Faded Nation: What do you think about it?

[Crono]

Originally Posted by SwedishKing

Hm. If you want me to understand well, then you can talk your language, Swedish. I'm not the very best of understanding English.

Swedish isn't my language. But thats another story.

Malinko's name destroys threads.

Indeed.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Because you're ignorant of what has happened in the past, young nooblet.

Then enlighten me old soda popper. What am I ignoring? Nothing. I have been around since the Dawn of Graal practically, and I'm well educated on Malinko's past. I chose to overlook it since the guy is nice at most of the time.

We've all done things we're not so proud of, shall I begin to list all corrupt things I did when I worked on Maloria? Haha, I'd rather not - my fingers would hurt from all the typing.

[Gambet]

What are you talking about guys? Malinko's dead, remember?

[Darlene159]

Get off Malinko. This isn't about Malinko, it is about the server.
Malinko did something bad, boo hoo...get over it, and move on, and leave him alone. Stop harrassing him all over the forums.
Like you all have never done anything you aren't proud of in your life. Leave it alone.

As for the server, I think it looks pretty good. At least it is a server that the staff are putting effort into, and I wish them luck.

[NeoJenova]

I remember I had to log on Faded Nations RC when I was manager of UN and demand them remove UN from the playerworld... all of UN....

[kia345]

Originally Posted by SwedishKing

I didn't start this thread to show everyone to 'Zhow zom cOOl zCRIPTZ maDE by MALINKO.'
Read the "OT"

sir i only used malinko because you DID say 'Zhow zom cOOl zCRIPTZ maDE by MALINKO.' you treated him like hes your NAT god.



what i meant was, you HAVE skilled people, put them to use doing something different instead of this bland UN look alike.

[SwedishKing]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Get off Malinko. This isn't about Malinko, it is about the server.
Malinko did something bad, boo hoo...get over it, and move on, and leave him alone. Stop harrassing him all over the forums.
Like you all have never done anything you aren't proud of in your life. Leave it alone.

As for the server, I think it looks pretty good. At least it is a server that the staff are putting effort into, and I wish them luck.

Thanks!

[SwedishKing]

Originally Posted by NeoJenova

I remember I had to log on Faded Nations RC when I was manager of UN and demand them remove UN from the playerworld... all of UN....

=/ wtf.. When was that.

[SwedishKing]

Originally Posted by kia345

sir i only used malinko because you DID say 'Zhow zom cOOl zCRIPTZ maDE by MALINKO.' you treated him like hes your NAT god.



what i meant was, you HAVE skilled people, put them to use doing something different instead of this bland UN look alike.

In my eyes he is a NAT god. But let's stop talking about Malinko, eh?.

Why?
The Players don't like "too diffrent" servers, well maybe you? But not ALL of the players. To get a lot players, we'll have to do things that 90% of the GRAALpeople like.. instead of doing some way diffrent server that only 10% will like.
I've been around graal MAYBE not as long as you, but i know that a lot of the players still want those "basics" stuff, events, quests, jobs etc.
We're not copying Unholy Nation, for example: we will have a bunch cooler/harder jobs, quests and a awsome CS system.
It might just be the name that confuses you "Unholy Nation" and "Faded Nation". But personally i love the name :P

[Crono]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Then enlighten me old soda popper. What am I ignoring? Nothing.

Aim me sometime.

I have been around since the Dawn of Graal practically, and I'm well educated on Malinko's past. I chose to overlook it since the guy is nice at most of the time.

I was exactly like you until he ****ed me over.

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Malinko did something bad, boo hoo...get over it

Yeah, you're just as blind as anyone else here

[PrinceDark]

In my eyes he is a NAT god. But let's stop talking about Malinko, eh?.

This sounds like a love spell a girl put on me once. Malinko has worked with some pretty good scripters so if he is dishing out their work, of course he is going to look like a NAT god.

Besides those levels, are there any weapons or other features that make this server different than Unholy Nation?

[SwedishKing]

Originally Posted by PrinceDark

This sounds like a love spell a girl put on me once. Malinko has worked with some pretty good scripters so if he is dishing out their work, of course he is going to look like a NAT god.

Besides those levels, are there any weapons or other features that make this server different than Unholy Nation?

Yes, i posted some pictures of me using some weapons.

[war99k]

*bloodfarts*



Brodequin

[zim5354]

Originally Posted by SwedishKing

XD Why?
It shows that they are experienced, and don't make ****ty levels like a lot of inexperienced LATs does.

OT: Have you ever been on Faded Nation?

How long did they work there? Old UN's levels sucked ass.

Originally Posted by Gerami

Notice..."Unholy Nation" => "Faded Nation"

And notice how all the staff are ex-UN staff?

Levels are good but what will this offer that will beat UN?

Just what I was about to ask.

[eronix]

Sounds like a crapload of has-beens getting together to make another UN, sounds really boring already.

