menu to work better than it does right now.
We are also going to start on an auction house and the jail system. Hopefully since everything I've said in here we're working on has scattered around, this will actually keep to itself this time.
After the jail and auction house, I'm going to attempt to make some guild things and our player house system (a basic one for now).

Within the next few weeks we should be ready for hosted, period (still need nat help though xD).

[Precise]

Lookin' good guys! Stepped in for a few minutes today and saw some of the new stuff. Great work, can't wait for more!

[Soala]

Armageddon is a nice server, but some of your staffs are being complete noobs to mine.

Ex: Kazuma disconnects patrick_is_here because of: Ruins Staffs are not welcome here. Especially Horrible LATs.

How cool is that?

[nullify]

What is considered a "horrible" LAT anyhow?

[Soala]

Originally Posted by nullify

What is considered a "horrible" LAT anyhow?

"horrible LAT" are words coming from the mouth of someone considering him/herself way superior, someone like Exil (Kazuma)
He probably got mad when I told him he wouldn't be hired (on Ruins) because his style didn't fit (and I didn't need any more LATs) so he's taking his revenge on my staffs on other servers. LATs shouldn't have disconnect rights in the first place IMO.

[nullify]

Yeah, some LATs are just idiots. Then again, some people in general are just like that.

[Liberated]

Originally Posted by Soala

LATs shouldn't have disconnect rights in the first place IMO.

this.

[Imperialistic]

A LAT with disconnect rights is just as stupid as the manager that set them.

[Precise]

Then again, Exil is quite possibly one of the most immature players I've seen in quite a while. Mix that with his RC and you have a deadly combination for destruction.

[nullify]

nodood i srsly best lat evr

[Deas_Voice]

This is a playerworld thread, about Armageddon, not a thread to discuss the definition of what a Good or Bad LAT is.
please get back to topic.

nice work on the server btw, lawing it

[Soala]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

This is a playerworld thread, about Armageddon, not a thread to discuss the definition of what a Good or Bad LAT is.
please get back to tropic.

nice work on the server btw, lawing it

ya, let's all get back to tropic!

[sssssssssss]

Off topic: Yeah he's gone now. Knew he was kind of a jerk, but didn't know he was doing that stuff. Apparently he did that to quite a few people too.

On topic: Armageddon is still goin well. Look fowards to about 2 more systems being done today, and hopefully an island and town complete!

[sssssssssss]

Systems: 83%
Weapons: 50%
Levels: 14%
GFX: 68%
Ganis: 83%
Other (event prizes,quests,ect):10%

So we have a jail system, technically, working right now. We still need certain images and levels, but for the most part it is done (special thanks to mallard for that). We also have our boat/ship stuff moving along well (special thanks to jerret for that), mostly just needing ganis and a little bit of modifications to some things. We also have a unique (and as far as I've seen, never before worked this way) bridge by Deas. Pretty kick ass because it actually shows serverside people walking and swimming correctly.

The levels are still being constructed around the town, and inside of the town, and is shut of for another week or so hopefully. The construction of the world is being made at this point, and progress is going very very well.

Next up will be finishing the levels/gfx/ganis for the jail system, finishing the main town, and finishing up the auction house system as well.

We will be moving on to the player house system, spiffin up the "movement" system, and hopefully start reconstructing some weapons like the boomerang and bow. Another little "duel" system will also be in the works, as well as drops and a target system for partying and item reasons. Ganis and gfx are also being made for baddies/monsters right now, and those will be roaming the world.

All in all, there hasen't been good, solid progress like this in a while. Soon enough we might actually be able to set a hosted deadline date.

[Dnegel]

Systems soon done!

[Precise]

Cyril, can't wait to see the finished product.

I've been checking in every now and then and it looks great!

[Matt]

Can't wait to see more screenies !

[maximus_asinus]

hopefully you've designed the images to actually fit a single theme.

[sssssssssss]

Originally Posted by Matt

Can't wait to see more screenies !

Soon, still working around the starter town, so once its actually done, there will be screenshots. Cant post the jail stuff, theres a reason we have a disclaimer you have to agree to when you log on for the first time.

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

hopefully you've designed the images to actually fit a single theme.

Still working on this, as we need a gfx that can do it, but it will be done, and everything (gui, inventory, and gui windows) will match.

[Decus_Arillias]

well the gui isnt matching just yet. We're happy enough atm to have our gui fully scripted and working on bigger projects on the server. I'll be pming you a link to our tileset max. So if you wanted to help still, more then welcome. As far as gfx goes, we've been working on tileset, boats, mounts, signs, pretty much everything a nice server needs. The gui ill hopefully fix tomorrow if i have the time.

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by Decus_Arillias

well the gui isnt matching just yet. We're happy enough atm to have our gui fully scripted and working on bigger projects on the server. I'll be pming you a link to our tileset max. So if you wanted to help still, more then welcome. As far as gfx goes, we've been working on tileset, boats, mounts, signs, pretty much everything a nice server needs. The gui ill hopefully fix tomorrow if i have the time.

I am, though I am going to be up front about my activity now. I work quite a bit so my activity on Graal would be around 1-2 hours a day. If that is acceptable than I'm happy to work.

Also wondering whether or not you have a custom movement system, and if it supports layer detection. I was going to work for Classic but they don't have layer support.