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Old 05-26-2007, 10:50 PM
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Intelligent people on online games? What's that? Never heard of it.. Oh wait there was this one guy who could spell properly on that server, don't remember the name of it..
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:09 PM
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Intelligent people on online games? What's that? Never heard of it.. Oh wait there was this one guy who could spell properly on that server, don't remember the name of it..
Actually, I have met a lot of intelligent people on Graal, so that is not true.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:12 PM
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Actually, I have met a lot of intelligent people on Graal, so that is not true.
Yeah, well, so have I. Doesn't mean that 80% of everyone I meet is complete *****s though.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:57 AM
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Yeah, well, so have I. Doesn't mean that 80% of everyone I meet is complete *****s though.
Its probably because of 4chan /b/, it just sucks people in and they don't come out the same. Its probably even bad to mention.
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:55 AM
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Globals shouldn't be over burdened with this stuff, but yea, you are right.

I have been on quite a few playerworlds that I haven't seen extreme harrassment and sexual harrassment. I was not only speaking of what has been said to myself either.
If it's not important enough for them, then it's not that bad.
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Old 05-27-2007, 02:25 AM
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No, because it's easy to get something done about it. A simple alt+2 or a screenshot of your PM logs can take care of the problems.
Except that hardly anybody will accept those as "proof".
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Old 05-27-2007, 02:55 AM
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If it's not important enough for them, then it's not that bad.
Its always important enough if the player has tried to resolve it locally first and didn't get any results. But there is a chain of command, many people tend to try to bypass that chain.

The problem with pm logs and screenshots is they are too easily altered. They can be used to support your claims but can't be considered gospel truth. Supporting evidence always helps which is why often a resolution that makes everyone happy doesn't happen.
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Old 05-27-2007, 03:20 AM
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Except that hardly anybody will accept those as "proof".
GP's nowadays do I believe.
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:46 AM
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Sorry to pick on you Crono, I'm just using you as an example.

Hm...what if there was a way to tell the System NPC "Please route all messages from Gerami through you?", and then (for that connection only) it did?
Solid proof beyond the reach of the average player without unduly compromising security. I would have Gerami's words in my log either way, and could hand them to the server's staff just as easily with or without the server, but with the added certainty of "The System NPC confirms this message."

Conversely, could the System NPC run a complicated checksum code to attach to "monitored" conversations? Such as:
Gerami->Tyhm@servertime 123987896 "Yeah whatever, your mom blows goats and I intend to destroy the server." is translated to HG78j695#77*, but only the server knows the formula to translate it (sender's accountname, translated into CHR$ code, * reciever's accountname, backwards, in CHR$ code, log(servertime), then chop the message into 3-character sections, multiply the first character by 512, add it to the second * 256, add it to the third, then concatenate the message like that) forinstance. Can't translate it back, but you can confirm that that message recieved at that time would be coded that way.

This should probably live in Future Improvements.
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:38 PM
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Hmmm well the server could theoretically make a md5 checksum of the pms sent, so if someone reports a pm to an admin then it would be possible to check if that pm has really been sent.
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Old 05-28-2007, 05:31 AM
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Would it be possible for the server to automatically attach the checksum as a "signature" to every PM sent through it? Not much point if I ask the server "What's the checksum for Gerami->Tyhm@servertime right now "Yeah whatever, your mom blows goats and I intend to destroy the server."?", 'cuz it doesn't prove anything aside from when I asked for the checksum...
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Its probably because of 4chan /b/, it just sucks people in and they don't come out the same. Its probably even bad to mention.
Although you might not believe it, most people on there are a much older audience then an average Graalian. Besides, that site requires you be 18+ and almost every person in this "80%" range that Ziro is talking about is around the age of 10 - 14.
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