UN is a turnoff in itself, but now FN..? You're really trying to wreck graal, aren't you?

#1: Some of UN's level's aren't really "First class", so being a LAT there isn't anything amazing, or to gloat about.

#2: You have a bunch of people who WERE something on graal. YEARS AGO. I always thought it was best to have the oldbies, until I got oldbies back, and they asked me: "what is this new 'gs2'?", "hey man i forgot how to gani, help pls?"

#3: Malinkos still around? Havn't heard about him since his little whoopsy a long time ago..

[syltburk]

for what cause does my work do here, levels are deff stolen, some of those are mine, which I made ages ago... Not all of them, but if you actually check the tiling on some of the outside levels it has extremely familiar tiling style to me, which I used at start.

[ff7chocoboknight]

I went on Faded Nation maybe 3 weeks ago, and I got stuck on a black screen with my player standing in the middle of it.

[syltburk]

Originally Posted by Gerami

That detail style is awefully familiar...if only it was done slightly better.

Wan and the other that has been working with me for a very long time should recognise the obvious patterns, some of these levels are direct copies of what i've made, I can't remember for what server tho. Login on your server I can see, besides some houses almost 90% of the server, paths tiling and all the work is made by me. Some by wan.

-_-

[Vima]

Originally Posted by zim5354

How long did they work there? Old UN's levels sucked ass.



Just what I was about to ask.

FINALLLY!!, it happend something with my SwedishKing account and now i bought gold on "Vima"..
so yeh.. it took me a while to get back here :P

We were recently staff there.

I KNOW i'm comparing FN to UN all the time, because IMO Unholy Nation have been the most popular server on graal for ages now.
Maybe it has also to do with that i've been on UN for ages and want something new..

Originally Posted by eronix

Sounds like a crapload of has-beens getting together to make another UN, sounds really boring already.

UN is a turnoff in itself, but now FN..? You're really trying to wreck graal, aren't you?

#1: Some of UN's level's aren't really "First class", so being a LAT there isn't anything amazing, or to gloat about.

#2: You have a bunch of people who WERE something on graal. YEARS AGO. I always thought it was best to have the oldbies, until I got oldbies back, and they asked me: "what is this new 'gs2'?", "hey man i forgot how to gani, help pls?"

#3: Malinkos still around? Havn't heard about him since his little whoopsy a long time ago..

#1: Some of the new levels on UN are "First Class", like Isle of Bane outside levels.

#2: I don't really think LATs forget EVERYTHING on lating if they're gone for a year or so XD

#3:Yeah, about Malinko.. He have dissapeard, We have no idea why.
We are almost desperate to get a new NAT now:P

Originally Posted by syltburk

for what cause does my work do here, levels are deff stolen, some of those are mine, which I made ages ago... Not all of them, but if you actually check the tiling on some of the outside levels it has extremely familiar tiling style to me, which I used at start.

Originally Posted by syltburk

Wan and the other that has been working with me for a very long time should recognise the obvious patterns, some of these levels are direct copies of what i've made, I can't remember for what server tho. Login on your server I can see, besides some houses almost 90% of the server, paths tiling and all the work is made by me. Some by wan.

-_-

I Personally think you are just talking bull****, i really don't know who YOU are or who your friend Wan is.
Well i have read on the forum that "Wandaman" was working on some server or something.
I don't know anything more.
To make you even more sure that you are just really talking bull**** i'll tell you that i've only played Zodiac,Unholy Nation,DR while i have been leveling for years, so sorry dude.
You claimb that you "DISCOVERED" the path style or the detail style, IF you did those in 98, then you might have "DISCOVERED" it, but really..
Everyone detail that way, everyone does the paths that way.
I have seen many LATs levels in my life, i can assure you that 90% of those does that detail style. Problaby 50% does that path style.

Why am i posting this again? I want the OTHER people to get the TRUE story of this.
You stalked me on UN, talked to me like wan is some kind of God, and claimbed that i've stole your level(s).
Then when i asked you for proof(s), you replied:
"I don't need to give you proof..
We have allready talked to the Globals, they're going to check the server.
They know who Wan is."

Yeah, you also told me that people here will get pissed off and hate me, if i said i don't know who Wan is.
Well.. I have been playing graal a long time (2000-2003 2005-200?) and i don't know who Wan is, that's really the truth.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Vima

#3:Yeah, about Malinko.. He have dissapeard, We have no idea why.
We are almost desperate to get a new NAT now:P

That was a surprise?

[syltburk]

Originally Posted by Vima

blablabla.

This is why you will never get your server up, I never stated wan as a god, you simply stated that you never heard of him and I told you that he's a very good level maker.
Also I said I might talk with globals about you having others content without permission from the creators, let's see if you actually have any new material ANYTIME soon.


