Your Idea to fix Eras Economy. - Page 4

Freudian_slip · #46 02-08-2009, 08:23 PM

Weapons that break would be lame as Hell in my opinion. I don't want to have to keep repairing my ****. If all guns are sold in stores and there are no rare guns, there isn't a need for **** to break. Guns shouldnt cost a **** ton of money anyway, it should be the "extras" that are costly in money because they arent a main part of the server so people won't HAVE to work their ass off for everything on the server, just the extras like buying a business/gang building/cars to travel from city to city/gang items/etc

To me, if guns arent rare I couldnt give a rats ass about money, only for ammo. Personally I don't give a rats ass about money now because all i use is a taurus. Make it so money isn't such a HUGE factor in the game and it won't be a damn problem.

kia345 · #47 02-08-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666

I already said that having the strong ones break quickly was a bad idea? Everything breaks at the same rate.

In that case, value doesn't change at all, except now you expect rich people to buy more guns and poor people to buy more guns. Now you're just making rich and poor both lower, but still with gaps between them.

Rave_J · #48 02-08-2009, 08:36 PM

Honestly why reset now ok only 1 person has 1 mil on era
the guns go cry even after the reset the guns will be value with guns ect
the guns still cost so much people say if 1 person has a mil cuz
value of guns there like a fn2k is worth 200k and a axe is worth 200k
so if some guy was like selling sten and
he gets fn2k and a axe then he's like alrite sten is worth 400k
so no matter what the economy will fail ez to make money honestly its not hard to make money and the guns will just go up now i think the item trader and party system should be remove and the speed levels cuz it mess with the pking and stabling the economy better

James · #49 02-08-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666

I thought about repairs but I think they would be a bad idea. THAT would lead to lack of trading. There shouldn't be a method of fixing the weapons, they need to get use for a GOOD amount of time then disapear completely.

I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea. I'm not saying the weapons should break all that often, I'm saying that they should break after a certain amount of use and be repairable (you could even create more jobs in that market, player owned gun repair stores?). Or they could be repairable a certain amount of times (25-30?) and then be destroyed completely and you can recycle the parts for some sort of random amount of money (25 percent of weapons retail value>x)

If the problem is the rich just keep getting richer, it would stable out the market if strong weapons had some sort of upkeep attached to them. I don't think it would hinder the value of strong weapons at all, or create less trading. It's just my input though, I've never played Era a whole lot, but I am definitely familiar with the server.

Freudian_slip · #50 02-08-2009, 09:34 PM

A reset is needed for a ton of reasons besides money. Guns can't be fully balanced/nerfed/etc at the moment because of their current prices in the market, so Masa is pretty much powerless to fix the weapons so they aren't so damn ridiculous. Other than that which is MY main reason for wanting a reset is Gangs/Businesses will be taking a whole new turn and well, after a reset no one can say "You cant take away my gang/business!" because it's a whole new Era after a reset. If we did it pre-reset (at least way before the reset), everyone would probally complain they lost their gang/business by us just taking it from them.

Personally I love resets. I don't see eevryones problem with starting over unless you own a business/gang that you actually enjoy.

Freudian_slip · #51 02-08-2009, 09:37 PM

P.S.
Breakable weapons to me would kill the server for me. i don't want to have to repair my weapon or buy a brand new one because I PK too much with it. I'm fine with buying ammo for it and having all the weapons in shops with no rare guns (more expensive guns in shops, sure...but no rares)...but why make them breakable? To "save the economy"? Bull****. Thats just going to annoy people to Hell.

Elizabeth · #52 02-08-2009, 09:49 PM

so could someone tell me what's wrong with the economy to begin with?

Crono · #53 02-08-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

so could someone tell me what's wrong with the economy to begin with?

Tons of illegally obtained money in the economy.

salesman · #54 02-08-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

Yeah, enjoying mediocrity is totally in right now

Mediocrity? Last I checked Era has one of the highest playercounts on Graal...economy screwed or not, people seem to enjoy it. Log on for 10 minutes and you'll have atleast 20 mass messages from people selling/trading items -- enjoying the economy as is.

I'd be willing to bet the playercount would drop dramatically if your plans to completely get rid of a 'realistic economy' were implemented. Some of your ideas are good, and should definitely be looked at and/or considered, but completely changing what makes Era, "Era", for a lot of people is not a good idea at all.

Elizabeth · #55 02-08-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Tons of illegally obtained money in the economy.

how was the money obtained?

salesman · #56 02-08-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

how was the money obtained?

Spawning, duping, glitching...multiple cases, too

All known bugs have been fixed though..kind of

kia345 · #57 02-08-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman

Mediocrity? Last I checked Era has one of the highest playercounts on Graal...economy screwed or not, people seem to enjoy it. Log on for 10 minutes and you'll have atleast 20 mass messages from people selling/trading items -- enjoying the economy as is.

I just said they were enjoying it (it being mediocre). In fact, what I just quoted is pretty much exactly what I said. The economy is mediocre, yet people enjoy it. Aren't you a talented individual?

salesman · #58 02-08-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

I just said they were enjoying it (it being mediocre). In fact, what I just quoted is pretty much exactly what I said. The economy is mediocre, yet people enjoy it. Aren't you a talented individual?

e:And I was simply saying your ideas would turn mediocrity into total ****

deathbarrier99 · #59 02-09-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345

I just said they were enjoying it (it being mediocre). In fact, what I just quoted is pretty much exactly what I said. The economy is mediocre, yet people enjoy it. Aren't you a talented individual?

You do nothing but come on Era's threads and insult people.

If you really have nothing b etter to do go buy a dinosaur jigsaw puzzle and then try to entertain yourself.

kia345 · #60 02-09-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by deathbarrier99

You do nothing but come on Era's threads and insult people.

If you really have nothing b etter to do go buy a dinosaur jigsaw puzzle and then try to entertain yourself.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...7&postcount=16

I came into Era's threads with not one, but three very well thought out ideas. I can't expect Era's community to read that many lines of text though, you'd probably get lost. Is that it?