Semi-transparency

gemini2 · #1 02-08-2008, 02:55 AM

I was wondering if anybody knew of a good program for applying semi-transparency to images. Anyone willing to share? :>

Stephen · #2 02-08-2008, 03:00 AM

Adobe Photoshop

Ter13 · #3 02-08-2008, 03:22 AM

Or if you can't afford photoshop, you can always use "The Gimp".

I use Photoshop on my desktop, and the Gimp on my laptop. I do most of my developing on the laptop anyway, so I tend to use the Gimp more than photoshop.

Though, the Gimp is honestly the better option for pixel art. Photoshop can be good for pixel art, but you have to muck with some settings that remove Anti-aliasing and feathering, as well as pressure. Most people can't figure out how to disable these right off the bat. The Gimp has a lower learning curve, but doing the more difficult advanced things you can do easily with photoshop are much harder in The Gimp.

<sarcasm>
Hang on, because I didn't say it enough times in that last block of text:

The Gimp
The Gimp
The Gimp
</sarcasm>

Stephen · #4 02-08-2008, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ter13

Or if you can't afford photoshop, you can always use "The Gimp".

The real question is if you can afford high speed internet - and if not that, the patience required to obtain it on anything slower.

Ter13 · #5 02-08-2008, 04:05 AM

I see what you did there. And while I have my own pirate personae on the internet, I understand that others aren't quite savvy enough to scour the Pirate Bay for kickin' lewtz. ;P

I was just tossing out a legal suggestion, even though the illegal one seems much more lucrative.

Stephen · #6 02-08-2008, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ter13

I see what you did there. And while I have my own pirate personae on the internet, I understand that others aren't quite savvy enough to scour the Pirate Bay for kickin' lewtz. ;P

I was just tossing out a legal suggestion, even though the illegal one seems much more lucrative.

Who mentioned anything about anything illegal? Don't soil my thread with your trash talk.

gemini2 · #7 02-08-2008, 04:19 AM

Seems okay. Thanks, Ter :>

Xterminator · #8 02-08-2008, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Who mentioned anything about anything illegal? Don't soil my thread with your trash talk.

Lol

kia345 · #9 02-08-2008, 01:24 PM

Paint.NET

Ter13 · #10 02-08-2008, 01:54 PM

Paint.net is another good one, but I don't like Paint.net for anything more than layered pixel work. I prefer the Gimp because of the photoshop-like layout.

cbk1994 · #11 02-08-2008, 03:44 PM

Gimp makes me want to die. As does Photoshop (less so).

I'm just weird that way.

Fireworks ftw

Ter13 · #12 02-08-2008, 03:54 PM

Never much cared for fireworks, personally. Usually, I start out in MS Paint, make a basic outline. Then I jump into Gimp/Photoshop, and do the shading using layers, that way I can easily modify the image later on.

Next, I compile a png image, and take it into Flash MX. I trace the image and make an object, with each separate bodypart on a different layer. I use MX to create new poses and animations, then take the new pose into paint and make the outline for that pose, and repeat the process of shading.

=/ I like my method, even if it is time-consuming.

Jeffyy · #13 02-08-2008, 07:00 PM

If you have windows XP without the new 2007 Microsoft office there is a program called Microsoft Photo Editor, I use that for my transparencies. :P

Tigairius · #14 02-08-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud

Gimp makes me want to die. As does Photoshop (less so).

Probably because it's too complex for your simple mind to grasp. I have no idea what I would do without Photoshop.

cbk1994 · #15 02-08-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

Probably because it's too complex for your simple mind to grasp. I have no idea what I would do without Photoshop.

I only accept insults from family and friends

Clockwork · #16 02-11-2008, 08:19 PM

Also Gemini, for further investigation. Once you get either of those programs, and ask "how?", semi-transparency is also called 'Opacity'.

trifle · #17 02-11-2008, 09:45 PM

Have in mind that graal gfx's like heads etc can't have semi-transparency on them. Just 100% or 0%

Crow · #18 02-11-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by trifle

Have in mind that graal gfx's like heads etc can't have semi-transparency on them. Just 100percent or 0percent

Wrong. Semi-transparency works on heads and all that stuff, too.

Also, how the f did you use the percent sign in your post without getting a "Bad request" error

trifle · #19 02-11-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow

Wrong. Semi-transparency works on heads and all that stuff, too.

Also, how the f did you use the percent sign in your post without getting a "Bad request" error

I have never gotten a head to be semi transparent online on graal. The only gfx's I have made semi transparent is scripted opacity objects.
And if it's possible, why has noone used that function before?

Stephen · #20 02-12-2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by trifle

And if it's possible, why has noone used that function before?

Quite simply - because everyone is too nooby. I use it frequently.

Rufus · #21 02-12-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by trifle

I have never gotten a head to be semi transparent online on graal. The only gfx's I have made semi transparent is scripted opacity objects.
And if it's possible, why has noone used that function before?

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Quite simply - because everyone is too nooby. I use it frequently.

Yeah I used it once too for a head on Classic, but it doesn't work on bodies I think.

Vimerge · #22 02-12-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

but it doesn't work on bodies I think.

It does...

Crow · #23 02-12-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vimerge

It does...

Yea, but you have to get the palette in the right order yourself, since using gif2mng to fix the image's palette will **** up the semi-transparency. Atleast it did when I tried, I'm not sure if I got the newest version.

cbk1994 · #24 02-12-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow

Yea, but you have to get the palette in the right order yourself, since using gif2mng to fix the image's palette will **** up the semi-transparency. Atleast it did when I tried, I'm not sure if I got the newest version.

Why use gif2mng anyway? Just export them as an 8-bit PNG? Pretty sure there are tutorials to do this?

Stephen · #25 02-12-2008, 10:57 PM

How you save a 24bit GIF is beyond me

cbk1994 · #26 02-12-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

How you save a 24bit GIF is beyond me

Who needs GIFs?

PNG ftw

Crow · #27 02-12-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud

Who needs GIFs?

PNG ftw

Using gif2mng with /b as paramater will fix up the palette of any image to fit the default Graal body palette.

trifle · #28 02-14-2008, 06:22 AM

This is strange.. I have never thought it would work.
I usually set the colors to index colors, witch automaticly takes away the opacity. But just saving it with RGB works...
hmm... learned something new

Kirble · #29 02-14-2008, 02:33 PM

O.O Yeah, there are two ways to set the trans. The easiest way in Adobe Photoshop is via indexed colours, the alternative shows up when you get an already transed image and put it into PS. Not sure how you do it within PS but you don't really need to when indexed colours is there