By the way, with your attitude you won't get close getting your server up, have fun with warpto and ban commands tho.

[Vima]

Originally Posted by syltburk

This is why you will never get your server up, I never stated wan as a god, you simply stated that you never heard of him and I told you that he's a very good level maker.
Also I said I might talk with globals about you having others content without permission from the creators, let's see if you actually have any new material ANYTIME soon.


By the way, with your attitude you won't get close getting your server up, have fun with warpto and ban commands tho.

Hmm, i can see that you was too lazy to read ALL THE POSTS made by me.
I am not the owner, i am the LAT Admin.

You never told me that he was a very good level maker, You told me that i've stole some levels from some playerworld that you don't even REMEMBER the name of.

Oh btw, i seriously don't mind that don't like Faded Nation,
People like you, who thinks they're some kind of "boss" going around threaten people. Being very very rude they shouldn't be able to play graal at all.
People like you are destroying the fun in Graal.

Oh my attitude, eh? LOL. I didn't really get the sentence:
"have fun with warpto and ban commands tho."
Does that mean that i'm a abuser now? Because i'm defending myself?
-
Oh, well if you want to do a thread about me, how my "attitude" is so bad.
Go ahead, because i don't want anymore stupid posts about me stealing some things from some server, that died years ago.
I made this forum to get feedback, if i wanted to do a thread about feedback on the staff, then i would have done it.
So no more staff posts here, thanks!

[WHIPENIE4]

those levels look familiar for some strange reason, dont know why

[WHIPENIE4]

being the explorer that I am, I have stumbled apon this playerworld called "Faded Nations" the overworld looks pretty good in my eyes, outside that is, inside....I have seen 2 insides, but obviously the server is in construction or it wouldn't be hidden, would it? the outerior is pretty good to me, I'm not a PW Reviewer or anything, not put out to be that, but I think you should start focusing on the INNER beauty of the server, meaning inside the unfilled homes! I see plenty of levels, pretty much all outdoor besides the main town, which inside levels here do look good. I don't like the name "TownMain" for a City/Town but hell its your server, you can name it whatever you want. besides a few mishaps. The Levels look good, thats all i saw, didnt see NPCs or any of that saucy stuff, but my outlook on your world in a 45 minutes view, your server has potential to be pretty decent i'd say. Thats my opinion.

On another note.

You can't really complain about the arguements started, you asked GRAAL people what they think about your server and the name yes, it really is crazy which you did create a server named Faded Nation, which all your major staff were Staff on Unholy Nation, yes you should have known you were going to get a response as such you've gotten, they only see one thing out of your server, its nothing to do with the make. its that one word. Nation which would think them to believe it'd be a rebuilt Unholy Nation. even though it might or might not turn out better, its still that.

on other news.......
ITS BED TIME....

[Vima]

Originally Posted by WHIPENIE4

being the explorer that I am, I have stumbled apon this playerworld called "Faded Nations" the overworld looks pretty good in my eyes, outside that is, inside....I have seen 2 insides, but obviously the server is in construction or it wouldn't be hidden, would it? the outerior is pretty good to me, I'm not a PW Reviewer or anything, not put out to be that, but I think you should start focusing on the INNER beauty of the server, meaning inside the unfilled homes! I see plenty of levels, pretty much all outdoor besides the main town, which inside levels here do look good. I don't like the name "TownMain" for a City/Town but hell its your server, you can name it whatever you want. besides a few mishaps. The Levels look good, thats all i saw, didnt see NPCs or any of that saucy stuff, but my outlook on your world in a 45 minutes view, your server has potential to be pretty decent i'd say. Thats my opinion.

On another note.


You can't really complain about the arguements started, you asked GRAAL people what they think about your server and the name yes, it really is crazy which you did create a server named Faded Nation, which all your major staff were Staff on Unholy Nation, yes you should have known you were going to get a response as such you've gotten, they only see one thing out of your server, its nothing to do with the make. its that one word. Nation which would think them to believe it'd be a rebuilt Unholy Nation. even though it might or might not turn out better, its still that.

on other news.......
ITS BED TIME....

Thanks, well the whole overworld-outside levels are done now which is about 280levels.
Yeah, now we're working on insidelevels and other stuff.
We do have a lot of NPCs, but they aren't "released" yet ;P
Oh.. and don't give me the credit, i'm only a Admin.
The Owner/Manager of Faded Nation is Josh.

There have been many players who have thought that Faded Nation is pretty much like Unholy Nation, Well it isn't. But i think you're crossing the line when someone is starting to threaten me..
(Even though if it did not appear in his post, he PMed me on UN)
so that's why i said what i said.

[Imperialistic]

I gotta say.. FN is a little boring at times.. and im not so sure about the inside of that one pub.. But im in love with the safari hunting system.. Even though its down.. i have hunted before a while back... Faded Nation has a real big chance.. I believe when they go hosted it will drag alot of players from UN,NP,Zodiac,and Era... if FN gets alot more things to do.. there is no doubt that this server will be highly enjoyed

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Imperialistic

UN,NP,Zodiac,and Era

So in the end, it's still a UN clone?

[Vima]

Originally Posted by kia345

So in the end, it's still a UN clone?

Haha, not really. You'll see when it's released

[DustyPorViva]

UN, N-pulse, and all the old servers were clones on Classic, what's the big deal? Just 'cause it's a clone doesn't make it any worse of a server.

[MysticalDragon]

Originally Posted by Shotoo2

Malinko's name destroys threads.

I strongly disagree with you.
Malinko has had Major issues with most of the Graal Online population, but does that lack his ability to develop? I think not.Players holding Grudges against him is what destroys the threads not his name.If some new player to the Graal Online Community wants to admire Malinko then let him do it?What does it have to do with us or his playerworld.Malinko is a good kid that has had many issues in the past, that I choose to leave in the past.

Now to the main Question, What do we (I) think of Faded Nation?

I personally Despise UN and its staff, I was NPC Admin there for a bit at one time.The server is garbage and NEVER accepts change and improvements.The only Addon they allowed me to add was that dumb Scroll thing that replaced the warp rings.So trying to BE like UN will never get you anywhere.

The screen shots look Nice and I think with Motivation this playerworld can out beat UN any day.VERY promising, keep up the work XD.Hopefully you allow changes and keep up with Graal Times .

[killerogue]

Isn't it funny how nearly ANYTHING that actually had promise, decent graphics, some good starting systems etc., dies after a month of activity. But everyone doesn't want to flock to these wonderful servers to help them get to where they deserve to be (Classic List) instead they flock to servers like Unholy Nation (trash) and...lol...Faded Nation (no comment).

There is absolutely NOTHING unique about Faded Nation.

[MysticalDragon]

Originally Posted by killerogue

Isn't it funny how nearly ANYTHING that actually had promise, decent graphics, some good starting systems etc., dies after a month of activity. But everyone doesn't want to flock to these wonderful servers to help them get to where they deserve to be (Classic List) instead they flock to servers like Unholy Nation (trash) and...lol...Faded Nation (no comment).

There is absolutely NOTHING unique about Faded Nation.

As long as they don't start 1 million different projects like some other people , they wont have an issue. Just because a classic type playerworld doesn't have all these fancy systems, Elk n Dusty type graphics doesn't mean its doomed. A good community creates a world of Joy and entertainment.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

Dusty type graphics.

:o I have my own line of graphics? Not quite my own line of clothes, but it'll do!

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

As long as they don't start 1 million different projects like some other people , they wont have an issue. Just because a classic type playerworld doesn't have all these fancy systems, Elk n Dusty type graphics doesn't mean its doomed. A good community creates a world of Joy and entertainment.

I...don't think we're quite on the same page MD :P

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

:o I have my own line of graphics? Not quite my own line of clothes, but it'll do!

DAGI

(Dusty Animations and Graphics Incorporated).

[DustyPorViva]

To be honest... it seems playerworlds did the best when they didn't try so hard to be unique, and everyone followed the 'classic-type' server. Look how many servers came from that.

[syltburk]

There wont be any levels alike the current one unless they've taken a whole playerworld from another LAT.

[Vima]

Originally Posted by killerogue

Isn't it funny how nearly ANYTHING that actually had promise, decent graphics, some good starting systems etc., dies after a month of activity. But everyone doesn't want to flock to these wonderful servers to help them get to where they deserve to be (Classic List) instead they flock to servers like Unholy Nation (trash) and...lol...Faded Nation (no comment).

There is absolutely NOTHING unique about Faded Nation.

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

To be honest... it seems playerworlds did the best when they didn't try so hard to be unique, and everyone followed the 'classic-type' server. Look how many servers came from that.

Killerouge, there are MANY things that makes Faded Nation unique.
You will have to wait untill the the server is 100% completed, to find out whats unique.

..and DustyPorViva. I say the same thing.
Servers that are "too" unique, will fail. It is really a fact.

*But let's not make a discussion of it in this thread. Lets stick to the topic :]*

[Think]

Originally Posted by killerogue

"Whatever he's written in this thread."

Learn about the concept of games, please.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

I strongly disagree with you.
Malinko has had Major issues with most of the Graal Online population, but does that lack his ability to develop? I think not.Players holding Grudges against him is what destroys the threads not his name.If some new player to the Graal Online Community wants to admire Malinko then let him do it?What does it have to do with us or his playerworld.Malinko is a good kid that has had many issues in the past, that I choose to leave in the past.

You're so totally clueless, I'm not even going to discuss this.

Good luck with this server, I guess?

[coder]

A classic themed server with modernized guns... how shockingly fluent.